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2 minutes ago, The 1884 Group said:

I saw a bloke smack his dog so hard it yelped this morning. It crossed the road before it should have and almost got run over, the owner's response was to hit it when they were both safely on the other side.

I started to walk over to have a little chat about picking on someone his own size but a bus driver beat me to it sadly.

Glad to see I wasn't the only one disgusted by him.

I understand that a dog has to know who the boss is but a raised voice and an aggressive move without any contact would have had the same result. 

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As a dog owner myself, I have to admit it is a red line for me. Cruelty to animals (especially dogs) makes me angry in a way most other things dont. 

Training a dog is simple, it just involves patience and lots of rewards.

The bloke hit the dog after it had crossed the road, stayed and sat as commanded. It then received a painful smack. All that idiot has done is tell the dog that if you sit and stay I will smack you. Won't be encouraged to do it again next time.

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On ‎16‎/‎08‎/‎2016 at 14:29, The 1884 Group said:

As a dog owner myself, I have to admit it is a red line for me. Cruelty to animals (especially dogs) makes me angry in a way most other things dont. 

Training a dog is simple, it just involves patience and lots of rewards.

The bloke hit the dog after it had crossed the road, stayed and sat as commanded. It then received a painful smack. All that idiot has done is tell the dog that if you sit and stay I will smack you. Won't be encouraged to do it again next time.

I've worked with rescue dogs for the past 15 years. The funniest things are when owners are telling their dogs to sit when they've only just got them and actually expecting it to happen. As if somehow dogs have an innate grasp of the English language. Another is when potential dog owners say sit and force their bum down with their hand. If these are the same types of people who are having kids then this country is screwed. :D

Basic training is just that, yet it's too basic it seems for a hell of lot of dog owners.

For a lot of people it's inexperience and I can understand that and they just want to learn which is good but you get the ones, "I've had dogs all my life blah blah blah" and you can't tell them owt.

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45 minutes ago, Tony Le Mesmer said:

I've worked with rescue dogs for the past 15 years. The funniest things are when owners are telling their dogs to sit when they've only just got them and actually expecting it to happen. As if somehow dogs have an innate grasp of the English language. Another is when potential dog owners say sit and force their bum down with their hand. If these are the same types of people who are having kids then this country is screwed. :D

Basic training is just that, yet it's too basic it seems for a hell of lot of dog owners.

For a lot of people it's inexperience and I can understand that and they just want to learn which is good but you get the ones, "I've had dogs all my life blah blah blah" and you can't tell them owt.

Good man. I've been volunteering at my local shelter in Burbank for the last few years. 

Also, obscure partridge reference as your name. New favorite poster :wub:

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6 hours ago, Tony Le Mesmer said:

I've worked with rescue dogs for the past 15 years. The funniest things are when owners are telling their dogs to sit when they've only just got them and actually expecting it to happen. As if somehow dogs have an innate grasp of the English language. Another is when potential dog owners say sit and force their bum down with their hand. If these are the same types of people who are having kids then this country is screwed. :D

Basic training is just that, yet it's too basic it seems for a hell of lot of dog owners.

For a lot of people it's inexperience and I can understand that and they just want to learn which is good but you get the ones, "I've had dogs all my life blah blah blah" and you can't tell them owt.

My dog is a rescue dog, been attacked by dogs off leads, was never socialised so she has issues with other dogs, yet even she has learned commands like sit, wait, off, paw, roll over, etc.

Just don't understand how people can be cruel to animals, I don't think anything else gets me as angry as quickly as animal cruelty does.

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8 hours ago, Tony Le Mesmer said:

I've worked with rescue dogs for the past 15 years. The funniest things are when owners are telling their dogs to sit when they've only just got them and actually expecting it to happen. As if somehow dogs have an innate grasp of the English language. Another is when potential dog owners say sit and force their bum down with their hand. If these are the same types of people who are having kids then this country is screwed. :D

Basic training is just that, yet it's too basic it seems for a hell of lot of dog owners.

For a lot of people it's inexperience and I can understand that and they just want to learn which is good but you get the ones, "I've had dogs all my life blah blah blah" and you can't tell them owt.

I dont own a dog, but i do know a dog takes a lot of patience to train. I think a lot of people today are of the mindset they want everything instantly, so they want to go and buy a cuddly puppy but they want it to follow commands and be house trained almost immediately.

