David Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Cristiano Ronaldo http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38561266 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 But he's no Craig Fagin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Keogh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 5 hours ago, David said: Cristiano Ronaldo http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38561266 Well it's easy to stand out in that league tbh inho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 57 minutes ago, Boycie said: Well it's easy to stand out in that league tbh inho. Very true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Not counting Jake Buxton - Lionel Messi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 Messi is in the shadow of Ronaldo, watch Bris try and deny it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highgate Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Messi is the best player in the world. Ronaldo was in the team that won the Champions League and the Euros, the awards he got reflects this, as these awards always tend to do. Anyone who disagrees needs to watch more Barcelona and Real Madrid games IMO. Still, Ronaldo is pretty damn good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, Highgate said: Messi is the best player in the world. Ronaldo was in the team that won the Champions League and the Euros, the awards he got reflects this, as these awards always tend to do. Anyone who disagrees needs to watch more Barcelona and Real Madrid games IMO. Still, Ronaldo is pretty damn good. He's a top class accountant too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 15 hours ago, Highgate said: Messi is the best player in the world. Ronaldo was in the team that won the Champions League and the Euros, the awards he got reflects this, as these awards always tend to do. Anyone who disagrees needs to watch more Barcelona and Real Madrid games IMO. Still, Ronaldo is pretty damn good. I see your angle but when I watch the impact Ronaldo has on Portugal compared to what Messi does for Argentina there's a big difference. Messi has only ever done it one place, Ronaldo done it at 2 clubs and drove a very average international side to a trophy. Half the time Messi is playing against 9 or 10 men as well, play acting everywhere. Add to that the immense charity and goodwill gestures Ronaldo performs while Messi and his dad dodge taxes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Cristiano Ronaldo is the greatest goal scorer of all time. However, Messi is still better in every other aspect and it's not even close. Watch the impact Messi has for Barcelona in comparison to Ronaldo now. Ronaldo is just a goal scorer now, he contributes nothing else to the Real Madrid team. Messi is still the best winger, the best forward, the best number 6, best number 8, best number 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 We are lucky to see them both play. Just think that Rooney, who has had excellent career, has scored half of the goals Ronaldo has. It's just unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 On 1/10/2017 at 02:29, RadioactiveWaste said: Fagin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, Derbados said: Well, you've got to pick a pocket or two... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highgate Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 hour ago, tomsdubs said: I see your angle but when I watch the impact Ronaldo has on Portugal compared to what Messi does for Argentina there's a big difference. Messi has only ever done it one place, Ronaldo done it at 2 clubs and drove a very average international side to a trophy. Half the time Messi is playing against 9 or 10 men as well, play acting everywhere. Add to that the immense charity and goodwill gestures Ronaldo performs while Messi and his dad dodge taxes... I wouldn't for a moment argue that Ronaldo isn't a great player. He is that, without doubt. The fact that Ronaldo was transferred from one big club to another doesn't really matter as far I'm concerned, I'm not going to question a player's quality simply because they are a 'one-club' man. I think Messi won have done great things in an Alex Ferguson side too. I think you are being harsh on Messi's Argentina record, yeah they haven't won anything, but they have made it to the final of the last 3 major tournaments they've played in. Losing 2 on penalties and the other in extra time. Ronaldo obviously starred in Portugal's run to the final in the Euros, but i hardly think he can be credited for the win in the final, seeing as he went off injured after 25 mins. Not his fault of course...but you have to give some credit to the rest of the Portugal team for winning the trophy rather than giving it all to Ronaldo. Similar story in the Champions League....great all the way to the final, anonymous on the night. The charity and tax stuff has nothing to do with who is the better footballer and incidentally Messi does do a lot for charity (I guess that's easier when you are not paying enough tax!) Genuinely, I don't think people who watch LaLiga on a regular basis are in much doubt about who the better player is. I might be wrong in that, but that's my impression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highgate Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 hour ago, McLovin said: Cristiano Ronaldo is the greatest goal scorer of all time. However, Messi is still better in every other aspect and it's not even close. Watch the impact Messi has for Barcelona in comparison to Ronaldo now. Ronaldo is just a goal scorer now, he contributes nothing else to the Real Madrid team. Messi is still the best winger, the best forward, the best number 6, best number 8, best number 10. Not sure about number 6, I think he'd have to attempt a few more tackles if he's going to claim that, I'd agree with you on all the rest though. And you are right, Ronaldo is a box player now, and a brilliantly effective one. But Messi is a creator and finisher. A comparison in their passing range over the last couple of seasons would show the dramatically different contributions they are making to their respective teams at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Le Mesmer Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 17 hours ago, Highgate said: Messi is the best player in the world. Ronaldo was in the team that won the Champions League and the Euros, the awards he got reflects this, as these awards always tend to do. Anyone who disagrees needs to watch more Barcelona and Real Madrid games IMO. Still, Ronaldo is pretty damn good. Messi is the best player in the world and although I can't say he's better than other great players of similar ilk from years gone by due to obviously not having seen them play, I can say that since watching football since the Mexico 86 World Cup I have no issue with saying he is the best player I have ever seen by some considerable distance. Ronaldo is the best player this last year and the triumph for Portugal tipped it in his favour but overall there is no comparison. Messi is away and gone. Ronaldo is chasing but still miles away and behind Ronaldo are a group of players struggling to even get anywhere near Ronaldo. Ibrahimavic would be in that pack. The only criticism I have of Messi is that he has only played in Spain and whilst he still has produced the goods against a wide variety of opposition from all over europe in the CL, it would elevate him to footballing God if he say plat in the Prem and perform week in week out like he does for Barca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highgate Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Tony Le Mesmer said: The only criticism I have of Messi is that he has only played in Spain and whilst he still has produced the goods against a wide variety of opposition from all over europe in the CL, it would elevate him to footballing God if he say plat in the Prem and perform week in week out like he does for Barca. Different Leagues with different styles, so it would prove his versatility I suppose if he had torn up the Premier League like he does the Spanish. Still, i think he would, given the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 This isn't directed to you Tony but I hate reading comments like Messi hasn't done it in the prem, so what? The prem's an average league in terms of defending. If Barca rejects like Alexis Sanchez are ripping up the prem, who incidentally has a better goal scoring record in England than in Spain,why wouldn't Messi be able to? I guess the likes of Pele,Ronaldo(R9),Zidane, Maradona, Figo, Maldini,Nesta,Baresi are all a bunch of frauds because they have never done it in the great premier league. No-one ever downplays Giggs or Scholes' careers despite them not doing it in other leagues apart from the premier league(when serie A was the best in the world) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I'm sorry, but messy vs prancing coque is just not really a debate. Its clear that Chris Baird is the worlds greatest player. Dragged norn iron to a major finals, brought Fulham to life on loan and his buccaneering run!ing sometimes past the halfway line have brought the best out of Ince and bent. The podcast is delayed because the love @Srg gave him broke Dave's computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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