North_Stand_Ram Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Was the decision to sack Clement a correct one? And how does your opinion now compared with your opinion on the day of the sacking? I'd say on the day of the sacking, I agreed with sacking Clement, but not with the appointment of Wassall.. Now with the use of the beautiful hindsight, I'd say that the decision with appoint Wassall (w/ Redknapp) was justified, as rushing to appoint a manager, who may have not been our first choice, may have not been in the best interest of the club in the medium/long term. (If I knew how to use a poll I would have, I'm just dim) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryram Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Defiantly the correct decision, maybe we should have got arry in from the moment Wassal was appointed to help out. Never know maybe the top two would still have been still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 At the time I thought the sacking was very harsh, we were a Johnny Russell lift over the keeper from winning at Fulham, and he'd bought Bryson back to score the opener. In hindsight, reading what I have on here it was probably the right decision, I certainly don't think we'd have made the play offs as comfortably with him in charge, if at all. I still think Mel going into the dressing room completely lost the squad to Clement, but maybe that just accelerated the decline, rather than us fading away slowly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Yes, and exactly the same. There should be sausages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Definitely the right decision, for me. We've scored 25 goals in 14 games and we've scored three or more goals in five of our last 14 games. We're not as solid at the back, as we were conceding less than a goal a game under clement, but we're entertaining again. It's more about what we do than what we can do to the opposition, once again. I know it's going to go unnoticed, but we've got a greater than 50% win percentage under Wassall too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagerbob Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Stop trying to credit Redknapp for players needing time to get used to a new system for Thorne to get fit and stay fit, and Bryson to get up to match fitness. thankyou that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 1 hour ago, jagerbob said: Stop trying to credit Redknapp for players needing time to get used to a new system for Thorne to get fit and stay fit, and Bryson to get up to match fitness. thankyou that is all. Good old arry was in a win-win situation....if we do well he can grin his foul smug little smashed up bulldog face and say "i just tweeked it a lickle ear n dare, ja know treacle"...and if we bombed he could have just walked away with another wheelbarrow full of cash for Rosie to bury somewhere on the Sandbanks.... tosspot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 The bottom line is that it was painful to go to the games and watch. At least we are watching Derby County play now, and not some sort of training ground practice of possession football with no end product and no flair. Then anyone who makes Chris Baird captain, followed by Warnock and then Martin, really should not be coaching any sport at any level, never mind football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 3 hours ago, MuespachRam said: Good old arry was in a win-win situation....if we do well he can grin his foul smug little smashed up bulldog face and say "i just tweeked it a lickle ear n dare, ja know treacle"...and if we bombed he could have just walked away with another wheelbarrow full of cash for Rosie to bury somewhere on the Sandbanks.... tosspot. Every point achieved must feel like another red-hot knife thrust into you. A pity really, because most of us are enjoying it, but it's eating you away with bitterness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 No hindsight required for me, what was being served up was very poor to watch under clement with a very good squad at his disposal - Wassall was given a bit of a task as no one really wanted him when other established managers seem to be available but he has done the obvious really - firstly he gave the captains armband to somebody who was going to play every week in the team.Then he settled on a pattern of play and put in people who can play it followed with the obvious energy over the pitch we look like a team to be feared again! Has he made mistakes for sure but he seems to learn (Rotherham away) and most importantly the players seem happy and part of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete2 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 We were 5th when clem was sacked and we are still 5th. But we had been 1st and then he was sacked in the middle of a sticky patch. Quite why we hit that patch I don't know but I have heard of some player unrest and it turned out Mel wasn't happy. It was a surprise when he was sacked after only a few months , whether it will turn out to be the right decision time will tell. Leeds probably thought they made the right decision to sack Brian Clough , but it turns out they were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 44 minutes ago, PistoldPete2 said: We were 5th when clem was sacked and we are still 5th. But we had been 1st and then he was sacked in the middle of a sticky patch. Quite why we hit that patch I don't know but I have heard of some player unrest and it turned out Mel wasn't happy. It was a surprise when he was sacked after only a few months , whether it will turn out to be the right decision time will tell. Leeds probably thought they made the right decision to sack Brian Clough , but it turns out they were wrong. I'm not sure I'd say we hit 'a sticky patch'. If anything, we had a good patch for a few months where we over-achieved, and then we dropped back to getting the results our performances deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Nowt to do with any of em Bryson's back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Hindsight and poll in same thread would be awesome! I was suprised to see Clement getting sack, but got no strong feelings about it. And I thought Wassall with his positivity could be what we are missing. Actually, why even bother using hindsight? Just be correct from the start... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Who knows. We may have turned it around at MK Dons and went on another unbeaten run challenging for the autos now. Beat MK Dons, Rotherham, QPR and you're on 85 points. I think we can say the decision hasn't hurt us despite all the toys thrown, it would be arrogant to think we should have finished top 2 with the money spent. Hard to deny the football hasn't been more entertaining now we've welcomed back the defensive mistakes, a solid back 4 and 80% possession does nothing for me. Saying that, who knows, things may have improved. For me, the sacking was still harsh regardless of how this season ends up. 30 games simply isn't enough to be sacked for the style of football. Anyhow right or wrong, credit to Daz Waz for coming in and taking us over the line, 57% win ratio isn't to be sniffed at regardless of the opposition, difficult to see how you couldn't give the job to him now and hopefully a new deal for 'Arry, even if he's done nothing something has changed, could just be our lucky charm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Sacking Clement was the right move, I believe the real mistake was made in the summer. Should have appointed Warburton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Personally i think its a bit harsh to generalise ALL the play under Paul Clement as "boring, possession obsessed, side to side" or whatever. We served up Wolves at home, Hull away plus Brizzle at home under PC which seem to be consistently quoted/viewed as being among our best performances this season. quite why we were unable to maintain those standards is beyond me however.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, HantsRam said: We served up Wolves at home, Hull away plus Brizzle at home under PC which seem to be consistently quoted/viewed as being among our best performances this season. No arguing about Wolves at home, but Hull away we scored 2 goals largely against the run of play and then defended for an hour (with Hull missing 4 big chances as well) and Bristol City at home we were absolutely awful, only a bit of magic from Ince, a goalkeeping howler and then City completely giving up gave us a big win. If we're picking good Clement performances then Brentford at home was better, but like Wolves, they were badly out of form at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valleyram Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 its a fickle business , if Will and Bryso hadn't got injured first game of the season , I think we would probably be top of the league and Clement would be favourite to be next England manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRBee Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Don't believe we know everything about Clement's sacking - not a conspiracy theory here, just that the act contradicted Morris's previous intentions and its not that our form had been bad enough for that long. Personally I didn't want Clement in the first place and didn't want Wassall either. Wassall has made mistakes but have to say that now he is making the right team selection, playing players in best positions etc, he has turned things round. Thought he made two big calls on Saturday and got them right. Playing Hughes not Hanson when Thorne was ill and making the final two substitutions which saved a point for us. Most important the quality of play is much better than we have seen since the first half of 2014/15 season. Wassall has to be given credit for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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