I also get annoyed with dogs let off their leads, i do like dogs, but i dont want its wet/muddy paws all over me because the owner thinks they have it under their control, when if they did it would go back to them when they shouted it. Likewise i dont want the dog running amok through my picnic, which did happen to us earlier this year.

 

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1 hour ago, The 1884 Group said:

My dog is a rescue dog, been attacked by dogs off leads, was never socialised so she has issues with other dogs, yet even she has learned commands like sit, wait, off, paw, roll over, etc.

Just don't understand how people can be cruel to animals, I don't think anything else gets me as angry as quickly as animal cruelty does.

Its about control, the dogs may not even intend to attack but if your dog is timid it may not know that. I dont mind dogs off leads if they behave themselves. I always remember the 'old bloke' who lived near us when i was young and he walked his dog off the lead everyday, it walked ahead of him then stopped and waited for him, would sit and wait at the side of the road. I remember when he got a new puppy watching him and he would at that time had the dog on the lead but when it came to crossing the road he wouldnt let it cross until it had sat down under his command and waited for so long.

I dare bet if he was still alive he could teach a few dog owners a thing or two.

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On 8/13/2016 at 17:37, King Kevin said:

A few years ago I was driving through Newark and saw this guy on a bike dragging a dog behind him .The lead was that short the poor dogs neck was being stretched.

I pulled in in front of him and told him to get off and walk with the dog, and I would drive round the block a few times to make sure he did .Also if he failed to comply he would be tied to the back of my car to see how it felt . 

Animals and children are so reliant on adults I absolutely detest any form of abuse ,bullying of the worst sort.

Where can I buy a King Kevin t shirt?

 

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5 hours ago, WhiteHorseRam said:

Where can I buy a King Kevin t shirt?

 

Try the sale rack in the Newcastle United Club Shop.

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Don't know if anyone has seen the tragic pictures of the cob with it's neck broken and left to die next to fly tip rubbish in Shirebrook?

First of all the story itself is heartbreaking and a despicable act.

Second is the slating of the RSPCA by ill informed members of the public regarding the welfare of the horse.

Apparently the RSPCA inspectors that cover that area were made aware of the horse and it's condition but they were tied up with another emergency so were unable to attend.

They passed the details onto a vet and the police to investigate however for some reason the horse was still not seen until the RSPCA eventually got round to attending the following morning.

Can I just inform these absolute knobs of people that go round up in arms about animal cruelty on social media of a few facts.

The RSPCA is a charity. When did they last donate? A charity means that they aren't the police. They aren't the fire service and they aren't the army. If an inspector has to gain access to private land, a house, lock up or any private property then they need a police warrant and a policeman with them. They have no legal power to gain entry anywhere.

At any one time Derbyshire will have an inspector and one, possibly 2 collection officers covering the ENTIRE REGION. So if a bloke rings in a complaint from Dronfield in Derbyshire, just outside Sheffield and the inspector is involved in an incident in Swadlincote then how is he expected to deal with two things at once you idiots?!

This isn't Derbyshire constabulary who can despatch response vans from anywhere in the county willy nilly. It's literally one bloke in a van. Often an inspector may be drafted in from another area, say West Mids or Notts to assist but then that leaves that county pretty much with no cover.

There's not some magical mystery portakabin somewhere with hundreds of inspectors all sat round drinking tea until a call comes in and they all jump down firemens poles like on Ghostbusters. Christ almighty.

It's a one man band for the county.

I would hazard a guess that the RSPCA representatives that evening embroiled in a traumatic rescue somewhere else were fully aware that in a field miles away there was a dying animal in distress that they simply couldn't get too.

Hoe do you think that made THEM feel all you keyboard serial moaners?! If you felt bad then I dare say they felt a hundred times worse so get a grip. Stop moaning , get an understanding of things before mouthing off on pathetic social media and maybe get off your arses and go and help out at an animal centre or horse sanctuary.

All moan and no action. "Stick the kettle on duck, there's a story on the internet I'm particularly annoyed about and some people i need to have a go at from the comfort of my sofa so I'm going to post my ill informed, ignorant response to make me feel like I care and have contributed".

Help out or shut up!!

 

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5 hours ago, Tony Le Mesmer said:

Don't know if anyone has seen the tragic pictures of the cob with it's neck broken and left to die next to fly tip rubbish in Shirebrook?

First of all the story itself is heartbreaking and a despicable act.

Second is the slating of the RSPCA by ill informed members of the public regarding the welfare of the horse.

