swadieram Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 We really missed our captain tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 It was his fault we lost ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Just now, swadieram said: We really missed our captain tonight You'll find him on the Blackburn v Derby County thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilsonram12 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 If it was keogh who gave the peno away he'd be ridiculed, all quiet with Pearce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Pearce is bang average at this level. Not the first time he's made a clumsy challenge. Shacks and keogh it should be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 By the sounds of it we didn't just miss him, we missed players who actually give a damn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Simsy said: Pearce is bang average at this level. Not the first time he's made a clumsy challenge. Shacks and keogh it should be! Shackell has had his day, was like Clod at Leeds, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Just now, CumbrianRam said: Shackell has had his day, was like Clod at Leeds, Was like a brick wall at West brom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 41 minutes ago, swadieram said: We really missed our captain tonight Hang on a minute didn't you called the captain a liability few days ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsy1884 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Pearce is a 3rd rate defender. Keogh and Shackell are the best ones at the club. This summer is a great opportunity to bring in another CB who fits the system. Pearce was signed in that inbetweeney stage after SM and before PC so not really his fault. But he is far too clumsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Hobhead Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 It was Butterfield telling them to pass sideways and back that did for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie DCFC Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I can safely say I've given up on these players and this manager after tonight. With the exception of 1 or 2, our players look disinterested and nowhere near Premier League quality. Same old +60% possession that we've seen during both spells with McClaren which never equates to anything, 16 shots and only 2 on target speaks it's own story. McClaren is tactically inept, and has no plan B when pointless passes around the back, crosses into the keepers arms and pot shots don't work out. We'll never get anywhere with this squad, I've tried to stay positive and it's just not possible after seeing the same problems season after season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobyWanKenobi Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Rawson and Keogh for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Captain my captain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loweman2 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 hour ago, swadieram said: We really missed our captain tonight We would be better if with this captain on our sinking ship !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 One thing for certain. Listening to his glowing reference to Keogh in recent interviews, as long as Mac is at the club, Keogh will be first name on team sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 11 hours ago, Jamie DCFC said: 16 shots and only 2 on target speaks it's own story...pointless passes around the back, crosses into the keepers arms and pot shots don't work out. We'll never get anywhere with this squad, I've tried to stay positive and it's just not possible after seeing the same problems season after season. So that is Macs fault is it - what miracle do you expect him to perform with those players? It's time they stood up and took the blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: So that is Macs fault is it - what miracle do you expect him to perform with those players? It's time they stood up and took the blame. So it's the players now not Pearson or McClaren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth's left foot Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 This is a bloated disjointed squad which is a result of sacking managers who had different ideas. Thorne, Martin and Fozzy in that side with another midfielder (next one on the list after Lansbury) and possibly a LW will see us playing something like 2013. SM has to be given this summer and next season to get us into the top 6 then a decision can be made then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 11 hours ago, Simsy said: Pearce is bang average at this level. Not the first time he's made a clumsy challenge. Shacks and keogh it should be! While Shackell is a little more cultured, they are probably overall about par with each other. To put it bluntly, they are limited in what they can do. That's fine I don't mean it as a criticism, Buxton was the same and many many other defenders across all leagues , but you have to able hide the weaknesses. Confidence plays a part, Buxton during 13/14 was excellent as he was brimming with it but never really reached the same consistency after. Pearce also in our good run was the same. To reach that though, you let these players do what they do well and less of not what they can't. Pearce and Shackell when they play have far too much of the ball and opposition teams let them have it, because they know they can't do too much with it. It creates apprehension that filters into other parts of the game. The other big one for me is having effective protection in front of them, Buxton had this with Eustace/Thorne and Pearce had this earlier when Johnson was there (although isn't a long term option). De Sart, for all his cultured passing, isn't offering protection like a player needs to in that role. It stops the likeliness of paces players running at them or being turned out of position. You want these defenders to concentrate on being in the right position, heading and tackling, essentially getting first to the ball. That's when these players look too billing, not when they are expected to be all rounders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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