RoyMac5 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Muskination said: Not knocking Mel in the slightest but now you mention it, what "outside influences" can an effective owner be affected by to see him appoint three managers and two stand in managers in just over a year of ownership. It wasn't working, who cares how many. It's stupid and/or stubborn to stick with the wrong man. Where's PC now? We'll see with Pearson but god knows what football would be like if we stuck with him. What's the problem? Oh yeah *everyone* is laughing at us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 12 minutes ago, Muskination said: Not knocking Mel in the slightest but now you mention it, what "outside influences" can an effective owner be affected by to see him appoint three managers and two stand in managers in just over a year of ownership. Paul clement was his first appointment and was sacked because he was not following the business plan mm set out and PC AGREED to in the interviews. Pearson left due to his behaviour MCclaren was appointed because of the previous incident Where's the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskination Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 13 minutes ago, mwram1973 said: Paul clement was his first appointment and was sacked because he was not following the business plan mm set out and PC AGREED to in the interviews. Pearson left due to his behaviour MCclaren was appointed because of the previous incident Where's the problem? Nope, no problem that we make Massimo Cellino look like an amateur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 10 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said: I'd disagree, I think Clough built the spirit in the squad to a large extent but was not capable of of getting the best football out on the pitch, that spirit slowly writhing in our second season under him was dramatic when the chips were down. I would say he had us all believing anything was possible, which is different, and something Clough could never have done. That's kind of how I see it, but i could be wrong. That's a fair comment. The turnaround was so fast that there was clearly some sort of cohesion there, but our performances pre-McClaren in 2013 did not resemble any sign of us being able to reach the level we did. So it's not impossible for this squad to reach that level, or higher, even if we currently look incapable of being able to do so with very little cohesion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 14 minutes ago, Muskination said: Nope, no problem that we make Massimo Cellino look like an amateur. You've swung for mwram but missed and punched yourself in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskination Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 minute ago, cannable said: You've swung for mwram but missed and punched yourself in the face. Don't drink and type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 14 minutes ago, Muskination said: Nope, no problem that we make Massimo Cellino look like an amateur. Again, Why??? Are you saying Pearson should have been allowed to do what he did to his boss then? Are you saying Clement shouldn't have gone for not following the plan he agreed to follow in his interviews? If you did either of those things in your place of work you would be out the door. Why is MM any different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Muskination said: Don't drink and type. Re-read what you put… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskination Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 minute ago, cannable said: Re-read what you put… How old are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskination Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, mwram1973 said: Again, Why??? Are you saying Pearson should have been allowed to do what he did to his boss then? Are you saying Clement shouldn't have gone for not following the plan he agreed to follow in his interviews? If you did either of those things in your place of work you would be out the door. Why is MM any different? Who employed them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, Muskination said: How old are you? Twenty Are you coming on to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskination Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 minute ago, cannable said: Twenty I doubt that if you cannot grasp a simple ironic pejorative in a manner which has entered the common vernacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth's left foot Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Muskination said: Not knocking Mel in the slightest but now you mention it, what "outside influences" can an effective owner be affected by to see him appoint three managers and two stand in managers in just over a year of ownership. Mostyn has explained the stand in manager reasons, I'm sure you know what PC was up to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 6 minutes ago, Muskination said: Who employed them? Are you serious?? Grow up, if you haven't got a legitimate argument, stop posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdave85 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 26 minutes ago, Muskination said: Nope, no problem that we make Massimo Cellino look like an amateur. Now who's delusional? We may have had a bit of a managerial go-round but all have been reasoned away by other posters and I'm not going to repeat them. MM is far and away a better owner and we're lucky to have him, with the gift of hindsight I'm sure he wouldn't have made some decisions, same for anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskination Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just now, mwram1973 said: Are you serious?? Grow up, if you haven't got a legitimate argument, stop posting. No answer eh? Thought not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Muskination said: I doubt that if you cannot grasp a simple ironic pejorative in a manner which has entered the common vernacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just now, Muskination said: No answer eh? Thought not. The answer is obvious, your arguments are childish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 how much actual support has Cielinho given any of his managers? BY comparison to MM, none. MM is bound to expect better from his managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskination Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, Seth's left foot said: Mostyn has explained the stand in manager reasons, I'm sure you know what PC was up to... As a side note, you really think you know 10% of went down there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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