Apparently the RSPCA inspectors that cover that area were made aware of the horse and it's condition but they were tied up with another emergency so were unable to attend.

They passed the details onto a vet and the police to investigate however for some reason the horse was still not seen until the RSPCA eventually got round to attending the following morning.

Can I just inform these absolute knobs of people that go round up in arms about animal cruelty on social media of a few facts.

The RSPCA is a charity. When did they last donate? A charity means that they aren't the police. They aren't the fire service and they aren't the army. If an inspector has to gain access to private land, a house, lock up or any private property then they need a police warrant and a policeman with them. They have no legal power to gain entry anywhere.

At any one time Derbyshire will have an inspector and one, possibly 2 collection officers covering the ENTIRE REGION. So if a bloke rings in a complaint from Dronfield in Derbyshire, just outside Sheffield and the inspector is involved in an incident in Swadlincote then how is he expected to deal with two things at once you idiots?!

This isn't Derbyshire constabulary who can despatch response vans from anywhere in the county willy nilly. It's literally one bloke in a van. Often an inspector may be drafted in from another area, say West Mids or Notts to assist but then that leaves that county pretty much with no cover.

There's not some magical mystery portakabin somewhere with hundreds of inspectors all sat round drinking tea until a call comes in and they all jump down firemens poles like on Ghostbusters. Christ almighty.

It's a one man band for the county.

I would hazard a guess that the RSPCA representatives that evening embroiled in a traumatic rescue somewhere else were fully aware that in a field miles away there was a dying animal in distress that they simply couldn't get too.

Hoe do you think that made THEM feel all you keyboard serial moaners?! If you felt bad then I dare say they felt a hundred times worse so get a grip. Stop moaning , get an understanding of things before mouthing off on pathetic social media and maybe get off your arses and go and help out at an animal centre or horse sanctuary.

All moan and no action. "Stick the kettle on duck, there's a story on the internet I'm particularly annoyed about and some people i need to have a go at from the comfort of my sofa so I'm going to post my ill informed, ignorant response to make me feel like I care and have contributed".

Help out or shut up!!

 

Excellent post deserves a double like ?

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6 hours ago, Tony Le Mesmer said:

Don't know if anyone has seen the tragic pictures of the cob with it's neck broken and left to die next to fly tip rubbish in Shirebrook?

First of all the story itself is heartbreaking and a despicable act.

Second is the slating of the RSPCA by ill informed members of the public regarding the welfare of the horse.

Apparently the RSPCA inspectors that cover that area were made aware of the horse and it's condition but they were tied up with another emergency so were unable to attend.

They passed the details onto a vet and the police to investigate however for some reason the horse was still not seen until the RSPCA eventually got round to attending the following morning.

Can I just inform these absolute knobs of people that go round up in arms about animal cruelty on social media of a few facts.

The RSPCA is a charity. When did they last donate? A charity means that they aren't the police. They aren't the fire service and they aren't the army. If an inspector has to gain access to private land, a house, lock up or any private property then they need a police warrant and a policeman with them. They have no legal power to gain entry anywhere.

At any one time Derbyshire will have an inspector and one, possibly 2 collection officers covering the ENTIRE REGION. So if a bloke rings in a complaint from Dronfield in Derbyshire, just outside Sheffield and the inspector is involved in an incident in Swadlincote then how is he expected to deal with two things at once you idiots?!

This isn't Derbyshire constabulary who can despatch response vans from anywhere in the county willy nilly. It's literally one bloke in a van. Often an inspector may be drafted in from another area, say West Mids or Notts to assist but then that leaves that county pretty much with no cover.

There's not some magical mystery portakabin somewhere with hundreds of inspectors all sat round drinking tea until a call comes in and they all jump down firemens poles like on Ghostbusters. Christ almighty.

It's a one man band for the county.

I would hazard a guess that the RSPCA representatives that evening embroiled in a traumatic rescue somewhere else were fully aware that in a field miles away there was a dying animal in distress that they simply couldn't get too.

Hoe do you think that made THEM feel all you keyboard serial moaners?! If you felt bad then I dare say they felt a hundred times worse so get a grip. Stop moaning , get an understanding of things before mouthing off on pathetic social media and maybe get off your arses and go and help out at an animal centre or horse sanctuary.

