Cam the Ram Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 So as we all know, McClaren was at the Hearts vs Rangers game last night watching Paterson, but today he told journalists he was also there to watch a number of other players. The names he specifically mentioned were: Bjorn Johnsen Jamie Walker John Souttar Callum Paterson http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/derby-county-boss-steve-mcclaren-has-revealed-he-was-watching-more-than-one-player-last-night/story-29950614-detail/story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Very odd to name names. Trying to unsettle someone? Or disguise the real target? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkeggyRam Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Just now, therealhantsram said: Very odd to name names. Trying to unsettle someone? Or disguise the real target? yeah i thought that, James Tavernier maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 5 minutes ago, therealhantsram said: Very odd to name names. Trying to unsettle someone? Or disguise the real target? 4 minutes ago, SkeggyRam said: yeah i thought that, James Tavernier maybe? Yeah SR it's C.Sammon the Hearts striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsRam1999 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Think it's more realistic that we will be looking into Paterson the right back and Johnsen the striker. However he only signed for them in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkeram7 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 The squad needs young hungry players to freshen it up! Between now and the end of August I can see alot of experienced first team players leaving because they simply aren't value for money.. pointless having a player of shackell's calibre on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/165510-derby-going-to-be-a-problem/ It is a tad disrespectful to the Jamrags for Mac to start reeling off all their players he's watching, love the kid in a pick n mix quote tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 It is an unorthodox way of doing it. Turn up in your Derby gear in an empty part of the stand so you're clear to see then reel off the names of players you're watching. Clearly trying to unsettle the players. If they know we want them, it may make it easier to get them. I wouldn't be too happy if it happened to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I like the idea of going for these players. Seeing us actually try to unearth rough diamonds is much better than going round signing established Chanpionship players with not much resale value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 1 hour ago, philmycock said: http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/165510-derby-going-to-be-a-problem/ It is a tad disrespectful to the Jamrags for Mac to start reeling off all their players he's watching, love the kid in a pick n mix quote tho LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz_The_Ram Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 17 hours ago, clarkeram7 said: The squad needs young hungry players to freshen it up! Between now and the end of August I can see alot of experienced first team players leaving because they simply aren't value for money.. pointless having a player of shackell's calibre on the bench. Yes thats right, because proven, experienced players are not an asset to any squad. It obviously makes sense to jettison Shackell's experience because Pearce has won his shirt on merit, and replace him with a lesser experienced, less rounded centre half. As you say, pointless having a player of such high calibre around. Crystal clear to me is that. Good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz_The_Ram Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 On the Hearts thing ... don't know much about any of these players, can anyone shed a little light on their track records to date? Yes, thats right ... Dad asked to be fed some stats. Wonders never cease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, Daz_The_Ram said: On the Hearts thing ... don't know much about any of these players, can anyone shed a little light on their track records to date? Yes, thats right ... Dad asked to be fed some stats. Wonders never cease. Stats that are important to their positions are a little tricky as a lot of stat tracking places don't bother with the SPL. Paterson seems to be a goal scoring full back of sorts. He has 5 goals in 15 league appearances this season, but no assists. Although he has 1 goal and 1 assist from his 1 game in the Scosh league cup. 3 yellow cards The 2 Hearts defenders I can't find much on without doing a game by game dig and this is nowhere near interesting enough a deal to warrant me doing that. Johnsen has 4 goals and 3 assists in 13 appearances (6 starts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 I have to still question our transfer policy. Steve has said In January we are looking to bring in players to cover (hearts players), not improve on the current players. Buying cover gets you the Warnocks and shottons of the world. Surely we have cover in the u21s, Vernam up front, Stabana at right back. Instead of just buying bodies, use he accumaltive fees to buy one top player, like we should have done when buying Olson, Blackman and Camara last January. More bodies in the squad just limits the chance of u21 players making the break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 12 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: I have to still question our transfer policy. Steve has said In January we are looking to bring in players to cover (hearts players), not improve on the current players. Buying cover gets you the Warnocks and shottons of the world. Surely we have cover in the u21s, Vernam up front, Stabana at right back. Instead of just buying bodies, use he accumaltive fees to buy one top player, like we should have done when buying Olson, Blackman and Camara last January. More bodies in the squad just limits the chance of u21 players making the break. Any game in which we had to use Stabana at this stage of his progress I'd suggest to you we'd struggle. I wouldn't say he's comfortable more than not in the u21s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz_The_Ram Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 10 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Buying cover gets you the Warnocks and shottons of the world. Surely we have cover in the u21s, Vernam up front, Stabana at right back. Warnock and Shotton were both more than capable. Particularly Warnock. What the hell did he do wrong other than the silly sending off on his debut? The kids will break into the side when they are ready, and if they are good enough. It isn't mandatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 I reckon this is all a clever smokescreen. Steve is attracting Newcastle and Aston Villa to his Scottish targets. Meanwhile CP is talking to Andre Gray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistaram Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 We only really need cover at right back can't see Baird playing twice a week A really good right back is Conner McLaughlin at Fleetwood watched him for NI in Euros he played every game and he's quick and strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted December 2, 2016 Author Share Posted December 2, 2016 33 minutes ago, Daz_The_Ram said: On the Hearts thing ... don't know much about any of these players, can anyone shed a little light on their track records to date? Yes, thats right ... Dad asked to be fed some stats. Wonders never cease. Haven't got stats for you but I've got the opinions of Hearts fans which should shed some light on them. This is a summary of what they're saying on their forums: Paterson: Good player but they're resigned to him leaving due to his contract expiring. They keep throwing a figure around about a guaranteed 450k regardless of when he leaves (I assume due to him being under 23). One fan suggested he's the only player of the four mentioned who could make the step up. Very good going forward, good in the air, dangerous long throw, but question marks surrounding his defending. Souttar: They're saying his value will only increase as he's still only 20. Despite his age he's been a first team regular for 3 or 4 years now with Hearts and before that Dundee United. Still a little green in areas but he's getting better with every game. Johnson: They're surprised of our interest as he's only just signed for them following a bit of a dispute over his previous contract at CSKA Sofia. 4 goals in 13 league games this season, but only 6 were starts. Walker: They seem most afraid of losing Walker and think he'd be difficult to replace. He's their top scorer and can play on the wings or behind the striker (I think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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