Norman Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Alpha said: Wonder what's next. Wilder v Stiverne III Wilder is such a poor boxer. Just finished watching the 'fight'. Deary me. Andicis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Norman said: Wilder is such a poor boxer. Just finished watching the 'fight'. Deary me. Hard to figure out how he's got so far isn't it. How has he not been knocked out before he can land the big punch. He gets rocked a lot Andicis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 It's so infuriating watching Wilder win again despite being outboxed. He's just got a big punch. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Andicis said: It's so infuriating watching Wilder win again despite being outboxed. He's just got a big punch. That's it. It is a hard one though isn't it. Evil one punch power. Let's see if he fancies Fury next as promised. I think he likes that fight because he thinks it's an elite fighter that will give him 12 rounds to try and knock him out. Same as the Ortiz fight where he knows Ortiz slows right down because he's about 50 (passport is baalocks) Thing with Tyson is he's far smarter than most and never plants his feet. I think he likes the fight because if he can avoid the big shot then he can't lose. Need AJ to do the biz now and maybe we can get him in the mix before everyone retires. Andicis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Missed the Ryder v Smith fight but seeing the word "robbery" a lot. Anthony Fowler got a points win. The greatest boxer in the world with a simple points win on his comeback fight from defeat. Oh dear ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 38 minutes ago, Alpha said: It is a hard one though isn't it. Evil one punch power. Let's see if he fancies Fury next as promised. I think he likes that fight because he thinks it's an elite fighter that will give him 12 rounds to try and knock him out. Same as the Ortiz fight where he knows Ortiz slows right down because he's about 50 (passport is baalocks) Thing with Tyson is he's far smarter than most and never plants his feet. I think he likes the fight because if he can avoid the big shot then he can't lose. Need AJ to do the biz now and maybe we can get him in the mix before everyone retires. If you're Wilder, would you wanna take that fight though? Fury beat Wilder last time, he knows it, we all know it. Tyson is the one that can avoid getting knocked out by his punch power, if he gets hit, but he's also probably able to just avoid taking any big shots. I really don't rate the names Wilder has beaten. Ortiz is a good fighter, but well past his prime now, he fought Fury and got outclassed and was saved by a dodgy decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 On 22/11/2019 at 18:16, Gap tooth ram said: Also tweeted that him and Dana White have something special planned, so expect some weird UFC / boxing hybrid match up. Mayweather v Khabib or McGregor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWC1983 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 On 24/11/2019 at 17:12, Alpha said: Missed the Ryder v Smith fight but seeing the word "robbery" a lot. watched the first 6 rounds and got bored. It was one of those matchups that just didnt work. Smiths massive height and reach advantage actually turned out to be a disadvantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 11 hours ago, CWC1983 said: watched the first 6 rounds and got bored. It was one of those matchups that just didnt work. Smiths massive height and reach advantage actually turned out to be a disadvantage. I think Callum Smith is boring watch every time though isn't he? Usually does his work from range and only ever seems to do enough to win and then take his foot off the gas. Like he just ticks off rounds. CWC1983 and Andicis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Gradually finding myself taking more of an interest in boxing. Looking forward to watching Joshua vs Ruiz after the Blackburn game. Here's a good podcast with Tyson Fury if anyone was interested: Alph 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Looking forward to watching Joshua vs Ruiz after the Blackburn game. Let's hope Joshua has developed a jab since the last fight, or he's in for another loss I reckon. Bubbles and Alph 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 8 hours ago, Andicis said: Let's hope Joshua has developed a jab since the last fight, or he's in for another loss I reckon. Yeah he should fight like he fought Parker just to be safe. He'll get the haters but he'll get worse than that if Ruiz gets underneath his nose again! Andicis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 11 hours ago, Andicis said: Let's hope Joshua has developed a jab since the last fight, or he's in for another loss I reckon. still find it hilarious how he thought Ruiz would be a walk in the park and then wham, he loses his belts. Starting to dislike AJ, his comments over the past month or so have put me off him, would like Ruiz to beat him again. Andicis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Squid said: still find it hilarious how he thought Ruiz would be a walk in the park and then wham, he loses his belts. Starting to dislike AJ, his comments over the past month or so have put me off him, would like Ruiz to beat him again. He's pretty much always an arse at this point in his camps. You know 2 weeks before the fight where they do some press he's a bit off with the media. Some of his comments have been twisted. He said about everyone should bow to him if he beats Ruiz but it was a dig at Wilder and Tyson who said they knew Ruiz would win because he's massively underrated. Lennox Lewis has had a dig (as usual) and said Ruiz is up there with Tyson and Wilder but AJ has a lot to prove. That's a bit of a farce because AJ has the best record. He just got dropped in a fight like Lewis did by Rahman. So AJ is saying all the people up Ruiz's arse