Cisse Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Maria Sharapova announced that she got caught of using doping. Another one bites to dust. Given her age she might have played her last match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Perhaps we should just invent a new sport for her, involving bending over in a short skirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisse Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 Just now, RamNut said: Perhaps we should just invent a new sport for her, involving bending over in a short skirt. She could compete with Anna Kournikova in doubles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I'd let her off. she's going to take testosterone to compete with venus williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Well. I won't miss the shrieking, just the legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisse Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Phoenix said: Well. I won't miss the shrieking, just the legs. I doubt that she stops the photoshoots. So you should be covered on the legs part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, Cisse said: I doubt that she stops the photoshoots. So you should be covered on the legs part. Every cloud has a silver lining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 A case that simply shows the absurdity of drug rules in athletics, which of course are equally absurd in everyday life. Sharapova took a "drug" for a decade to control a risk of diabetes. On January 1st this year someone somewhere decided this particular drug should be moved onto the banned list. Sharapova claims she didn't open the email so missed the announcement. I get ~100 emails a day and maybe open 10-20 of them. I hate to think how many she receives. Apparently there's a potential year's ban. If the medication was legitimate for the ten years previously, it presumably isn't anything that had mega impact on performance or else everyone would have been taking it. The whole thing is a nonsense. Every athlete takes supplements of one kind or another and some of them are deemed legal while others aren't. And then some were once legal and then the rules change. It's totally random and not at all rational. Society is totally screwed up over the issue. In the US it;s called the FDA standing for "Food and Drug Administration" because every single thing we put into our bodies is a drug, ie chemical, of one kind or another. Caffeine is a drug, sugar is a drug, chocolate is a drug, heroin is a drug, alcohol is a drug, cocaine is a drug (that used to be in coca cola but isn't anymore), goose fat is a drug. The two most harmful "drugs" are generally considered to be alcohol and heroin. One is allowed; the other isn't. I remember watching Seb Coe in my growing up, getting specialist scientific help from the Sports Science unit at Loughborough, training hooked up to myriad machines surrounded by many specialists. Why was that scientific help allowed when most athletes in the world didn't have access to it? Surely it gave him an unfair advantage? But if someone used a different scientific technique such as blood doping or taking a steroid, they were banned... In society, everything should be legal and taxable. In sport, the only way to make it a level playing field is to legalize everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarboroughwa Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Hmph. Thought this was going to be a hidden web cam 'caught'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 3 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: A case that simply shows the absurdity of drug rules in athletics, which of course are equally absurd in everyday life. Sharapova took a "drug" for a decade to control a risk of diabetes. On January 1st this year someone somewhere decided this particular drug should be moved onto the banned list. Sharapova claims she didn't open the email so missed the announcement. I get ~100 emails a day and maybe open 10-20 of them. I hate to think how many she receives. Apparently there's a potential year's ban. If the medication was legitimate for the ten years previously, it presumably isn't anything that had mega impact on performance or else everyone would have been taking it. The whole thing is a nonsense. Every athlete takes supplements of one kind or another and some of them are deemed legal while others aren't. And then some were once legal and then the rules change. It's totally random and not at all rational. Society is totally screwed up over the issue. In the US it;s called the FDA standing for "Food and Drug Administration" because every single thing we put into our bodies is a drug, ie chemical, of one kind or another. Caffeine is a drug, sugar is a drug, chocolate is a drug, heroin is a drug, alcohol is a drug, cocaine is a drug (that used to be in coca cola but isn't anymore), goose fat is a drug. The two most harmful "drugs" are generally considered to be alcohol and heroin. One is allowed; the other isn't. I remember watching Seb Coe in my growing up, getting specialist scientific help from the Sports Science unit at Loughborough, training hooked up to myriad machines surrounded by many specialists. Why was that scientific help allowed when most athletes in the world didn't have access to it? Surely it gave him an unfair advantage? But if someone used a different scientific technique such as blood doping or taking a steroid, they were banned... In society, everything should be legal and taxable. In sport, the only way to make it a level playing field is to legalize everything. I get she may have missed it. But she will have a number of people working for her im sure, and someone will have responsibility to ensure they are upto date with things like this. I cant imagine it was only communicated 1st jan, notice would surely have given. If not then its a dangerous approach, especially if someone takes it because of a potential serious medical condition. There has to be a suitable period of notice to allow that person to source alternative, legal, medication. Of course the diabetes could just be a smoke screen devised to defend the taking of the drug all this time. Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisse Posted March 8, 2016 Author Share Posted March 8, 2016 The drug in case is used to strenghten the athletes durability. Also a Russian ice skater got caught using the same drug in January. It's a very common drug in sports. In these Russian cases what probably happened is that they used the drug in December and it still showed in early January although they expected it wouldn't show anymore. I don't buy the explanation that these athlete didn't know that the drug had become illegal. The athletes I know carry around the list of illegal drugs with them all the time in case they need medication for anything because the list includes so many common drugs for pain, allergies etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 4 hours ago, Paul71 said: I get she may have missed it. But she will have a number of people working for her im sure, and someone will have responsibility to ensure they are upto date with things like this. I cant imagine it was only communicated 1st jan, notice would surely have given. If not then its a dangerous approach, especially if someone takes it because of a potential serious medical condition. There has to be a suitable period of notice to allow that person to source alternative, legal, medication. Of course the diabetes could just be a smoke screen devised to defend the taking of the drug all this time. Who knows. You don't need to defend the taking of a drug that's perfectly legal for the decade it's been used. While it is entirely her responsibility to pay attention to the ban list, I imagine these updates to the ban list every year or lengthy and very rarely include anything honest athletes use. Especially if the only drug you're on has been legal for a decade (and apparently does very little to enhance performance - the stamina and recovery boost is fairly slight - based on word of mouth from someone who knows more than I do), you wouldn't expect it to be on there. So while accepting it is her responsibility I do think Wada could have done more to to inform the athletes they knew took the drug, having seen it in "a lot of samples". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 8 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: A case that simply shows the absurdity of drug rules in athletics, which of course are equally absurd in everyday life. Sharapova took a "drug" for a decade to control a risk of diabetes. On January 1st this year someone somewhere decided this particular drug should be moved onto the banned list. Sharapova claims she didn't open the email so missed the announcement. I get ~100 emails a day and maybe open 10-20 of them. Only a 100 emails a day? Pshhhh, you light weight. Anyways from the title of this thread thought she got caught in a sex tape scandal or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisse Posted March 8, 2016 Author Share Posted March 8, 2016 7 hours ago, Gypsy Ram said: Only a 100 emails a day? Pshhhh, you light weight. Anyways from the title of this thread thought she got caught in a sex tape scandal or something. Sport thread and you are expecting to find a sex tape. You Sir, have a dirty mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 14 minutes ago, Cisse said: Sport thread and you are expecting to find a sex tape. You Sir, have a dirty mind. I can't begin to explain to you my disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisse Posted March 8, 2016 Author Share Posted March 8, 2016 5 minutes ago, Gypsy Ram said: I can't begin to explain to you my disappointment. Sorry if my thread created some false hope for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Just make all drugs legal that will make a fair playing field. We'd see some pretty good world records in athletics and forget talent we can build champions based on who has the best chemist EPO & blood doping are banned, but altitude training & sleeping in an altitude tent are allowed. They all have the same affect on the body by manpulating blood cells and how much oxygen gets to muscles. But two are cheating and two are not I think each sport should have its ownbanned list. Dependant on what the drug does and whether its deemed to enhance a performance. Does taking a bit of diabetes medicine for a tennis match really make you that much better when so much of the sport relies on skill? I think there is a difference between accidentally taking a cough medicine containing one of the many banned substances and openly cheating like lance armstrong. Bet there are many drugs that are banned list that create a level playing field. For example hayfever injections are classed as a steriod. Probably should be banned for athletics especially the sports involving fast twitch fibres but really do they need banning for someone like a jockey ? Different baned substances for different needs in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 making all drugs legal does not make it a level playing field. The people who can afford the best chemists, doctors etc can access the best drugs, and the most innovative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 1 hour ago, davenportram said: making all drugs legal does not make it a level playing field. The people who can afford the best chemists, doctors etc can access the best drugs, and the most innovative. I said that tongue in cheek hence i put we can reward who has the best chemists over talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Drug has nothing to do with diabetes, its manufactured in Latvia and helps with cardiac perfromance, increasing indurance. Simple case of a Russian cheating, she can join the the other russian cheats, as she will not be the last. 10 years of cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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