Animal is a Ram Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Quote George Thorne is still some way of a return to first-team action, says Derby County boss Steve McClaren. Thorne has not played since he broke his leg in two places in the Rams' final Championship fixture of last season against Ipswich Town at the iPro Stadium. There had been talk of a possible mid-November return for the midfielder but when asked if there is a chance of Thorne being ready after the international break, McClaren said: "No, no, he's a way off is George. "We have what we have, and I am delighted with the attitude of the squad." Thorne has been desperately unlucky with injuries since he signed permanently for Derby in the summer of 2014. Injuries have restricted him to a total 51 appearances. http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/when-will-george-thorne-be-back-in-action-derby-county-boss-steve-mcclaren-issues-update/story-29876440-detail/story.html#1ZvWxBd8Iwcwvi5V.99 As vague as ever.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 As long Mac don't rush him back quickly like last time.. I'd be happy if Thorney back after Christmas tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgford Ram Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 2 hours ago, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: As long Mac don't rush him back quickly like last time.. I'd be happy if Thorney back after Christmas tbf. The problem is that it is starting to look like after Christmas could be 'rushing him back'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Bridgford Ram said: The problem is that it is starting to look like after Christmas could be 'rushing him back'. This. I do hope George is able to play some part this season because a footballer's body needs to remain used to the rigours of playing week in week out. Otherwise injuries will plague him forever. There are some things I don't think I'll ever forgive and one is the Iraq War, but another is the ridiculous decision to play Thorne against Ipswich. The consequences of such unbelievable stupidity have proved very grave indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 4 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: This. I do hope George is able to play some part this season because a footballer's body needs to remain used to the rigours of playing week in week out. Otherwise injuries will plague him forever. There are some things I don't think I'll ever forgive and one is the Iraq War, but another is the ridiculous decision to play Thorne against Ipswich. The consequences of such unbelievable stupidity have proved very grave indeed. A big statement there. Usually you go into the playoffs with the best possible form for momentum. It was a freak injury that had nothing to do with his knees - but a freakish bad tackle. I really honestly have completely - and selectively - forgot about him. Would be best to do the same and let him enjoy his golfing games with proper premier league players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 20 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: There are some things I don't think I'll ever forgive and one is the Iraq War, but another is the ridiculous decision to play Thorne against Ipswich. The consequences of such unbelievable stupidity have proved very grave indeed. you mention 'stupidity'? interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 30 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: This. I do hope George is able to play some part this season because a footballer's body needs to remain used to the rigours of playing week in week out. Otherwise injuries will plague him forever. There are some things I don't think I'll ever forgive and one is the Iraq War, but another is the ridiculous decision to play Thorne against Ipswich. The consequences of such unbelievable stupidity have proved very grave indeed. It wasn't the decision to play him that annoyed me, but rather that once we were still losing towards the end wassall started to rest players, while leaving arguably our most important player on the pitch and if I remember correctly I believe he left him almost as the only recognised centre mid on the pitch for a while, a sheer ludicrous decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 I agreed with the decision to play him. Resting players had not worked in that team, the need for momentum was paramount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 26 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: It wasn't the decision to play him that annoyed me, but rather that once we were still losing towards the end wassall started to rest players, while leaving arguably our most important player on the pitch and if I remember correctly I believe he left him almost as the only recognised centre mid on the pitch for a while, a sheer ludicrous decision We were going to take him off but Martin was on a booking and started looking like he was going to get sent off so he went off instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie G Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Bradley Johnson is currently doing a good job and is improving with every game. Yes George is a very very good player but this team showed for 45 minutes against wolves that they can play without him. Let's not rush him back and I for one would love to see him on the bench for 4/5 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 4 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: This. I do hope George is able to play some part this season because a footballer's body needs to remain used to the rigours of playing week in week out. Otherwise injuries will plague him forever. There are some things I don't think I'll ever forgive and one is the Iraq War, but another is the ridiculous decision to play Thorne against Ipswich. The consequences of such unbelievable stupidity have proved very grave indeed. We had all this before, I don't agree, you cannot pick a team based on hindsight or that a player may get injured. Who do you rest? Was wassall supposed to make 11 changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 6 hours ago, Mostyn6 said: you mention 'stupidity'? interesting. Stupidity indeed. I don't mind fans saying "you can just as well get injured in training" as Wassall did, because it's not their profession. However, the statistics indicate you're more than three times as likely to get injured in a match. It's shocking if our best coaches are equally ignorant. With almost nothing to play for, what was the worst that could happen? It was George Thorne who we had no back up for getting injured. So it was clearly stupid to risk him when he would have benefited from a rest before the playoff games to come againt Hull. Would we have lost 0-3 in the first leg in the team if a rested George Thorne had played? Of course not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robglosta Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 6 hours ago, Gypsy Ram said: A big statement there. Usually you go into the playoffs with the best possible form for momentum. It was a freak injury that had nothing to do with his knees - but a freakish bad tackle. I really honestly have completely - and selectively - forgot about him. Would be best to do the same and let him enjoy his golfing games with proper premier league players. Exactly this, treat any pitch minutes in the future as an added bonus. At the rate he's going, he'll be back for a Barkeresque 92nd minute curtain closer against Burton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 38 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: However, the statistics indicate you're more than three times as likely to get injured in a match what statistics? You haven't quoted the legend/group/genre. You're more than three times likely to get injured if what?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 17 hours ago, Mostyn6 said: what statistics? You haven't quoted the legend/group/genre. You're more than three times likely to get injured if what?? For instance: "Soccer players are more than three times more likely to be injured in a game (16.9 injuries per 1,000 athlete exposures) than in practice (5.1 injuries per 1,000 athlete exposures)." taken from https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/NCAA_M_Soccer_Injuries_WEB.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 22 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: For instance: "Soccer players are more than three times more likely to be injured in a game (16.9 injuries per 1,000 athlete exposures) than in practice (5.1 injuries per 1,000 athlete exposures)." taken from https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/NCAA_M_Soccer_Injuries_WEB.pdf hang the f on, so basically he should retire from playing? ALL 11 players are 3 times more likely to get injured, so what's your beef? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladram Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 27 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: For instance: "Soccer players are more than three times more likely to be injured in a game (16.9 injuries per 1,000 athlete exposures) than in practice (5.1 injuries per 1,000 athlete exposures)." taken from https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/NCAA_M_Soccer_Injuries_WEB.pdf If an "exposure" is a training session or match and they train 4 times a week and play a match once, aren't they more likely to be injured in training? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Hobhead Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 From what I can gather, he'll do well to play a part this season. Numerous setbacks. Such a shame as he's massively talented. But some players have bodies that don't cope well with the rigours of regular sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, Warren Hobhead said: From what I can gather, he'll do well to play a part this season. Numerous setbacks. Such a shame as he's massively talented. But some players have bodies that don't cope well with the rigours of Mick McCarthy's ideas of what constitutes a fair challenge. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irobinson Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 I was more cheesed off when Charlie George dislocated his shoulder in 1976 Rams were on for the double that season!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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