KBB Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I like Cyrus a lot as a player. He has his faults, like every single player at this level and we all know what they are as it has been done to death on here but I noticed, as many other have, a few gems and attributes that he can provide. he is a young, attacking full back, singed for relative peanuts from a lower league club, who is under pressure to be multiple players in a single role. He is under orders to be supporting attacks, providing accurate crosses, score goals, make overlapping runs constantly, retain possession in the final third for creative players to find space, beat opposition fullback and wingers with skill and pace. That's 6 elements to his game and we haven't even mentioned the defensive side to his game which is his "bread and butter" he will not perform every single demand on him 100% all game, every game. If he did, he would be worth 50mill and playing for man city. what we have on our hands is a developing young player, who just made his 100th senior appearance. He is by no means the finished article and although 100 games is not to be sniffed at, he is still learning his trade and developing every minute he plays. what strikes me most about Cyrus is he is obviously a massive confidence player. Many people will see this as a weakness in a pro footballer, but he is a human being and we all have it in us to be nervous, anxious and apprehensive in certain situations. This was personified by his fantastic run and cross onto bents head when he had scored his goal and was full of confidence. Many times when struggling he would have simply checked back and played an easy ball to keogh so not to "make a mistake" steve Mac said that Chris Powell had worked hard with him in training during the week and I feel that as fans we can work hard with Cyrus during the game giving him support, encouragement and motivation. I'm not talking cheering his every move, but we have seen what he is capable of when flying and full of confidence. I would find it bizarre that nay fan would link the two together and believe they can have a positive impact on a player. he was brilliant on Saturday and I firmly believe with the support of a positive atmosphere both at the ground and the training ground from the fans, manager, coaching staff and fellow players we have a real potential gem on our hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Was glancing through our season stats last night and apparently he's created the most chances for us out of any player at 17, which suggests, even aside from yesterday, he's a real threat going forward. Then again Chris Baird has also got the highest pass accuracy which proves why stats don't tell the full story... Joking aside, a comprehensive performance from Cyrus, both offensively and defensively which, from McClaren's post match interview, sounds as if it's come from some specialised training with the coaches. Long may it continue because yesterday he was MotM in my eyes, Carson was thoroughly excellent and made some outstanding saves but Christie stood out even further for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamLad1884 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Get him to sign a new contract asap first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 We all know that Christie is capable of putting in performances like he did on Saturday on a regular basis. The problem with him is that when he has a **** game, he has a really **** game and looks like a league 2 player putting in 2/10 performances. The coaching staff need to bump up these 2/10 performances to at least a 5 or 6. He should look to Forsyth as inspiration for this. When Fozzy was having a rubbish game, he made sure he was mentally strong and competitive by making himself hard to beat against the opposition winger by getting touch ugly and roughing them up. In contrast, when Christie is having a poor game, nearly every winger in this league can beat him. It's all about consistency with Christie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Well said KBB. Now is the time to get behind the whole team, including 'bird' if selected. We need to reinstall that fearless confidence the players once had and that's by fully supporting the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 What I loved most Sat was the move where he was trapped on the wing in front of the west stand and he jukes a couple players then does a sweet 360 turn to beat the final man. He then tried to play a pass in rather than just having a go. But that move was yummy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 8 minutes ago, Ninos said: What I loved most Sat was the move where he was trapped on the wing in front of the west stand and he jukes a couple players then does a sweet 360 turn to beat the final man. He then tried to play a pass in rather than just having a go. But that move was yummy. Won the corner for his goal from it though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 He is highly capable but highly inconsistent if he wasn't the prem clubs would be all over us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StantonRam Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Cyrus is a Ram for sure, I've always liked him and said so before on here, he always gives his all in the shirt, always puts in a shift and can worry opposition defences, well done (again!) in retrospect to NC for spotting him and bringing him here, no wonder he's one of the first names to go on the team sheet each week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBB Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 2 hours ago, LondonRam2 said: Cyrus is a Ram for sure, I've always liked him and said so before on here, he always gives his all in the shirt, always puts in a shift and can worry opposition defences, well done (again!) in retrospect to NC for spotting him and bringing him here, no wonder he's one of the first names to go on the team sheet each week. All credit to clough for being so modest and letting Steve Mac actually sign him too....