BathRam72 Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 The thing with players like Russell is because they are pretty much involved in everything he will get noticed. Just because he didn't finish a couple of difficult shots, everyone notices and vilifies him. Some other player who puts half the effort in and misses a couple of chances goes by unoticed. I think he will flourish again soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papahet Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Can't believe this guy was a striker at Dundee, he's absolutely shocking in front of goal. He's been like this for yonks now, nothing to do with confidence he's simply crap at hitting the target. If Brighton offered anything over three million in the summer, sell and bring Ibe back for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 16 minutes ago, Papahet said: Can't believe this guy was a striker at Dundee, he's absolutely shocking in front of goal. He's been like this for yonks now, nothing to do with confidence he's simply crap at hitting the target. If Brighton offered anything over three million in the summer, sell and bring Ibe back for the season. Does Ibe score lots of goals then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Boycie said: Does Ibe score lots of goals then? In his career he has 1 more goal (11) than Johnny's terrible season last year, and almost half (5) of them were here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papahet Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, Boycie said: Does Ibe score lots of goals then? Well he scored twice as many goals in his short loan here than Russell has all season, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Just now, Papahet said: Well he scored twice as many goals in his short loan here than Russell has all season, so... 11 goals in 125 games and not scored since May last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Just now, Papahet said: Well he scored twice as many goals in his short loan here than Russell has all season, so... So you're going to compare the goal scoring exploits of a player in a very specific time period who was part of a team creating chances for fun to a player who has been having a drought in a team that has had serious attacking problems all season ? Can you not see the logical fallacy there ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tibbs Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, Papahet said: Well he scored twice as many goals in his short loan here than Russell has all season, so... That's not a fair comparison though Papa, in the same season here in a team that finished in the play offs they both pretty much had the same end product, haven't dug into assists if anyone wants to do that mind. Ibe 5 in 20, Russell 9 in 46. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 JR will.be here next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papahet Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Ibe would offer more to this team than Russell, FFS I wasn't going off goals alone. When Liverpool recalled him, we sorely missed his quality down the wing. He went past his fullback with ease, that goal at Watford was something I'd like to see Russell attempt. I admire his effort, but bloody hell i'd put in, you'd put effort it. that's his bloody job isn't it? We need that extra quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 I think some people just don't understand it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 1936 minutes this season. One goal, one assist. I love him to bits, but those stats are simply horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj9a408 Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 I think he will work well under GR. It can only get better. Especially as Gary openly admitted to trying to sing him a few times previously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyhill60 Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 If we are to make a serious effort to get into the top two next season then Russell is one of the players we need to upgrade. After 150 or so league games we know exactly what he brings to the table and he is not going to improve now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 13 minutes ago, Papahet said: Ibe would offer more to this team than Russell, FFS I wasn't going off goals alone. When Liverpool recalled him, we sorely missed his quality down the wing. He went past his fullback with ease, that goal at Watford was something I'd like to see Russell attempt. I admire his effort, but bloody hell i'd put in, you'd put effort it. that's his bloody job isn't it? We need that extra quality. I can recall many a time Jonny beating his fullback, many a time he has put in crosses for Martin to score, his strike from outside the box to score a great goal against Forest. What more do you want? Maybe for Gary to spend millions of Mel's money on a player, who might be an improvement on what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB BIGGS Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, 1of4 said: I can recall many a time Jonny beating his fullback, many a time he has put in crosses for Martin to score, his strike from outside the box to score a great goal against Forest. What more do you want? Maybe for Gary to spend millions of Mel's money on a player, who might be an improvement on what we have. ...I suspect he's missed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papahet Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 27 minutes ago, 1of4 said: I can recall many a time Jonny beating his fullback, many a time he has put in crosses for Martin to score, his strike from outside the box to score a great goal against Forest. What more do you want? Maybe for Gary to spend millions of Mel's money on a player, who might be an improvement on what we have. Like Bryson, he is living off past reputation. I'm not saying he's a bad player, but he's what? 26, 27? He should be hitting his peak now for a wide player, he's gone backwards this season massively. Bar the odd cameo performance he really hasn't done much to impress. He even said in pre season that last season he was poor: http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/derby-county-i-had-a-really-poor-season-admits-rams-forward-johnny-russell/story-29465435-detail/story.html It's the same story again this season, a few decent games here and there but other than than, pretty bang average - that's being generous If there's nobody out there who'd come in and be a upgrade, then I seriously worry about our recruitment. We should have gone for Knockeart, 2.5 million was a steal for Brighton and he is twice the player. Judge, Jota, Ibe, Mcgready, Marshall, Reach, Kightley, Dallas - All on par or if not better players than Johnny Russell. We need to find (better) alternatives to Bryson and Russell to get out this league, that's my opinion anyway. Good players in 2014, but nowadays they really aren't up to the (high) standard required to be major players in a push for promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew James Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 34 minutes ago, 1of4 said: I can recall many a time Jonny beating his fullback, many a time he has put in crosses for Martin to score, his strike from outside the box to score a great goal against Forest. What more do you want? Maybe for Gary to spend millions of Mel's money on a player, who might be an improvement on what we have. Yep. Someone who converts chances and does not waste crosses. That effort first half on Friday when he shot across the goal just lacked composure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 We need to get behind JR and give him a boost. Just lacking the confidence a goal would bring. I'm more for putting an arm round him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Love his work ethic and his character, but we need someone who can match what Ince can on the right. Wouldnt mind him as a back up on the left wing, but doesnt have the quality to be starting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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