Sexydadbod Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Mostyn6 said: absolute madness. If he wasn't Brazilian, he'd be playing at the same level as Pearce. EDIT: you're talking about David Luiz? or are you talking about Cahill? He was talking about stones. Very harsh on Luiz. Have you seen play this season or are you basing him on his reputation? He has arguably been the buy of the season in the premier league. The three at the back suits him so well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 1 hour ago, jono said: Shackle can tackle, head and has good positional sense .. He is Mr reliable ... Pearce, on the other hand can do everything Shackle can do but with more precision. Add to that I think he is a better reader of the game, his choices of when to play a forward ball (or not) are better. He and Keogh clearly understand each other at and compliment each other's games. The final thing has to be his character ... Never a moan when out of the side, clearly a Captan when playing and with great respect for the fans. Very well summed up. It's his attitude I love as much as his footballing ability. He's forming a good partnership with RK as well - they complement each other well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, McLovin said: He was talking about stones. Very harsh on Luiz. Have you seen play this season or are you basing him on his reputation? He has arguably been the buy of the season in the premier league. The three at the back suits him so well the bloke is a maverick! He is so thick he makes Keogh look like Baresi! He's athletic and has interesting hair, but he's stealing a living, and yes, I do watch him. I'm not the type to dismiss a player without forming my own opinion. Never the buy of the season. Even if he was the only buy of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfb Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 People forget or don't know that he was Readings Captain and PoTY when they were promoted in 2012 ... so he was never a 'bad' player, just never got a break here... till now and he was free ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Has been defending as well as Shackell, but doesn't have pillows for feet, and as such can pass a ball. Attitude is spot on too. What's not to like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 47 minutes ago, nfb said: People forget or don't know that he was Readings Captain and PoTY when they were promoted in 2012 ... so he was never a 'bad' player, just never got a break here... till now and he was free ! Agreed, people wrote him off based on the performance against Portsmouth in the League Cup last year. But I can't recall anyone having a good game that night. He was just written off like Kamara, Blackman &, to a certain extent, Weimann because he was never given a run in the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 He has a great desire to wear a Derby County shirt. Why not? This is a great Club for him and he is utterly determined to take his chance. Is this attitude rubbing off on other players? I think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkeram7 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Worth noting that he always acknowledges the fans at the end of the game ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 1 minute ago, clarkeram7 said: Worth noting that he always acknowledges the fans at the end of the game ? I like him, but this doesn't mean he plays better because he waves at the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, clarkeram7 said: Worth noting that he always acknowledges the fans at the end of the game ? Welcome to dcfcfans, clarkeram7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkeram7 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: I like him, but this doesn't mean he plays better because he waves at the fans. Agreed however there is a certain honesty about him, a good leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Right. A lot of people are preaching the 'don't write players off when they're it in the side, people wasted to sell Pearce a few months ago' and then basically writing off Shackell. Shackell might be getting old but he was fantastic last season, he was absolutely solid and made Keogh play so much better. Anyone else remember him reading a free-kick on goal away at Brighton, scurrying back to the goal just in time to effectively clear it off the line? The closest defending gets to poetry in motion. He really improved our defensive organisation last year, which had been absolutely garbage at the end of 14/15, his confidence gave everyone else confidence. There's no doubt in my mind that his knowledge and experience from playing under Dyche at Burnley was half of why we bought him. Knowing how they defend set pieces etc was something we really needed at the start of last season. I think he's partly to thank for how much better the defence Mac gets to work with now is compared to when he left. However, that being said, I'm overjoyed with Pearce and happy to say he's an improvement. He's younger, yet weirdly feels just as experienced as Shackell does. I love how completely calm he is and how everything he does is just completely assured, yet he's clearly a passionate player. As many people have said, he's extremely measured with the ball, on the air and ground, and moves the ball quickly because he keeps it simple. Add to that that he's just a top bloke and completely captain material, I can see him being a massive player for us in the next few years, no matter what level we're playing that. But, I feel you have to appreciate that Pearce is benefitting from Shackell's work last year, Shackell is at least partly the reason he's been able to step into a confident, organised defence and settle in quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkeram7 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 6 hours ago, Leicester Ram said: Right. A lot of people are preaching the 'don't write players off when they're it in the side, people wasted to sell Pearce a few months ago' and then basically writing off Shackell. Shackell might be getting old but he was fantastic last season, he was absolutely solid and made Keogh play so much better. Anyone else remember him reading a free-kick on goal away at Brighton, scurrying back to the goal just in time to effectively clear it off the line? The closest defending gets to poetry in motion. He really improved our defensive organisation last year, which had been absolutely garbage at the end of 14/15, his confidence gave everyone else confidence. There's no doubt in my mind that his knowledge and experience from playing under Dyche at Burnley was half of why we bought him. Knowing how they defend set pieces etc was something we really needed at the start of last season. I think he's partly to thank for how much better the defence Mac gets to work with now is compared to when he left. However, that being said, I'm overjoyed with Pearce and happy to say he's an improvement. He's younger, yet weirdly feels just as experienced as Shackell does. I love how completely calm he is and how everything he does is just completely assured, yet he's clearly a passionate player. As many people have said, he's extremely measured with the ball, on the air and ground, and moves the ball quickly because he keeps it simple. Add to that that he's just a top bloke and completely captain material, I can see him being a massive player for us in the next few years, no matter what level we're playing that. But, I feel you have to appreciate that Pearce is benefitting from Shackell's work last year, Shackell is at least partly the reason he's been able to step into a confident, organised defence and settle in quickly. I don't think people hsve written him off. The issue I have is that he's too good to be sat on the bench, at his stage of his career he should be playing every single game particularly with how much money he is likely to be earning. That's why I'd cash in and get an up coming loan player as cover or invest the money in some young talent such as Nathan Smith at Port Vale(getting rave reviews). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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