Coneheadjohn Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 I see the chairman was in the dressing room kicking off after Saturday. I wonder how that went down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 I doubt it affected big fat sam. not quite the same as undermining a rookie manager in his first job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Le Mesmer Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Sam knows he can get Palace relegated and still walk away with a nice tidy sum. Such is the beautiful game. Once you've hoodwinked a job and signed on the dotted line then it's all down to how ambitious and driven you are as a manager for success. Unfortunately for Palace we know that Sam is only driven by greed but they knew that she they appointed him. I hope they get relegated. Fully deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted February 6, 2017 Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 1 hour ago, RamNut said: I doubt it affected big fat sam. not quite the same as undermining a rookie manager in his first job. I'm not sure.I don't disagree,I just think it could go either way. Sam might just take the cash and think f**k it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 8 hours ago, coneheadjohn said: I'm not sure.I don't disagree,I just think it could go either way. Sam might just take the cash and think f**k it? He rather proved that on video recently didn't he! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Was with Sam's backing apparently, never saw Clement complain either. Rookie or not, don't think it makes a difference, an argument could be had which is worse for both. Probably effects the fans more than it does the players and managers as they like the drama. For me it goes into the Wagner style celebration box, not something you really want to see on a regular basis but in certain circumstances it's understandable. If I was sat up in the stands paying thousands out each week and watch a performance like Palace v Sunderland, would find it hard not to go down and offer a few choice words myself. I would have been in there after Leeds. There's no rights or wrongs, everyone handles things differently in football anyhow. Do what you feel is right for your club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Mmmm. In a relegation battle, and lost 4-0 to a poor team perhaps understandable (although not in my book). Second (or third) in the table, and drawn 0-0, not understandable in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Not understandable without knowing the full circumstances I can agree to. All was not rosey behind the scenes as we later found out, whilst on the surface a 0-0 may not appear to be enough of a motive to enter the dressing room, what was going on behind the scenes in the build up. Same with Palace, that could just be a knee jerk angry reaction to an awful performance, or again something bubbling behind the scenes. You wouldn't see a jury pass a verdict without sitting through a full trial so how can fans pass judgement without knowing the full story. We do because we're football fans and know it alls (myself included) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 You wouldn't want a jury considering a crime a few minutes after it has happened either. l have no problem personally with any Chairman organising a player's meeting and saying their piece, including giving two barrels if appropriate. If we are going to play ping pong this afternoon let me know and I will put a tight pair of shorts on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 If you're trying to turn me on it's working. If the crime is long running and you are witness to it, you take to the stand. We don't know if it was just that 0-0 performamce, that's all I'm saying. I have zero knowledge as to what went on other than what's out there with why things were not rosy at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 9 minutes ago, i-Ram said: You wouldn't want a jury considering a crime a few minutes after it has happened either. l have no problem personally with any Chairman organising a player's meeting and saying their piece, including giving two barrels if appropriate. If we are going to play ping pong this afternoon let me know and I will put a tight pair of shorts on. Makes a change from pocket billiards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 I have no problem with a chairman/owner giving it both barrels to the players, just don't do it in the dressing room. As @i-Ram said, arrange a meeting, sit them down then do what you need to do. Going in the dressing room just causes internet dwellers like us to speculate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, David said: If you're trying to turn me on it's working. If the crime is long running and you are witness to it, you take to the stand. We don't know if it was just that 0-0 performamce, that's all I'm saying. I have zero knowledge as to what went on other than what's out there with why things were not rosy at the time. Oh l am sure there were other issues at that time, but let's not get this one going again. I hope Mel is happy now with his 'Derby Way'. I hope Paul Clement makes a decent fist of it at Swansea, and l hope you get that bloody denture out of your body soon. Be happy David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Sam is being paid probably an obscene amount of money to manage the team, what exactly is the chariman going to say that Sam isnt? like the players are going to just magically sit up and pay attention. All it will do is worsen any problem they currently have, if the chairman isn't confident Sam can b*****k the players after a rubbish result then he shouldn't have hired him in the first place! No need to get involved, micro management at its finest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Did he tell off Sam or the players or everyone? Either way, its not particularly indicative of a good relationship. Now, taking to twitter in the good times then trolling when the going is bad - now that's quality chairman behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 SSN reporting that palace players also called in on Sunday at 7am for a "debtrief". Bet they were looking forward to round 2 all sat eve. ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKRam Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 On 06/02/2017 at 07:19, coneheadjohn said: I see the chairman was in the dressing room kicking off after Saturday. I wonder how that went down? Kicking off after Saturday. That's what the players did too judging by the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 8 hours ago, HantsRam said: SSN reporting that palace players also called in on Sunday at 7am for a "debtrief". Bet they were looking forward to round 2 all sat eve. ..... I saw that.I bet they enjoyed that after a saturday night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 7 hours ago, coneheadjohn said: I saw that.I bet they enjoyed that after a saturday night? I bet - wonder if they were all there on time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 16 minutes ago, HantsRam said: I bet - wonder if they were all there on time I bet they came straight from the nightclub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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