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 He gets heavily criticised for his defending, but I've lost count the number of times this season his last ditch blocks or clearances off the line have saved us a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 I think he suffers of lacks confordance i think wrongly coached by clemment and nigel pearson he looks like the player he was when he first signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 On 31 October 2016 at 13:05, McLovin said: We all know that Christie is capable of putting in performances like he did on Saturday on a regular basis. The problem with him is that when he has a **** game, he has a really **** game and looks like a league 2 player putting in 2/10 performances. The coaching staff need to bump up these 2/10 performances to at least a 5 or 6. He should look to Forsyth as inspiration for this. When Fozzy was having a rubbish game, he made sure he was mentally strong and competitive by making himself hard to beat against the opposition winger by getting touch ugly and roughing them up. In contrast, when Christie is having a poor game, nearly every winger in this league can beat him. It's all about consistency with Christie He is undoubtedly a fine athlete which means he has the attributes to cope with the rigours of attack and defence. I don't think he has the composure which would make him a Premier League player. I think he should be coached to do the simple things well. I would ask that he crosses the ball as soon as he has half a yard. It is up to the rest of the team to know he will and to bust a gut to get into the box for him. It's when he over-complicates, cutting back when in a position to cross or simply switches off that the crowd get at him and his shoulders droop. I could imagine an arm round the shoulder from CP would be helpful but where has that been for the rest of the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Anag Ram said: He is undoubtedly a fine athlete which means he has the attributes to cope with the rigours of attack and defence. I don't think he has the composure which would make him a Premier League player. I think he should be coached to do the simple things well. I would ask that he crosses the ball as soon as he has half a yard. It is up to the rest of the team to know he will and to bust a gut to get into the box for him. It's when he over-complicates, cutting back when in a position to cross or simply switches off that the crowd get at him and his shoulders droop. I could imagine an arm round the shoulder from CP would be helpful but where has that been for the rest of the season? Good post but I don't see it like that at all. He's a bit of an enigma is Christie but if I'm a premier league manager he's precisely the player you'd want to take a punt on at right back. With better players around him he could be superb. Many of his problems stem from the fact that other players don't make themselves available for him when he makes his marauding runs and he ends up cornered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRBee Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Whilst people can rightly remind us of good things he has done, we have all seen his poor decision making and lack of concentration. In the end this inconsistency, and for me consistency is a key requirement for defenders, means that he does need to be replaced. He is now 24 and to call him a 'developing player' is a misuse of the term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDerby Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 When he's good he's really good, but when he's bad it makes me want to cry, there's not a more frustrating player to watch when Cyrus is not playing well. He need's some help with consistency, whether this is Stevey Mac man managing the guy and making him think he's the best RB on the planet or really letting him know that he needs to step his game up, I'm not sure. I think he's got it pretty easy here, it's probably the only position that we don't have any really quality cover and he's probably the first on the team sheet every week and this could be knocking his performances. Even though his contact is coming to an end, I think it's pretty much nailed on he will be offered a new contract. There is better RB's out there and with Wisdom the one that I would love to see back in a Rams shirt, he's a another player that just can't cut it in the premier league and for me being just 23 (roughly the same age as Cyrus) is absolute head and shoulders above Cyrus. I never saw him perform under 8/10 in a Derby shirt. great professional. Cyrus, get some consistency in your game and you could be a great player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Interesting how one excellent game from Cyrus and we get a thread praising just how good he is. For me he's been woeful all season bar Saturday. He often not only takes 1 touch too many, that's after he has already had 5 touches too many and tried taking on three men too much. The longer a player takes to cross a ball, the easier the defence can organise themselves. Quick deliveries, instinctive deliveries are key for attacked to have space in the box. 90% of the time his crosses are appalling. 80% of the time he has normally gone from a crossing position to a none crossing position. As other posters have said, he has no competition so he will continue to get played. If he can be coached to do the simple things well and then play like he did on Saturday he will be an asset to the team. Play like he has for the rest of the season then I'd be happy to see him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 1 hour ago, rammieib said: Interesting how one excellent game from Cyrus and we get a thread praising just how good he is. For me he's been woeful all season bar Saturday. He often not only takes 1 touch too many, that's after he has already had 5 touches too many and tried taking on three men too much. The longer a player takes to cross a ball, the easier the defence can organise themselves. Quick deliveries, instinctive deliveries are key for attacked to have space in the box. 90% of the time his crosses are appalling. 80% of the time he has normally gone from a crossing position to a none crossing position. As other posters have said, he has no competition so he will continue to get played. If he can be coached to do the simple things well and then play like he did on Saturday he will be an asset to the team. Play like he has for the rest of the season then I'd be happy to see him go. I fully agree with what you point out are his faults but if he takes less touches improves his crossing and final decision you have a superstar right back on your hands. But he seriously gets little quality support in terms of good options when he streaks forward. The final product of a player you're not going to find in this league. You have to create one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 23 minutes ago, Ninos said: I fully agree with what you point out are his faults but if he takes less touches improves his crossing and final decision you have a superstar right back on your hands. But he seriously gets little quality support in terms of good options when he streaks forward. The final product of a player you're not going to find in this league. You have to create one. and isn't that the same thing with many Championship players ? If Russell had a first touch / consistent control he'd be a seriously good player ... but he hasn't. Right now from 4 games Cyrus plays 1 poor, 2 average and 1 great game .. if with the right coaching and management that can become 2 average and 2 great .. then I'd be happy.... If it becomes 1 average and 3 great .. then someone in the prem will be after him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamsPolls Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Cyrus played brilliant on saturday. If i remember correctly he did this at the start of last season, Had a poor start to the season and then had a stormer of a season after November time. Hopefully he can repeat this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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