Millenniumram Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I'm not sure whether anyone else has already mentioned it, but I thought this was disgraceful today. From the very first minute every time the ball went out of play they spent an age before putting it back in, every sub dawdled off like they were a 70 year old granny, and at one point I'm fairly adamant one of their players feigned injury- all of which heavily disrupted our flow. It seems a very commonplace tactic nowadays when you've come to nick a point like Wigan did, but the referee has got to do more to stop it, he just let them get away with it all game then didn't even seem to add anything on in added time either! Please tell me it's not just me that god frustarted by this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I thought they gave a thoroughly professional performance. Horrible, but effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Mills Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: I'm not sure whether anyone else has already mentioned it, but I thought this was disgraceful today. From the very first minute every time the ball went out of play they spent an age before putting it back in, every sub dawdled off like they were a 70 year old granny, and at one point I'm fairly adamant one of their players feigned injury- all of which heavily disrupted our flow. It seems a very commonplace tactic nowadays when you've come to nick a point like Wigan did, but the referee has got to do more to stop it, he just let them get away with it all game then didn't even seem to add anything on in added time either! Please tell me it's not just me that god frustarted by this It's frustrating, but I disagree with one part of your post. They didn't come to nick a point! They should have won 2-0! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 Just now, Chris Mills said: It's frustrating, but I disagree with one part of your post. They didn't come to nick a point! They should have won 2-0! I said that was the plan, I think you're right they got more than they came for because our team was so complacent they nearly gifted them the win on multiple occasions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Their tactic init. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon_Grooves Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 we still werent good enough to score and win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I have to question the Bradley Johnson booking then the same thing happened on Hughes but he didn't forward roll and rolly polly 3 times but no booking to the Wigan player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck- Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 9 minutes ago, Gritters said: I have to question the Bradley Johnson booking then the same thing happened on Hughes but he didn't forward roll and rolly polly 3 times but no booking to the Wigan player. I agree - there were far worse fouls than the one Johnson got booked for. Hughes got absolutely clattered on the edge of the area, yet no booking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Le Mesmer Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Got no issue with opponents time wasting. I don't agree with it but every team does it when it suits, even Derby so I don't see why it's a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 1 hour ago, Millenniumram said: I'm not sure whether anyone else has already mentioned it, but I thought this was disgraceful today. From the very first minute every time the ball went out of play they spent an age before putting it back in, every sub dawdled off like they were a 70 year old granny, and at one point I'm fairly adamant one of their players feigned injury- all of which heavily disrupted our flow. It seems a very commonplace tactic nowadays when you've come to nick a point like Wigan did, but the referee has got to do more to stop it, he just let them get away with it all game then didn't even seem to add anything on in added time either! Please tell me it's not just me that god frustarted by this No different to how we approached the game at Wigan a month ago really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 1 hour ago, Millenniumram said: I'm not sure whether anyone else has already mentioned it, but I thought this was disgraceful today. From the very first minute every time the ball went out of play they spent an age before putting it back in, every sub dawdled off like they were a 70 year old granny, and at one point I'm fairly adamant one of their players feigned injury- all of which heavily disrupted our flow. It seems a very commonplace tactic nowadays when you've come to nick a point like Wigan did, but the referee has got to do more to stop it, he just let them get away with it all game then didn't even seem to add anything on in added time either! Please tell me it's not just me that god frustarted by this No,you are correct...clearly done to slow our play down and disrupt it as much as possible. Poor form really but how else were they not going to lose this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Le Mesmer Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I also didn't see any of our players making up the time lost by Wigan timewasting by rushing quickly to get the ball back into play from throw ins or get free kicks taken quickly. We were equally guilty of ambling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 25 minutes ago, Tony Le Mesmer said: I also didn't see any of our players making up the time lost by Wigan timewasting by rushing quickly to get the ball back into play from throw ins or get free kicks taken quickly. We were equally guilty of ambling. Indeed, but I think ours were more of a ' I can't be arsed, they're **** anyway no need to rush' attitude rather than a tactical move... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 32 minutes ago, eddie said: No different to how we approached the game at Wigan a month ago really. Oh yeah I ain't saying it's unique, it was more the point at how poorly the ref handled it, should add on more time at the end to compensate IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollycutts1982 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Can't use it as an excuse. It is frustrating. What does annoy me is a keeper can waste time consistently through the game yet only get booked in the 85th minute. Like with a lot of things nip it in the bud early on and let's play football. As much as I love Mac and enjoy the football I do find it frustrating that we still can't break teams down who sit 10 behind the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Its part of the game its a tactic and i like it, win at all costs mentality or collect points where you can. Man for man we are better than wigan. If they play us at football they will lose. They have to disrupt and destroy the game ive whinged about it for years i wish we showed more gamesmanship to see out tight games when we're 1-0 up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hope60 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Is it time for independent timekeepers. Ball to be in play for 30 minutes each half. Refs were given that instruction a few years ago but difficult to manage for the guy with the whistle. If players know they have got to play the game for 30 minutes each half whatever happens they would not bother trying to run the clock down. It happens in other sports, and imo would improve our game. Most games at present , the ball is only in play for about 24 mins each half, with can be frustrating for supporters. Opinions welcome!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I was more bored by our time wasting. wasting time going sideways and backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazloW Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 13 hours ago, hope60 said: Is it time for independent timekeepers. Ball to be in play for 30 minutes each half. Refs were given that instruction a few years ago but difficult to manage for the guy with the whistle. If players know they have got to play the game for 30 minutes each half whatever happens they would not bother trying to run the clock down. It happens in other sports, and imo would improve our game. Most games at present , the ball is only in play for about 24 mins each half, with can be frustrating for supporters. Opinions welcome!!!! I agree with this. It's part of the game and a legitimate tactic for teams who come for a point, but it makes (or contributes to) a poor spectacle. Yesterday was particularly galling as the keeper was time wasting after 60 seconds of the game. Whats annoying is that it's quite easy to sort out. You establish a set time to play a throw in or goal kick and if it takes longer than this you get booked. Simple. If that has to be managed by the fourth official or timekeeper than so be it. Start the clock once the ball is able to be played (cutting out any excuses of the crowd holding the ball or ball boys messing around with it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Its the first time this season this has been so obvious, play acting injuries added into the equasion. Very poor sportsmanship from them when they had to give us the ball back when one of their players looked like he had got hit by a bus but was just fine, then they kicked it straight at carson with some pace...you never do that, should always go to the side of the goal incase the keeper isnt ready or it catches him out... awful team, but still our job to break them down which we didnt do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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