loweman2 Posted May 14, 2016 Author Share Posted May 14, 2016 7 minutes ago, GboroRam said: I disagree about Thorne being what went wrong. Passing was poor throuout the team, not enough urgency. I thought Butterfield showed some interest when he came on and there was a visible difference between him and the rest of the team in terms of trying to pick up the pace. Hughes was ineffective, one of the rare occasions when that happens. I think everyone underperformed - Thorne wouldn't have fixed that. I agree GbR, I wasn't saying that thorne would have fixed it, I was saying that his style of foot on the ball and look for a telling pass was what was missing, our passing and distribution was awful, his replacement was Johnson and I thought that he seemed to be overlooked by the rest of the midfield almost as if his colleagues had no confidence in him, he was bypassed that is the point that I was trying to make but not very clearly and by midfield not working it had a big knock on effect on ince and Russell and Martin not being able to get involved, the whole performance today was shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheltenhamRam Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 We were where we at 2: standout thing was not bringing Bent on earlier And to fans who cheers Johnson off, and clapped at our first effort on target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 Ram Raider Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Leeds Ram said: We sacked clement and replaced him with wassall If we'd of stuck with Clement we wouldn't even be in the play offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 18 minutes ago, CheltenhamRam said: And to fans who cheers Johnson off, and clapped at our first effort on target This is just nonsense. The players were crap all over the pitch, they got the elbow and bottled it. Aimless long balls, misplaced passes, very few tackles not a lot of running 1 shot on target up to 80 minutes - yeah those ******* mardy fans again! Edit: and a utterly clueless manager playing Hughes at DM and not changing things sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Leeds Ram said: We sacked clement and replaced him with wassall This isn't a defence of Wassall, but Clement was utter crap. He is the one who signed the majority of the underachievers. Apart from Shackell, Carson, and Olsson I'd happily send every single one of them packing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 What went most wrong was the reaction to going a goal down. Been OK until that, not great, but OK. After that the team crumbled. The second was unlucky, but the third was unforgivable. After all that, two goals and we'd still have a remote chance of putting it right. Third goal was game over. And Steve Bruce still has a face like an AR se. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 One thing that hasn't been mentioned is Martin's lack of work rate. There were several occasions where Martin failed to close down a defender who was carrying the ball, leaving Bryson to bust a gut to get at them, the Hull player would then simp play the ball in to the space Bryson left leaving a gaping hole in our midfield. Don't really want to make this a slagging off Martin post and it's not the sole reason why we lost, but it was frustrating to watch him ambling around, whilst teams mates were trying to cover players he was actually closer too. On the attacking side of his game, I'm not going to be to critical as he had very little to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loweman2 Posted May 14, 2016 Author Share Posted May 14, 2016 2 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said: And Steve Bruce still has a face like an AR se. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayram Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Hull played superbly, learned lessons from the previous two games and never let us settle on the ball. They seemed to double or treble up on our front players at times and always seemed to find time and space when they were on the ball . We were just lumping hopeful balls up the field that never achieved anything, and stuck our most creative player in a holding role. We were second best all game apart from the first 15 minutes and we've been shown up for what we are; the poorest team in the top six, and one that doesn't deserve promotion. As I've said elsewhere on here, my overriding emotion is one of relief that this poxy season is almost at an end and we will be spared the heartache of being turned over at Wembley. We now have all summer to get a new manager in and clear the deadwood from the squad, with a view to making a proper fist of it next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestKentRam Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Huge cross field passes asking a lot of players to knock down. Martin played often played out wide and if he won one of these balls then no-one central for him to pass or cross to. Wing play too predictable, so defenders doubling up stopped any progress. No other way to get forward. Next pass also predicable, too slow, and telegraphed. Loads of head tennis. Wanting to pass it into the goal with unsuccessful flicks and lay-offs, with seeming fear to shoot any other way. Set pieces failed to clear first man, or over hit. No change of tactics, crowd got onto players' backs with the worsening display, realisation that potential has not been realised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StockholmRam Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 2 hours ago, 1977 Ram Raider said: If we'd of stuck with Clement we wouldn't even be in the play offs. We certainly wouldn't have conceded these types of goals under him. Of that I'm certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonbridgeram Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Johnson? First goal his fault. And he's playing like a spare part all the time. Why start with him? He's no good (for us and right now). Of course there are many problems but firstly picking Johnson to start?! A liability all the time he's on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 5 hours ago, Leeds Ram said: We sacked clement and replaced him with wassall We appointed CLement instead of Warburton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 I might be in a minority, but I didn't have a problem with Hughes holding, because if Johnson had been holding hull would have known he'll let they them in with a poor touch or pass or just running past him. When it was clear how, let's be generous, unfit, Johnson was, Butterfield should have been on. Or started. I know we missed Hughes further up but at least Butterfield can find a team mate. I only wish we'd have had GT fit. Or ambling around on crutches even, they could be a new innovation because a crutch wouldn't be handball..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 We sacked one novice coach and replaced him with another novice coach with even less experience. When will we ever learn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 All of our assumptions about Hull were proven false. We were never able to buzz around their hulking and slow midfielders mainly because their front players pressed and pressed well. Everything we tried seemed so half hearted. Our decision making was rank even when we looked to be creating for a period before their first. Our coaching team completely failed to identify the issues as they unravelled in front of them. Let's not forget that hull hadn't really troubled us until Bradley gave them the ball. We crumbled away very easily. Gut wrenching disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Jason Shackell bottled a 50/50 and cost us the first goal. 2nd goal was a flukey deflection. Our final touch was poor all game, the quality players who you expect to be able to perform for the big games failed to do it. Hughes is not effective when playing deep. Bradley Johnson is not effective when playing. We'd of probably won this game with John Eustace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 38 minutes ago, londonbridgeram said: Johnson? First goal his fault. And he's playing like a spare part all the time. Why start with him? He's no good (for us and right now). Of course there are many problems but firstly picking Johnson to start?! A liability all the time he's on the pitch. Think that is harsh as his last game was against Hull and he was very good. I can see the thinking behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 What went wrong...£25m question. I do not like looking for blame, as the players, management, staff and owners should know what degree they are responsible for this capitulation. Its a team effort, and the end product is a result of not just training and tactics. It is so much more to it than that in modern football (to its detriment imho). The whole set up needs to take a long hard look at itself, as it is pretty evident we are missing any guile, tanasity or plain old mean ugly toughness. Both in mental and physical measures, and no its not about knocking the opposition on its arse. Somewhat deflated, however not surprised. I feel that we are 90% there, just missing a part that noone can quite work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Tom ince is one of my favourite players when he's on form but the boy doesnt like to head it. He's never going to win a 50/50 in the air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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