Comrade 86 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 All kinds of respect for Wilder, I have to say. He's taken a beating there and was still wanting to go on with the fight. Proper and right that it was stopped though. I wonder whether Fury - Wilder 3 will happen now? Andicis, CWC1983, Alph and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWC1983 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 How dare I doubt Fury. As per usual he does exactly what he promises. Brilliant performance. @Alpha everything you've been saying about Wilder came home to roost tonight. Totally outclassed and found someone he couldn't bully. Ted McMinn Football Genius, Andicis, Comrade 86 and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 If I was Joshua id wait till Fury finds his chip pan again before taking him on. cstand, Andicis, Alph and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Wilder's corner run by jokers. Should retract this given his corner called the fight. At the time I thought it was Kenny Bayless. Fair play to them. Wilder too brave for his own good I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 C'mon!!!!!!!!! Credit to Wilder for showing a champions grit. But ask Chisora what Tyson Fury does to you if you don't stop. He never drops pace. He is a 12 round fighter. He. Does. Not. Stop. When you put Tyson in a fight he comes in with skill and clowning around When you put a challenge right on his toes then you get a 6ft 9, 19st relentless masterclass of unpredictability. His off beat timing destroyed Wilder. It's a similar approach of say Usyk at these weights and then you have to go down to the light heavies and super middle to find guys that change height and distance so quickly and often. Wilder is truly beaten by Fury now. Surely he won't be back for more. He's had 19 rounds to stop Tyson. He's won what? 3 rounds max? And he had a nightmare then. Completely unable to even get Fury to respect the jab never mind hold him in place for a hook. Wilder had a few moments where he was afforded a bit of recovery time and he had one moment where the ref could have called it. The corner did the right thing. Another 5 rounds of that? Live to fight another day dude. You might not be able to if you go out on your shield. Guess what. All the world heavyweight boxing titles are in Britain!!! We have 2 heavyweight champions!! Comrade 86, bigbadbob, Zag zig and 3 others 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Legendary from Tyson. Won every single round, dominated Wilder in every single way possible. Tyson in that form isn't beatable by any current heavyweight. Thoroughly brilliant. Comrade 86, Carl Sagan, Alph and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Alpha said: All the world heavyweight boxing titles are in Britain!!! We have 2 heavyweight champions!! Give us the unification in Wembley. Please. Nobody needs to see that fight run back, Fury won both comfortably. Alph and Comrade 86 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 So Rocky punched out MrT! I hope he can defeat the USSR in the next match! cstand and Alph 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Andicis said: Give us the unification in Wembley. Please. Nobody needs to see that fight run back, Fury won both comfortably. I can't see Wilder coming back for more. I don't see how he can reinvent himself as a boxer to be able to land the heavy shots. If Fury hadn't got up from that 12th round you could still say that he can still beat Wilder. He could comeback and box perfect. Or he could start sitting down on his shots because he rocked Wilder a couple of times. What do you say to Wilder now? In the third fight you need to... pin Fury with the jab? The best jab in the world belonged to Wladimir Klitschko and Fury took it away. Cover up and lure him in for an inside fight? Wilder is too small. That was a career heaviest weight and he got mauled. He might have to just let this one go. He will always have the best punchers chance in history. But that's 19 rounds done with Fury so... As @sage said, AJ might be best leaving Fury for a bit. Get his mandatory defences done. But thankfully I don't think he will and we could be in line for the monster of monster fights!!! ? Edited February 23, 2020 by Alpha Andicis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Alpha said: I can't see Wilder coming back for more. I don't see how he can reinvent himself as a boxer to be able to land the heavy shots. If Fury hadn't got up from that 12th round you could still say that he can still beat Wilder. He could comeback and box perfect. Or he could start sitting down on his shots because he rocked Wilder a couple of times. What do you say to Wilder now? In the third fight you need to... pin Fury with the jab? The best jab in the world belonged to Wladimir Klitschko and Fury took it away. Cover up and lure him in for an inside fight? Wilder is too small. That was a career heaviest weight and he got mauled. He might have to just let this one go. He will always have the best punchers chance in history. But that's 19 rounds done with Fury so... As @sage said, AJ might be best leaving Fury in the wild for a bit. Get his mandatory defences done. But thankfully I don't think he will and we could be in line for the monster of monster fights!!! ? Fury was so aggressive today, he wasn't scared of Wilder's power at all. Just kept walking forward, not sure Wilder knew how to handle somebody who wasn't scared of his big shots. I agree with you, I can't see Wilder taking it again, unless he's gambling