Comrade 86 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 5 hours ago, Alpha said: Joe Calzaghe never really got the attention he deserved. He came along at a time where the best were getting past it and he was able to pick them off. He was just a great fighter stood on his own with no real prime great fighters to have super fights with. Great fighter though. Froch v Calzaghe would have been incredible. He's hard as nails isn't he, Froch. So tough. He really was a warrior. But a complete Bamford. I can't stand his constant pouting at camera and he's arrogant as owt. I'd put money on Calzaghe when both in their prime. It wouldn't be the war that Froch would want. I reckon Calzaghe is the smarter boxer with the skills to win rounds while having plenty of toughness to deal with Froch success. Andre Ward haunts Froch. A guy who just refused to get sucked in and just boxed his way through. Calzaghe to do the same. Although now the years have passed I bet Froch would rather fight him now than back in his own prime. He may have a plastic nose but I bet his chin is still concrete Never understood how Froch has ended up being paid to play lip service. He only seems to want to talk about himself which is an awful trait for a pundit. Had actually forgotten about how badly he was schooled by Ward. I suppose Kessler was the perfect opponent in some ways for Froch as he was as happy to make a fight an absolute war and in fairness, it made for great viewing. I think it's fair to say that although Froch is held in high regard and rightly so, he'd be so much more well liked and regarded if he could just hold his yap for 5 minutes. Back on Haney, looking at his Boxrec, there's nothing there yet to suggest he's got any claims to even fight Loma let alone beat him. Once he's dismantled a Jorge Linares or two he'll have a fair claim but right now he's just white noise IMO. Andicis and Alph 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 6 hours ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Never understood how Froch has ended up being paid to play lip service. He only seems to want to talk about himself which is an awful trait for a pundit. Had actually forgotten about how badly he was schooled by Ward. I suppose Kessler was the perfect opponent in some ways for Froch as he was as happy to make a fight an absolute war and in fairness, it made for great viewing. I think it's fair to say that although Froch is held in high regard and rightly so, he'd be so much more well liked and regarded if he could just hold his yap for 5 minutes. Back on Haney, looking at his Boxrec, there's nothing there yet to suggest he's got any claims to even fight Loma let alone beat him. Once he's dismantled a Jorge Linares or two he'll have a fair claim but right now he's just white noise IMO. Think with Haney it's all just promise isn't it? He's strong, hard working and sweet shot selection. But he's still in the stage of show fights where he can make errors. His first live opponent he wants Loma? Fight a few top 20 fighters before going for a guy who's won over 400 fights, 2 Olympic gold medals, 3 weight world titles and multiple other gold medals in major events. See Wilder's comments? He is such a poorly managed fighter. He needs better advice. It wasn't him that lost you know? Comrade 86 and Andicis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, Alpha said: See Wilder's comments? He is such a poorly managed fighter. He needs better advice. It wasn't him that lost you know? Yeah. Think he's taken too many shots to the head to be honest. I really can't take him seriously anymore, not that I've ever held in an much esteem to be fair. Alph and Andicis 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 More on boxers saying stupid poo to pass the time in lockdown. Haye who couldn't beat Bellew thinks Joshua or Fury would waste time with him. Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Another one that the boxing purists might not like, but I think this will be interesting, albeit slow and lumbering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 53 year old Mike Tyson still got it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 3 hours ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Another one that the boxing purists might not like, but I think this will be interesting, albeit slow and lumbering. I just think it's a bit of a mockery of how dangerous the sport can be once you introduce pro rules. I expect them both to gas out early. That muscle and weight will use their energy within a round I reckon. One of them to be on his arse before the end of the 3rd. Probably just pummeled to the floor and be more tired than hurt. That's why professional fights with unprofessional fighters don't appeal to me. They're just street brawls and if you've ever been in a fight in your life then you'll know they don't last more than a few minutes max and with the adrenaline rushes and no breathing technique you're ruined. Shaky legs, jelly arms etc. I think this fight will be especially awful because of the size of them and they're built for short bursts of huge amounts of power. Bit of a kill joy aren't I? Andicis and Comrade 86 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gap tooth ram Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 On 05/05/2020 at 14:39, Alpha said: I just think it's a bit of a mockery of how dangerous the sport can be once you introduce pro rules. I expect them both to gas out early. That muscle and weight will use their energy within a round I reckon. One of them to be on his arse before the end of the 3rd. Probably just