Statham512 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Surely a defenders primary role is to defend and on that basis he's better than Christie IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo jones Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Better than Christie for me, would love him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Wisdoms defensive strength allowed Forsyth to attack, part of the reason we were so successful under McLaren. Signing wisdom would be a massive step up, although I would suggest that with Norwich having been relegated but don't appear interested in signing him, maybe he wasn't all that good in the prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, Statham512 said: Surely a defenders primary role is to defend and on that basis he's better than Christie IMO A defender's primary role is to do whatever his manager asks him to do… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Statham512 said: Surely a defenders primary role is to defend and on that basis he's better than Christie IMO Christie makes twice as many tacklers per game as Wisdom did; Christie makes twice as many interceptions per game as Wisdom did; Christie makes the same amount of clearances per game as Wisdom did; Sure, Christie commits more fouls per game (1 for CC as oppose to 0.6 for AW) and gets dribbled past more often (0.6 pg for CC, 0.3 pg for AW) but with every other defensive stat very similar I'd make the case Christie is better for us defensively than Wisdom was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBB Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Wisdom has major plus points, but does have limitations. I think he would be a fantastic signing and is very solid at this level. plus points stength - rarely gets out muscled recovery speed - good at covering the cbs good in the air - useful if clubs hit the long diagonal. consistent - you know what you are getting with him nearly every game brave and solid in the tackle - rarely looses a duel. negative points positioning and concentration - a couple of times he played people onside by switching of and letting people make runs off him, especially on a long ball. flair and creativity - doesn't offer as much as Cyrus going forward final ball - like Cyrus, this can be brilliant or go straight out of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram a lamb a ding dong Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Another player who will end up at Newcastle or Villa???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, SaintRam said: Christie makes twice as many tacklers per game as Wisdom did; Christie makes twice as many interceptions per game as Wisdom did; Christie makes the same amount of clearances per game as Wisdom did; Sure, Christie commits more fouls per game (1 for CC as oppose to 0.6 for AW) and gets dribbled past more often (0.6 pg for CC, 0.3 pg for AW) but with every other defensive stat very similar I'd make the case Christie is better for us defensively than Wisdom was. Wisdom made a tackle 82% of the time when taken on compared to Christie's 80.5%, so again, not much in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Would be a great signing. I love Christie's stylish long runs up the wing be his defending at times is sphincter loosening. I would view as direct competition and a different style of right back to Christie rather than a simple replacement/upgrade. Just a bit gutting we won't get Wisdom/Fozzy (if it happens). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 47 minutes ago, David said: Picture take in the passenger seat, who was driving.....? Couldn't have been Andre, he tends to prefer the back roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I wouldn't pay more than £2.5-3m. He has the same agent company as the following players... Raul Albentosa, Adam Smith and Darren Bent out of interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, cannable said: Wisdom made a tackle 82% of the time when taken on compared to Christie's 80.5%, so again, not much in it. I know! It amazes me how different everyone's opinion is of the two then their defensive stats are so similar (most are in Christie's favour) and Christie's offensive stats are so much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramdale Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Wisdom did well for us and is no doubt a very good player at this level. That being said, if we are only going to sign 1 or 2 players, I would be disappointed if we brought in a Right Back. Not saying Christie is better than Wisdom, but he is a young player who has made huge strides over the last 12 months. He was very good the 2nd half of last season and I wouldn't be ready to give up on him now when we have greater needs. Top class striker for me and a wide player with quality and end product. No chance of getting him but knockeart would be absolutely ideal. I see judge is signing for Newcastle. Not sure how long he is out, but top player with real quality at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcfcrams89 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I rate Christie, he's a cracking player. But given a choice of Christie or wisdom, there's only 1 winner. Wisdom so much better for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierry Ennui Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 20 minutes ago, Derbados said: Wisom was frightening when he got forward, I forget who it was against but he ran the entire right flank at the speed of a gazelle and produced an absolute worldie of a cross straight into Martins path, it was sublime. That was his only assist. "Frightening". Christie is far better in attack. I was a big fan of Wisdom but he was a defender through and through. That season Forsyth was in great form and one of our most important players. Wisdom's discipline allowed him to attack more or less at will as an extra midfielder. There's no point having Wisdom at right back unless we have a left back of Forsyth 2013/14 quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Would love to play 3 at the back with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 Looks like Forest are interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 27 minutes ago, Derbados said: Wisdom is twice the player Chrstie will ever be. Fast, intelligent, strong as an ox! Wisom was frightening when he got forward, I forget who it was against but he ran the entire right flank at the speed of a gazelle and produced an absolute worldie of a cross straight into Martins path, it was sublime. i'd have him back here in a heartbeat! Top quality player. He parks where we wwwaaaaannntttssssss Barnsley away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickram Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I wonder if this was the Andre that caused so much controversy over the weekend ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irobinson Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, rynny said: Barnsley away. thats what we want - pace power and a cross!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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