on just getting a freak shot to take Tyson out, but he didn't manage it in 19 rounds, can't see why he would in the next fight. He should fight Ruiz, or Whyte. Get a name he can beat on there. AJ taking Fury definitely isn't the wise option, but it's the option we all deserve to see. After all the top contenders ducking each other for years, we might finally get the big one! Zag zig, Comrade 86 and Alph 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Just now, Andicis said: Fury was so aggressive today, he wasn't scared of Wilder's power at all. Just kept walking forward, not sure Wilder knew how to handle somebody who wasn't scared of his big shots. I agree with you, I can't see Wilder taking it again, unless he's gambling on just getting a freak shot to take Tyson out, but he didn't manage it in 19 rounds, can't see why he would in the next fight. He should fight Ruiz, or Whyte. Get a name he can beat on there. AJ taking Fury definitely isn't the wise option, but it's the option we all deserve to see. After all the top contenders ducking each other for years, we might finally get the big one! That's a good call for Wilder. Go for Ruiz. If he can KO him nice and east then he could probably push himself towards people calling for a Joshua fight. Joshua obviously could KO Wilder quite easily I think but it would be a bit of a shootout. It would be funny if Dillian Whyte got the chance to refuse Wilder. The thing about AJ v Fury is they could do it a few times. Joshua is more complete fighter than Wilder and he did get past a more skilful fighter than himself when he beat Klitschko. So he should have the belief. What a performance! You said he'd stop Wilder in round 9 but I bet you were shocked when he flattened him so early on! He looked in trouble in round 1!! I thought they were gonna introduce a half time interval to help him recover the bloody cheats! Andicis and Comrade 86 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, Alpha said: Wilder is truly beaten by Fury now. Surely he won't be back for more. Gave you a 'Come On Derby' as no Get In Tyson' emojis are available. Thinking exactly the same thing. I know both had clauses for Wilder - Fury 3 but surely that'll be off the table now. It's not just that Wilder is poorly equipped to deal with someone like Fury but his team seemed to have no Plan A let alone Plan B. I think it would have taken a JCB to move Tyson tonight but I've never seen a corner offer so little encouragement or advice to their fighter. Compare and contrast with the Steward masterplan, brilliantly observed and conceived and equally expertly executed by Tyson himself. This was a very one-sided affair. The only downside being I had Tyson at 5/2 to win by UD. On that note, the Skybet survey had over 70% predicting a win for Wilder!!! Go figure... Anyway, for his own sake, I kinda hope that Wilder takes a raincheck on fight 3. Have to say he's kinda grown on me a little as I think there's more to him than he sometimes wants us to see and he's got all kinds of heart. Would hate to see him get really bust up and I can't see any other outcome if they do go again. As for Tyson, he's a fight or two from truly legendary status in the boxing world, and by that I mean the absolute top echelon. His toughest job now will be trying to find someone to give him a proper fight! To think I had him written off completely not so long ago. Only question I have now is I who will play him in the movie about his life? Some story. Alph and Andicis 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Just now, Alpha said: That's a good call for Wilder. Go for Ruiz. If he can KO him nice and east then he could probably push himself towards people calling for a Joshua fight. Joshua obviously could KO Wilder quite easily I think but it would be a bit of a shootout. It would be funny if Dillian Whyte got the chance to refuse Wilder. The thing about AJ v Fury is they could do it a few times. Joshua is more complete fighter than Wilder and he did get past a more skilful fighter than himself when he beat Klitschko. So he should have the belief. What a performance! You said he'd stop Wilder in round 9 but I bet you were shocked when he flattened him so early on! He looked in trouble in round 1!! I thought they were gonna introduce a half time interval to help him recover the bloody cheats! With respect to Ortiz, who's past his best, Wilder has only ever fought Fury at top level and was schooled twice. I think Joshua would prove too much to handle for Wilder, he's far more technically gifted than Wilder and has great knockout power too. I genuinely think Ruiz in the right mindset could cause problems for Wilder too, great chin and fast hands. I think the new lighter Joshua that fought Ruiz last time would definitely be Fury's toughest test since Wlad. Has a lot of power but also isn't a one trick pony like Wilder is. Surely would break all kind of records for viewership in this country? I genuinely didn't think he was going to get past 3. I suspected the heavy Fury meant what he said when he was going for the knockout, but no part of me saw him flying out the gates like that! He was getting ragdolled about in those clinches. Masterclass. Alph 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWC1983 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Hearn on Talksport talking a good game. He's saying that Pulev is deal is not done for the summer yet. Pulev and Fury both promoted by Arum, and Hearn said Pulev could stand aside to free up a summer Joshua v Fury undisputed title fight. Andicis