pummeled to the floor and be more tired than hurt. That's why professional fights with unprofessional fighters don't appeal to me. They're just street brawls and if you've ever been in a fight in your life then you'll know they don't last more than a few minutes max and with the adrenaline rushes and no breathing technique you're ruined. Shaky legs, jelly arms etc. I think this fight will be especially awful because of the size of them and they're built for short bursts of huge amounts of power. Bit of a kill joy aren't I? Maybe, but you speak the truth. Alph 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltRam Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 On 05/05/2020 at 14:39, Alpha said: I just think it's a bit of a mockery of how dangerous the sport can be once you introduce pro rules. I expect them both to gas out early. That muscle and weight will use their energy within a round I reckon. One of them to be on his arse before the end of the 3rd. Probably just pummeled to the floor and be more tired than hurt. That's why professional fights with unprofessional fighters don't appeal to me. They're just street brawls and if you've ever been in a fight in your life then you'll know they don't last more than a few minutes max and with the adrenaline rushes and no breathing technique you're ruined. Shaky legs, jelly arms etc. I think this fight will be especially awful because of the size of them and they're built for short bursts of huge amounts of power. Bit of a kill joy aren't I? All you say makes sense, and much as I'd like to see Eddie Hall knighted, I won't be watching this. My concern is what if one of them really lands? Connects with everything behind it...do we reckon this could be extremely dangerous? Bit concerned. Or isn't that the way the dynamics work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 4 hours ago, Needlesh said: All you say makes sense, and much as I'd like to see Eddie Hall knighted, I won't be watching this. My concern is what if one of them really lands? Connects with everything behind it...do we reckon this could be extremely dangerous? Bit concerned. Or isn't that the way the dynamics work? Obviously early in your pro boxing career you get gimme fights. Guys come in to test what you've learned, make you look good but ultimately get beat And a lot of these guys know what they are and are well paid. There's fighters with a handful of wins in 50 or 60 fights. Why do they keep doing it? Money. They're usually durable fighters that pose no threat but know a few tricks to survive. Helps you get a look at your favourite You do get dangerous mismatch fights. But ultimately there's thought behind the matchmaking. Every pro boxer knows the risks and knows the game The only match to these celeb style fights is they're both Youtubers/actors/rappers/darts players etc. Do they know what the other guy is capable of? Do they know how to protect themselves? So either somebody is going to get hurt or the fights will be so carefully judged that at the first sign of trouble it will be stopped. Everyone who watches combat sports likes violence. But you want to see warriors do the fighting surely? You want to see people get hurt. Sounds horrible but we don't tune in to watch them kiss and cuddle. But it should be between the modern day gladiators. Not plebs from the back row that are playing at being gladiators but given the tools to hurt each other. I accept many will disagree. They'll just say it's a fun harmless scrap. Be interesting to see the response if a referee let's it go one punch too far. Should be under amateur rules. It's white collar boxing. Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JoetheRam Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/52530143 Steve Bunce has done a good article on his "greatest night". Julio Cesar Chavez, Don King, 132,000 at the Azteca in 1993... Good reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 On 09/05/2020 at 16:36, ViewsFromTheMiddle said: Cuckoo ViewsFromTheMiddle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 16 hours ago, Alpha said: Cuckoo I have it on good authority that Tyson has been asked to make one small concession in order to ensure Tyson's dad's safety... Alph 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViewsFromTheMiddle Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Mostyn6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Highgate Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 He just thanked Daniel Kinahan, part of a notorious organized crime gang. Slightly controversial company Fury is keeping... CWC1983 and Rev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 21 hours ago, Highgate said: He just thanked Daniel Kinahan, part of a notorious organized crime gang. Slightly controversial company Fury is keeping... More here. BBC News - Daniel Kinahan: Questions over Fury-Joshua fight promoter's 'drug gang links'https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53010105 Highgate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highgate Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 27 minutes ago, reverendo de duivel said: More here. BBC News - Daniel Kinahan: Questions over Fury-Joshua fight promoter's 'drug gang links'https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53010105 Given all Fury's Irish family connections surely he must know who Daniel Kinahan is. Rev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Now just needs to be in the UK. Oh, and to not get clipped by Wilder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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