DEL Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Will be playing right back for Liverpool next season. Would love to have him back though. By the way it's on Daily Mail (I know) Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18988-andre-wisdom/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramexpat Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 How can he first choice at Liverpool when he cant get a game at West Brom , plus surely Rodgers will splash 20 million on some crap instead Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18988-andre-wisdom/#findComment-812524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Teale Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I thought Wisdom is the kind of player we should go for and the board show some intent, I cant see him getting near the Liverpool team and he needs to start playing regular football. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18988-andre-wisdom/#findComment-812530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale The Ram Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Maybe a ploy to get his price up or maybe to show he is not for sale.Either that or Rodgers really doesn't have any clue about much... Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18988-andre-wisdom/#findComment-812535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Wisdom clearly isn't blond and tall enough to play for WestBrom. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18988-andre-wisdom/#findComment-812541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Wisdom doesn't get in WBA's team, yet Rodgers is willing to make him his first choice and pretty much only fit RB at the club?This is a manager who has spent upwards of £70mil on Lambert, Lallana, Lovren and Markovic. I don't believe for one second he wouldn't go after a replacement RB regardless of how Wisdom does if he gets a chance at LFC. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18988-andre-wisdom/#findComment-812546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Wisdom doesn't get in WBA's team, yet Rodgers is willing to make him his first choice and pretty much only fit RB at the club?This is a manager who has spent upwards of £70mil on Lambert, Lallana, Lovren and Markovic. I don't believe for one second he wouldn't go after a replacement RB regardless of how Wisdom does if he gets a chance at LFC.to be fair, all four of those players are good, just that going to Liverpool is almost career-suicide and always has been! Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18988-andre-wisdom/#findComment-812552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Or maybe give him a chance to see if he doing alright? He's better than Johnson anyway. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18988-andre-wisdom/#findComment-812554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 to be fair, all four of those players are good, just that going to Liverpool is almost career-suicide and always has been!Not questioning they aren't good but the 70mil outlay based on how they've performed for Liverpool ain't the best value for money Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18988-andre-wisdom/#findComment-812555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLACML Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Or maybe give him a chance to see if he doing alright? He's better than Johnson anyway. He's really not. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18988-andre-wisdom/#findComment-812562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 He's really not. he sausaging well is!If ever there's an example of a defender being picked on everything other than his defensive ability, Johnson is it!I cannot believe that buffoon has England caps and I don't! Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18988-andre-wisdom/#findComment-812566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLACML Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 he sausaging well is!If ever there's an example of a defender being picked on everything other than his defensive ability, Johnson is it!I cannot believe that buffoon has England caps and I don't!Firstly, Johnson is nowhere near as bad defensively as everyone makes out.Secondly, he's a very talented footballer which you're effectively just dismissing as irrelevant. Don't mistake this for me saying that technical ability is more important than defensive ability, but there's a mix to be found.It's just the popular opinion to say that (insert young talented player at lower level) is better than (established England international). Wisdom is good, but he's not better than Glen Johnson. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18988-andre-wisdom/#findComment-812572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Firstly, Johnson is nowhere near as bad defensively as everyone makes out.Secondly, he's a very talented footballer which you're effectively just dismissing as irrelevant. Don't mistake this for me saying that technical ability is more important than defensive ability, but there's a mix to be found.It's just the popular opinion to say that (insert young talented player at lower level) is better than (established England international). Wisdom is good, but he's not better than Glen Johnson.not having it mate, you've found my achilles heel, the player that makes my blood boil, the one that I rate lower than any right back EVER to play for my country. Wisdom has some defensive instinct. I personally think that Johnson has played his whole career out of position. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18988-andre-wisdom/#findComment-812584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 He's really not. He is really. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18988-andre-wisdom/#findComment-812585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 So a player that has had one decent season at a championship club then failed to hold down a place in a bottom half premier league team is better than a player that has been a premier league regular for 7 or 8 years and also has 54 full international caps? Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18988-andre-wisdom/#findComment-812725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 So a player that has had one decent season at a championship club then failed to hold down a place in a bottom half premier league team is better than a player that has been a premier league regular for 7 or 8 years and also has 54 full international caps?For me, Wisdom is the better "defender". I actually think that Johnson has the attributes to play that quarterback role that Gerrard played last season. I have watched Johnson closely, and his reading of the game is woeful, he's always a mistake waiting to happen, and his defending is poor and ineffective, a bit like Jordan Stewart for us a few years back. He has qualities, but none of them help him in his bread and butter role as a full back. I suppose at centreback, his aerial ability might have helped. Johnson's career is on the downward trajectory, Wisdom should be the opposite.As I say, just my opinion though. But I judge defenders on defending, as a pre-requisite, if they fail on that, not worth looking at other attributes. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18988-andre-wisdom/#findComment-812727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 For me, Wisdom is the better "defender". I actually think that Johnson has the attributes to play that quarterback role that Gerrard played last season. I have watched Johnson closely, and his reading of the game is woeful, he's always a mistake waiting to happen, and his defending is poor and ineffective, a bit like Jordan Stewart for us a few years back. He has qualities, but none of them help him in his bread and butter role as a full back. I suppose at centreback, his aerial ability might have helped. Johnson's career is on the downward trajectory, Wisdom should be the opposite.As I say, just my opinion though. But I judge defenders on defending, as a pre-requisite, if they fail on that, not worth looking at other attributes.You may be right but do you not find it odd that none of the manager he has played under have picked up on these flaws and played him as a midfielder or winger if all of his good attributes are on the attacking side of his game. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18988-andre-wisdom/#findComment-812729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Whats Tyrone mears doing these days? Seeing that we are going back to ex's. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18988-andre-wisdom/#findComment-812732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanRam Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Whats Tyrone mears doing these days? Plays for Sounders in MLS I believe. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18988-andre-wisdom/#findComment-812733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Plays for Sounders in MLS I believe.Let's have back, but he has to crawl back in through the changing room window. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18988-andre-wisdom/#findComment-812736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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