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Universal Income

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22 hours ago, StivePesley said:

I struggle to see full automation. Everything we have at work that is automated has a team of people checking it is working properly and then fixing it when it goes wrong :lol:

I think the philosopher's stone is AI. Get a computer that can do elementary independent thinking and the sky is the limit.

The first ones will be ZX81s.

Eventually they'll be PS4s. 

Then they'll start developing themselves - and that's the next quantum leap in human evolution. If we've not nuked ourselves out of existence, or made the planet unfit for life.

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17 hours ago, McRamFan said:

Develop an 'auto grid' where a massive grid is under the road and a computer controls the cars, when you go off grid manual control returns.

The cars could run on 'tracks' and also be really long so multiple people could ride on the same unit. They could go really fast as nothing else would be in the way. It would be like a mass transport network that would mean the need for polluting cars would be hugely reduced. It should be made free/cheap to use so the nation would be inter-connected for everyone. We could call it trains.

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17 hours ago, McRamFan said:

Develop an 'auto grid' where a massive grid is under the road and a computer controls the cars, when you go off grid manual control returns.

will this be rolled out with that 4G everybody keeps talking about :ph34r:

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18 hours ago, StivePesley said:

That's before you even get onto the ethics of how you program them to crash in the event of an unavoidable accident. Do you program them to kill the passengers or the pedestrians?

My son's Computer Science A level course discussed this last week:

The driverless car is programmed to protect the occupants of the car - it identifies a situation where it is about to collide with an out of control lorry that would almost certainly result in the death of its passengers - however, it could swerve off the road to avoid the lorry, but that would result in it running into a group of schoolkids on the pavement - what does it do? - they couldn't agree on a definitive answer because they couldn't quantify the value of the lives involved nor work out how the car would be able to determine the 'value' of the people in the car - what, for example, if the car contained a mother with her newly-born twins and the person on the pavement was holding a gun (or vice-versa)?

Driverless cars only work within the parameters of their programming - and that will typically be scuppered by random events (such as cars driven by people) - a completely driverless road system would be great, but the transition where both driven and driverless cars co-exist is a scary thought

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14 hours ago, GboroRam said:

Then they'll start developing themselves - and that's the next quantum leap in human evolution.

Ah the technological singularity! A lot of people are utterly convinced that this will happen. Me, I'm still undecided. I think we have the key to stop it happening, but that doesn't mean we will use it.

One thing is for sure, when we are no longer the most intelligent species on the planet we're screwed

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Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Hashtags, reality tv, Hosting the Olympics at cost of billions when our key services are understaffed and underfunded, Rylan, McDonalds, Politicians, people phoning 999 to say that their telly is on the blink and STILL aren't immediately removed from society, exhausting fossil fuels, concreting the earth, once flourishing oceans filled with chemicals, Keith lemon, Jeremy Clarkson, prisons full because people are so unbelievably stupid or evil, a pesticide and chemical riddled food chain, greed, forest supporters, Simon Cowell and spin offs producing incessant manufactured and heavily marketed pop rubbish that for some reason people buy, BBC Radio 1, people who drink carling, 70mph speed limits on a 4 lane motorway, VAT, big game hunters, Stan collymore, Chief execs of public funded charities on about 100k a year with company car whilst frontline workers get minimum wage and an Easter egg every year as a bonus, Freddie Flintoff.

 

Just a few reasons why humans will never be the most intelligent species on the planet.

The list is endless.

 

 

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Alright Billy Joel :)

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lets be honest a lot of tech that was promised to be mainstream failed to deliver.

Google Glass = Bombed

3DTV = Bombed

IWatch = Bombed ( Apple love to tell you about sales figures and this bad boy was kept hush)

IPhone 7 = Bombed :ph34r:

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Another interesting article on Universal Income today in the Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/feb/26/rutger-bregman-utopia-for-realists-interview-universal-basic-income

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“I think the big problem on the left,” says Bregman, “is that it only knows what it’s against. So it’s against austerity, against the establishment, against homophobia, against racism. I’m not saying I’m not against those things, but I think you should be for something. You need to have a new vision of where you want to go.”

Bregman has a vision. And it’s a pretty clear one. But, wait a second. Universal benefit, a 15-hour working week, open borders, really? How?

“I’ve heard for three years that many of my ideas are unrealistic and unreasonable and that we can’t afford them,” he says, by way of preamble to a more comprehensive reply. “And the simple answer is ‘Oh, you want to stick to the status quo? How’s that been working out?’”

 

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