i-Ram Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Not the greatest of starts for Steve. Bottom with no wins, and on the basis of what I saw tonight a few dodgy signings who you wouldn't want in a relegation battle. Why can't I feel a bit sorry for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I'd have him back in a heartbeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Hope this job finishes him in management, very bitter about the way he left.He had everything at Derby, and he could have been a hero for all time here, respected and loved.First sniff of a so called 'big' club coming calling and he couldn't wait to **** us off and run off to Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Hope this job finishes him in management, very bitter about the way he left.He had everything at Derby, and he could have been a hero for all time here, respected and loved.First sniff of a so called 'big' club coming calling and he couldn't wait to **** us off and run off to Newcastle.No proof of this at all, he turned them down like 3 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 No proof of this at all, he turned them down like 3 times. He didn't publicly and unequivocally commit himself to Derby County at the first opportunity.Fair enough, he's a pro, he can do as he likes, but if he'd tied his colours to the mast he'd have got us up and been a legend. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 He didn't publicly and unequivocally commit himself to Derby County at the first opportunity.Fair enough, he's a pro, he can do as he likes, but if he'd tied his colours to the mast he'd have got us up and been a legend. IMO.I also don't believe that the rumours leaving hurt our forum. As Mac said the form started dipping well after the rumours emerged, it largely correlated with the massive injury crisis that happened. I would like to see how many teams would be able to cope with losing all there left side CBs, all there CDMs, both strikers and various other players. Personally I don't have any problems with Mac and didn't think he should have been sacked, but I'd rather not have this argument as I'm going to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Hope this job finishes him in management, very bitter about the way he left.He had everything at Derby, and he could have been a hero for all time here, respected and loved.First sniff of a so called 'big' club coming calling and he couldn't wait to **** us off and run off to Newcastle.Wasn't he sacked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 He wants his brolly inserting up his bottom and then fully opened.imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 If it weren't for the geordies and their nancy boy mackem mates the dirty chipeaters would be bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Wasn't he sacked?So was Billy Davies. I think mac similarly put himself in the position where his job was untenable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Honestly, I'd have thought this issue would have been put to bed when he said he always wanted to go to Newcastle after he joined them. And no that isn't something you'd expect a new manager to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 So was Billy Davies. I think mac similarly put himself in the position where his job was untenable.I would argue that the fans reluctance to accept his answers and refusal to adapt his tactics to the injuries which made his job untenable. If McClaren had the full backing of the fans he would still be here today and possibly in a better position than we are currently. The last few months of the season were an embarrassment from the fans, the whole atmosphere around the club changed from what was the best period this club has seen since Jim Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I also don't believe that the rumours leaving hurt our forum. As Mac said the form started dipping well after the rumours emerged, it largely correlated with the massive injury crisis that happened. I would like to see how many teams would be able to cope with losing all there left side CBs, all there CDMs, both strikers and various other players. Personally I don't have any problems with Mac and didn't think he should have been sacked, but I'd rather not have this argument as I'm going to bed.With the greatest of respect Deadly, I think that there's ample evidence that the rumours of his leaving did hurt our forum. Quite a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 With the greatest of respect Deadly, I think that there's ample evidence that the rumours of his leaving did hurt our forum. Quite a lot. Quite right, people got banned and everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Honestly, I'd have thought this issue would have been put to bed when he said he always wanted to go to Newcastle after he joined them. And no that isn't something you'd expect a new manager to say.With that statement he created a divide. Either he was lying to us or he was lying to Newcastle about always wanting to go there. Whichever way you look at it, he's a liar and impossible to trust. The club said he was 'willing' to stay but only because he had to and not because he really wanted to. The issue is in bed and fast asleep. I'm taking great joy in seeing him rock bottom of the Premier League and I'm sure he's taking great joy in seeing us only have one win in 6 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 With that statement he created a divide. Either he was lying to us or he was lying to Newcastle about always wanting to go there. Whichever way you look at it, he's a liar and impossible to trust. The club said he was 'willing' to stay but only because he had to and not because he really wanted to. The issue is in bed and fast asleep. I'm taking great joy in seeing him rock bottom of the Premier League and I'm sure he's taking great joy in seeing us only have one win in 6 games.Or he was telling the truth, he did turn Newcastle down in January and never once asked to leave, we sacked him, he was unemployed and took a job at a big club in the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 With that statement he created a divide. Either he was lying to us or he was lying to Newcastle about always wanting to go there. Whichever way you look at it, he's a liar and impossible to trust. The club said he was 'willing' to stay but only because he had to and not because he really wanted to. The issue is in bed and fast asleep. I'm taking great joy in seeing him rock bottom of the Premier League and I'm sure he's taking great joy in seeing us only have one win in 6 games.The other quote that got me was while he was still here, something about not commenting on speculation out of respect for John Carver. Now I understand it might be not be the nicest thing to comment on a job someone else may or may not get permanently but wasn't that Newcastles problem? The same Newcastle who showed Carver respect by trying to employ McClaren in January? Surely McClarens respect should have been first and foremost to his employers by being honest with them about what he wanted? Or to the players he'd helped convince to turn down Premier League moves?Anyway, like you said it's history. He got what he wanted and like some others I'll probably not be able to help being glad if it goes tits up for him. "Thisch isch football!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I would argue that the fans reluctance to accept his answers and refusal to adapt his tactics to the injuries which made his job untenable. If McClaren had the full backing of the fans he would still be here today and possibly in a better position than we are currently. The last few months of the season were an embarrassment from the fans, the whole atmosphere around the club changed from what was the best period this club has seen since Jim Smith.So he gave the wrong answers and stubbornly picked the wrong teams. His fault. Newcastle came in and his head went. Blew it when he could have been a legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Or he was telling the truth, he did turn Newcastle down in January and never once asked to leave, we sacked him, he was unemployed and took a job at a big club in the Prem.But still got the move he always wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Or he was telling the truth, he did turn Newcastle down in January and never once asked to leave, we sacked him, he was unemployed and took a job at a big club in the Prem."Always wanted to join" though. So he's buttering up the Toon fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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