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  • Not good enough for where Man Utd want to be, good enough to improve a bottom to mid Prem side. Price doesn't shock me that much. Don't think he's as bad as people make out.

  • And when clubs go abroad people moan about too many foreigners and not enough English players are getting games in the Prem. One thing I loved about Derby last season was we were a young British team

Mmm....a little overpriced I would say.

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Being a general fan here....

 

 

"If he's worth 8 million then Will Hughes is worth

I wouldn't pay 8million yen for him.

Surprised at Villa assistant Keano on this one. Cleverley seems to me the kind of player that would make the Irishman's blood boil.

Not good enough for where Man Utd want to be, good enough to improve a bottom to mid Prem side. Price doesn't shock me that much. Don't think he's as bad as people make out.

I wouldn't pay 8million yen for him.

Surprised at Villa assistant Keano on this one. Cleverley seems to me the kind of player that would make the Irishman's blood boil.

 

Not me.

 

I bet someone whispered in Keane's ear "I think Derby might be interested in him".

 

That'd swing it for Keane given (not so) recent history.

I genuinely think it's a really good price for Villa.

I genuinely think it's a really good price for Villa.

The vast majority of transfers, when compared to McCormack's, will be great 'value'. Doesn't mean it's a very good price for Villa. They could have gotten far better, for far cheaper if they went abroad.

 

I don't know, Tom Cleverley is a good player - a very good player. 

 

He's a better version of Will Hughes for me,

And when clubs go abroad people moan about too many foreigners and not enough English players are getting games in the Prem.

One thing I loved about Derby last season was we were a young British team, very rare these days.

Good move for Man Utd, Villa, and TC.

I don't know, Tom Cleverley is a good player - a very good player. 

 

He's a better version of Will Hughes for me,

I'm not at the same wavelenght with people who say he is good player or worth 8 millions.

 

Midfielder who can't pass is as useful as striker who can't shoot.

I'm not at the same wavelenght with people who say he is good player or worth 8 millions.

Midfielder who can't pass is as useful as striker who can't shoot.

Can't pass?

He racks up 60 odd passes a game on average with a 90% accuracy. He's similar to Will Hughes in that respect. He doesn't have a cutting edge, but he gets his foot in and keeps the ball well.

He's a scapegoat for the country, similar to what Hatgreaves was for so long.

If you are professional footballer, you can make odd Hollywood pass every now and then. But just watch his passing closely. Too often to wrong foot and always too slow. Kills the flow of the attack very effectively. Close enough to receiver to make good percents but pisspoor if you check behind the stats.

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