and EtoileSportiveDeDerby 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Andicis said: Fury was so aggressive today, he wasn't scared of Wilder's power at all. Just kept walking forward, not sure Wilder knew how to handle somebody who wasn't scared of his big shots. I agree with you, I can't see Wilder taking it again, unless he's gambling on just getting a freak shot to take Tyson out, but he didn't manage it in 19 rounds, can't see why he would in the next fight. He should fight Ruiz, or Whyte. Get a name he can beat on there. AJ taking Fury definitely isn't the wise option, but it's the option we all deserve to see. After all the top contenders ducking each other for years, we might finally get the big one! Sometimes I get bored with the hype around boxing these days, but I’ve absolutely loved this one, it was so hard to call and the hype added to the intrigue and suspense. Reckon AJ v Fury would be the same, although on that performance, right now, I don’t know who could live with Fury. A Fury masterclass, he was outrageously brilliant, I’ve just rediscovered my love of heavyweight boxing. Maybe it was the injustice of the first fight, I was rooting for Fury with full on tribalism to put down Wilder. What a showman, would love AJ v Fury, it’s Great Britain that rules the heavyweight division (and Chisora or Whyte rather, in the wings too). Edited February 23, 2020 by Zag zig Alph and Andicis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Zag zig said: Sometimes I get bored with the hype around boxing these days, but I’ve absolutely loved this one, it was so hard to call and the hype added to the intrigue and suspense. Reckon AJ v Fury would be the same, although on that performance, right now, I don’t know who could live with Fury. A Fury masterclass, he was outrageously brilliant, I’ve just rediscovered my love of heavyweight boxing. Maybe it was the injustice of the first fight, I was rooting for Fury with full on tribalism to put down Wilder. What a showman, would love AJ v Fury, it’s Great Britain that rules the heavyweight division (and Chisora in the wings too). I know what you mean. Not sure if you watched the undercard, the Charles Martin fight was absolutely abysmal. Poor, poor quality fight. Glad the main event lived up to all I had hoped for. That's the thing with Wilder, no matter how hard he's being beat, he's still got that punch in him. I wasn't totally comfortable until the towel came in and it was over. Luckily AJ has a lot more in his locker than Fury, if we get that fight! I hope us holding all the heavyweight belts finally gets us the best fights at prime time here. None of this 5-6am business. What I love about Fury, is he didn't sit and moan about the awful, corrupt decision of the first fight, just got back on with it and this time didn't give them a chance to rob him. Wonderful! Edited February 23, 2020 by Andicis Alph and Zag zig 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexxxxx Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 2 hours ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Should retract this given his corner called the fight. At the time I thought it was Kenny Bayless. Fair play to them. Wilder too brave for his own good I reckon. he wasn't fit to start the 6th imo Alph 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaLocks Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Zag zig said: hat a showman, would love AJ v Fury, it’s Great Britain that rules the heavyweight division (and Chisora or Whyte rather, in the wings too). I think Whyte will get his chance next, Joshua will fight Usyk at Wembley after getting rid of Pulev. That means AJ vs Fury won't happen till 2021. It will be the fight of a generation and the biggest British sporting event since either 1966 or when the Scottish curling team had that bronze medal match, you decide. Alph and Zag zig 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EraniosSocks Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Since the last fight, fury levelled up and stepped up a gear, wilder just stayed in the same lane hoping to get away with his right hand. what a class performance fury pulled out tonight, not going to lie, worried when I seen how aggressive he was being and the lack of guard but in the end it was a masterclass. What a fighter. Knowing the dark place Fury came back from, he has to be one of the most inspirational sportsman in the world Comrade 86, Alph and Zag zig 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 56 minutes ago, BaaLocks said: I think Whyte will get his chance next, Joshua will fight Usyk at Wembley after getting rid of Pulev. That means AJ vs Fury won't happen till 2021. It will be the fight of a generation and the biggest British sporting event since either 1966 or when the Scottish curling team had that bronze medal match, you decide. Tyson has said since the fight that if Wilder does not exercise his option for a 3rd fight, then Joshua is next up after which he'll retire. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/51602618 It kind of makes sense really as with all due respect to Whyte, that fight would not be anything like the draw that Joshua and to a lesser extent Wilder offer. AJ has a compulsory defence against Pulev in June and assuming he negotiates that without mishap, an all UK unification bout would be next up. The only variable seems to be whether or not Wilder wants a 3rd pop which I personally hope he does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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