All moan and no action. "Stick the kettle on duck, there's a story on the internet I'm particularly annoyed about and some people i need to have a go at from the comfort of my sofa so I'm going to post my ill informed, ignorant response to make me feel like I care and have contributed".

Help out or shut up!!

 

I believe they're known as "slacktivists".

Slacktivism can be defined as the act of showing support for a cause but only truly being beneficial to the egos of people participating in this so-called activism. The acts tend to require minimal personal effort from the slacktivist.

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7 hours ago, Tony Le Mesmer said:

Don't know if anyone has seen the tragic pictures of the cob with it's neck broken and left to die next to fly tip rubbish in Shirebrook?

First of all the story itself is heartbreaking and a despicable act.

Second is the slating of the RSPCA by ill informed members of the public regarding the welfare of the horse.

Apparently the RSPCA inspectors that cover that area were made aware of the horse and it's condition but they were tied up with another emergency so were unable to attend.

They passed the details onto a vet and the police to investigate however for some reason the horse was still not seen until the RSPCA eventually got round to attending the following morning.

Can I just inform these absolute knobs of people that go round up in arms about animal cruelty on social media of a few facts.

The RSPCA is a charity. When did they last donate? A charity means that they aren't the police. They aren't the fire service and they aren't the army. If an inspector has to gain access to private land, a house, lock up or any private property then they need a police warrant and a policeman with them. They have no legal power to gain entry anywhere.

At any one time Derbyshire will have an inspector and one, possibly 2 collection officers covering the ENTIRE REGION. So if a bloke rings in a complaint from Dronfield in Derbyshire, just outside Sheffield and the inspector is involved in an incident in Swadlincote then how is he expected to deal with two things at once you idiots?!

This isn't Derbyshire constabulary who can despatch response vans from anywhere in the county willy nilly. It's literally one bloke in a van. Often an inspector may be drafted in from another area, say West Mids or Notts to assist but then that leaves that county pretty much with no cover.

There's not some magical mystery portakabin somewhere with hundreds of inspectors all sat round drinking tea until a call comes in and they all jump down firemens poles like on Ghostbusters. Christ almighty.

It's a one man band for the county.

I would hazard a guess that the RSPCA representatives that evening embroiled in a traumatic rescue somewhere else were fully aware that in a field miles away there was a dying animal in distress that they simply couldn't get too.

Hoe do you think that made THEM feel all you keyboard serial moaners?! If you felt bad then I dare say they felt a hundred times worse so get a grip. Stop moaning , get an understanding of things before mouthing off on pathetic social media and maybe get off your arses and go and help out at an animal centre or horse sanctuary.

All moan and no action. "Stick the kettle on duck, there's a story on the internet I'm particularly annoyed about and some people i need to have a go at from the comfort of my sofa so I'm going to post my ill informed, ignorant response to make me feel like I care and have contributed".

Help out or shut up!!

 

There at least 3 or 4 bloody excellent points within this post and I'm not really an animal person to be fair, so a truly fantastic piece. Very considered and persuasive. My undoubted; undisputed post of the year. 

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1 hour ago, Ewetube said:

I believe they're known as "slacktivists".

Slacktivism can be defined as the act of showing support for a cause but only truly being beneficial to the egos of people participating in this so-called activism. The acts tend to require minimal personal effort from the slacktivist.

I like that, 'Slacktivist' it shall go along side 'Slackbladders' who I mainly work with.

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2 minutes ago, Tony Le Mesmer said:

It was a rant and a half Chester so I do apologise to all. Just wound me up reading about it in the press and all these 'concerned' members of the public sticking in their two penneth worth.

Slacktivists indeed. Never heard that phrase but it's accurate.

It was very considered pal, agreed with every word. Struck a chord as well cos I'm reading an interesting book by Jon Ronson at the moment. All about how the masses via Twitter etc,  are jumping on minor transgressions and wrecking lives - happily using mob justice to destroy people and ignoring their own part in an infinitely more heinous crime than the original mistake. 

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1 hour ago, Ewetube said:

I believe they're known as "slacktivists".

Slacktivism can be defined as the act of showing support for a cause but only truly being beneficial to the egos of people participating in this so-called activism. The acts tend to require minimal personal effort from the slacktivist.

I've started a petition to outlaw slacktivism. Please follow the link to sign and like this post to show your support. You can also donate to my justgiving by following the hyperlink below and together we can ensure that slacktivism is a thing of the past.

https://www.justbegging.com/fundraising/slacktivinception

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