eddie Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Saturday, 16 April The Valley, 3:00 pm kickoff. Charlton Athletic are clinging to Championship survival at the moment, but with most of the teams just outside the drop zone picking up points regularly enough to the extent that they are dsappearing over the horizon, it looks a forlorn hope. Derby cannot apply the coup de grace next week and relegate them with mathematical certainty, but they can go a long way towards pulling the last straw away from the drowning man. The name of Charlton Athletic is inexorably linked with Derby County of course, and that link is due to the sides meeting in the first post-war FA Cup Final. Students of the game will not need telling, of course, of the momentous events that day - first of all the ball burst. There was something else as well which temporarily escapes me - of yes, of course, I remember. A dog stopped play. Charlton are a schizophrenic bunch, seemingly unable to make up their minds as to what their nickname is. Known variously as the Addicks, the Robins or the Valiants, they have also had more grounds than Forest have managers in a typical season - eight including their ground-share with Crystal Paralysis at Selhurst Park. Their current home, The Valley, was the venue for The Who's concert in 1976 which earned them the title of "The loudest band in the world" at 126 dB, until either Manowar or Motorhead beat it. The Valley also used to have the largest single terrace (The East Terrace) in England, and on one occasion a coat pocket-watering 75,031 packed into the ground for an FA Cup tie against Aston Vanilla, but these days a more modest 15,000 is a typical attendance, many of whom are hostile to owner Roland Duchatelet, a Belgian gentleman whose hobby is collecting football clubs. A couple of other things - Keith Peacock of Charlton Athletic was the first-ever substitute to come on in a Football League game, and of course Bert Turner scored for both sides in the aforementioned 1946 FA Cup Final. A similar result would be welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Are you in that photo Eddie ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 8 minutes ago, EastHertsRam said: Are you in that photo Eddie ? No (it's a video), but my mum and granny both worked at the Midland Hotel. Derby's players stayed there for a few nights in the build-up to the final so the manager could keep an eye on them. So much for that theory - Jackie Stamps and Reg Harrison were family friends, and the ladies did their bit for club morale by allowing the players to sneak out of the kitchen the back way so they could go and have a couple of beers at the Brunny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Another away day for me... As a aside, not seen us win away all season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 1 hour ago, eddie said: Saturday, 16 April The Valley, 3:00 pm kickoff. Charlton Athletic are clinging to Championship survival at the moment, but with most of the teams just outside the drop zone picking up points regularly enough to the extent that they are dsappearing over the horizon, it looks a forlorn hope. Derby cannot apply the coup de grace next week and relegate them with mathematical certainty, but they can go a long way towards pulling the last straw away from the drowning man. The name of Charlton Athletic is inexorably linked with Derby County of course, and that link is due to the sides meeting in the first post-war FA Cup Final. Students of the game will not need telling, of course, of the momentous events that day - first of all the ball burst. There was something else as well which temporarily escapes me - of yes, of course, I remember. A dog stopped play. Charlton are a schizophrenic bunch, seemingly unable to make up their minds as to what their nickname is. Known variously as the Addicks, the Robins or the Valiants, they have also had more grounds than Forest have managers in a typical season - eight including their ground-share with Crystal Paralysis at Selhurst Park. Their current home, The Valley, was the venue for The Who's concert in 1976 which earned them the title of "The loudest band in the world" at 126 dB, until either Manowar or Motorhead beat it. The Valley also used to have the largest single terrace (The East Terrace) in England, and on one occasion a coat pocket-watering 75,031 packed into the ground for an FA Cup tie against Aston Vanilla, but these days a more modest 15,000 is a typical attendance, many of whom are hostile to owner Roland Duchatelet, a Belgian gentleman whose hobby is collecting football clubs. A couple of other things - Keith Peacock of Charlton Athletic was the first-ever substitute to come on in a Football League game, and of course Bert Turner scored for both sides in the aforementioned 1946 FA Cup Final. A similar result would be welcome. Verily goude writting, Edddie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinkletoes Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 we will lose heavily wassal is a clown and the players know it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doodle Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 10 hours ago, eddie said: No (it's a video), but my mum and granny both worked at the Midland Hotel. Derby's players stayed there for a few nights in the build-up to the final so the manager could keep an eye on them. So much for that theory - Jackie Stamps and Reg Harrison were family friends, and the ladies did their bit for club morale by allowing the players to sneak out of the kitchen the back way so they could go and have a couple of beers at the Brunny. Wow thats a claim to fame. Your granny let a couple of players use the back entrance on the eve of the cup final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Doodle said: Wow thats a claim to fame. Your granny let a couple of players use the back entrance on the eve of the cup final. Yes, I thought when I wrote it that it was open to misinterpretation, and people might have erroneously assumed that I was referring to a door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 20 hours ago, Mafiabob said: Another away day for me... As a aside, not seen us win away all season Well stay at home then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 17 hours ago, twinkletoes said: we will lose heavily wassal is a clown and the players know it If that was meant to be funny then ha bloody ha! If not, then there's more clowns around than we originally might have thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbob Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 10 hours ago, eddie said: Yes, I thought when I wrote it that it was open to misinterpretation, and people might have erroneously assumed that I was referring to a door. I remember who your granny was now. Very accommodating lady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 I'm expecting at least 4 goals. Otherwise @eddie has to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admira Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Despite their lowly position. I don't think this will be a pushover as Charlton's form isn't that bad. They lost late on Saturday and that was only their 2nd defeat in 7 games. They've won their last two home games against Boro and Birmingham and also beat in-form Brentford away recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 I think we should take our newly imbued confidence and style at home and do the same thing away from the Ipro. We are always better in open games, it suits our style. Why is it that teams want to change strategy when away. ? If we can demolish Hull at home then there is no reason why we can't do the same to Charlton. We have the players and the confidence. Promises to be an interesting game. Fascinating how a decent lead at half time seem to lubricate the machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 So which pub is everyone going to? Antigallican or Rose of Denmark? Both on Woolwich Road by the way. Both away friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 We cannot take this for granted, I expect Charlton to put up a fight but we should have enough to overcome them, let's see, but I expect a win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Most important game of the season so far. if we can turn up with the same style of play as the last two games then we may indeed have turned the corner. If we can win the next two and then beat Sheffield Wednesday then we are in the Play Offs. If we can get ahead of Hull that would be brilliant. 4th plays 5th with 4th at home in the second leg. Then winner plays the winner of of 3rd versus 6th. i do not fancy Boro or Burnley in the Final. Brighton in the Final would give us a 40:60 chance of winning. A winning Butterfield goal against the run of play would do for me. Pipe dreams? Probably. COY Unpredictable R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 We will be in the play offs, we are now playing for two things position and form. I think the current top two will go up and the other 4, Brighton, Hull, Weds and the Rams will be in the play off ( not rocket science). Not bothered who we play, we just need to keep momentum. If pushed would least like Hull, always comes back to haunt when you beat a good team home and away. So position and form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 We beat Brighton four times when we went to Wembley last time. finishing 4th or 5th is now the target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 There is no team to fear .. We have everything we need to get to the Prem .. The only issue is form, self belief and the right attitude from kick off to final whistle. I really don't care who we get (assuming we don't implode in the next few games and do actually get a play off place ) my fear is that something unknowable takes our horns away and we stop buzzing as we have in the last 2 games. its going to be sweet if we do it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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