better give him the same love when he knocks Ruiz out. (Which I hope he truly believes because if he is nervous then he's in trouble) I do agree he underestimated Ruiz though. Miller had him fired up and then failed his test. They shove a durable opponent in front of him not known to be a puncher. Wilder had smashed through Breazeale and AJ needed to make a big statement. So I certainly think he was focused on making a statement and forcing Wilder than facing the guy in front of him. Think he'll win if he's sensible and as confident as he sounds. Tricky though. Comrade 86 and Andicis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Alpha said: Yeah he should fight like he fought Parker just to be safe. He'll get the haters but he'll get worse than that if Ruiz gets underneath his nose again! With such a huge reach advantage, fighting boring to play it safe is definitely the sensible option. Ruiz has fast hands and a pretty good chin, he's dangerous if AJ lets him up close, if he uses his reach you'd have to imagine he'd win on points. Alph 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 58 minutes ago, Alpha said: He's pretty much always an arse at this point in his camps. You know 2 weeks before the fight where they do some press he's a bit off with the media. Some of his comments have been twisted. He said about everyone should bow to him if he beats Ruiz but it was a dig at Wilder and Tyson who said they knew Ruiz would win because he's massively underrated. Lennox Lewis has had a dig (as usual) and said Ruiz is up there with Tyson and Wilder but AJ has a lot to prove. That's a bit of a farce because AJ has the best record. He just got dropped in a fight like Lewis did by Rahman. So AJ is saying all the people up Ruiz's arse better give him the same love when he knocks Ruiz out. (Which I hope he truly believes because if he is nervous then he's in trouble) I do agree he underestimated Ruiz though. Miller had him fired up and then failed his test. They shove a durable opponent in front of him not known to be a puncher. Wilder had smashed through Breazeale and AJ needed to make a big statement. So I certainly think he was focused on making a statement and forcing Wilder than facing the guy in front of him. Think he'll win if he's sensible and as confident as he sounds. Tricky though. Yes that makes sense, I'm one who will always root for the underdog in matches like these though, not saying Ruiz is the underdog because he's far from it but would love to see him win again, you could see how much the last win meant to him. it's great to see. However if Ruiz does win again that could put AJ's match(es) against Fury/Wilder at jeopardy, surely? Alph 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Squid said: Yes that makes sense, I'm one who will always root for the underdog in matches like these though, not saying Ruiz is the underdog because he's far from it but would love to see him win again, you could see how much the last win meant to him. it's great to see. However if Ruiz does win again that could put AJ's match(es) against Fury/Wilder at jeopardy, surely? If he loses again I don't think he'd be able to sell out Wembley against the sort of fighter he'd face next. Would he even have headline PPV appeal?? And considering he's still a very very dangerous fight I can't see what Wilder or Fury would gain by fighting him. Not money if he's lost 2 in a row. Not belts. He would be off the elite scene for a couple of years I'd think. Hearn will probably build towards a AJ v Whyte match if Ruiz wins. Whyte would have it for fun and AJ would be able to get back to the top. But it'd be 2 or 3 fights away surely? Bubbles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) Half decent undercard now with Whyte, Povetkin and Hrgovic. Looking forward to this. Probably going to watch from a pub though, £25 ppv is too much. Edited November 27, 2019 by Andicis Alph 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Exciting card. Hunter v Povetkin looks good to me. Hrgovic trying to speed up his career and if Wach is fit he will give Whyte some rounds. Wach was dead on his feet v Miller though. Looked like he showed for the money. Povetkin v Hunter is a big fight! Andicis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Getting more and more excited for the AJ fight. Always a big deal when him and Tyson fight. I think like when Derby play someone who obviously will win (like Chelsea) as it gets closer you let yourself think of "if". By the time the game comes you believe Derby will win. A month ago I could see Ruiz winning again. AJ doesn't shine against the smaller men. A smaller man with fast hands? A man who was dropped but got back up no problem. Possibly a man that should not have a defeat on his record against Parker. But now listening to Joshua he just sounds like he's more determined than any time since he fought Whyte. As a huge sports star it's in everyone's best interest to get him back on top. He says he's had very hard sparring and I bet they haven't spared a penny on opponents. Then I look at Ruiz. Not the best record. Raphael Zumbano or whatever his name is went the distance with him. He isn't a big hitter. Maybe he did just scramble Joshua with that top of the head shot. A perfect shot. The best shot of his career. I mean AJ survived Wlad. A far better boxer than Ruiz. A boxer full of sly little tricks. Ruiz doesn't move like Tyson or Wlad. Even Wilder has wide range/stance that can make closing the gap a very dangerous job. Ruiz is small and tough. I can't see how if AJ stays on the jab that he can't nail Ruiz as he comes in. He'll have to concentrate and be patient. Keep the combos short. Maybe it's the Derby thing though. Just wishful thinking. Just want AJ v Fury v Wilder v maybe Usyk to start happening. They should be able to have multiple fights between them all Andicis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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