AmericanRam Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I have not played PES for a few years, but I do recall the gameplay being a lot better than Fifa. However, now both of them seem to not have improved essentially at all in those areas. PES will never outsell Fifa just simply due to licenses that EA can get. For instance, if your a fan of a Australian league team or even say a Polish league team why would you buy PES? I understand they have good creation tools but still. P.S. Thank You Mods for the new post count. I am the first one on this forum to reach the million post mark! Granted, it is in the negative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 I have not played PES for a few years, but I do recall the gameplay being a lot better than Fifa. However, now both of them seem to not have improved essentially at all in those areas. PES will never outsell Fifa just simply due to licenses that EA can get. For instance, if your a fan of a Australian league team or even say a Polish league team why would you buy PES? I understand they have good creation tools but still. P.S. Thank You Mods for the new post count. I am the first one on this forum to reach the million post mark! Granted, it is in the negative PES' gameplay was far better during the time of PES 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 (though PES 6 wasn't as good as PES 5). The problem was the step to the next gen. EA got it all right, while Konami went backwards at a rate of knots. Personally, being a fan of the Australia league by the way, I'd trade having it, licences etc for better gameplay, but the simple point is PES has just been rubbish for year on year at this point. Just a shame they never pushed on and obtained more licences. Think they lost the Champions League now too. It would be a shame because they're just not making a very good game anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Fwiw. Championship is on it this year. So derby will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoetheRam Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I hope so. But doubt it. PES 1 to PES 6 (on PS1 and 2 - the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of 6 were horrible) were miles ahead of FIFA. I even stuck with PES throughout the last gen era purely in the hope it would return to its best. Obviously it didn't. I've got FIFA 14 on PS4 and although I enjoyed it early on, having played it on and off for nearly a year it's been revealed to be the 7/10 game FIFA always has been. PES 14 on 360 beforehand though was horrible - a massive step back from 13 which I thought was pretty decent. They desperately need to stop releasing a new cash cow every year and just develop a new game over the usual 2-3 years and then just patch in new teams and kits as and when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I think it was the demo of pes 2013 perhaps, had to sit through a 10 minute presentation you couldn't skip, then go through the tutorial, completing that before it would let you play half a match They somehow made the control scheme ridiculously, unnecessarily tricky and unintuitive - getting through the tutorial was hard work in itself because most of the instructions were terribly (and wrongly) worded, and the aforementioned control scheme required timing for some very simple things to be precise within about 0.2 seconds. I fluked my way through, played a match and... no rematch option, another presentation, and then dumped out of the demo completely, forcing you to start the unskippable presentation again! Needless to say they didn't get any of my money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perky1106 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Fwiw. Championship is on it this year. So derby will be Wow! Will it all be genuine or will it have 'Derbyshire', 'West London White', 'Suffolk', 'South Yorkshire' etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perky1106 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Actually I'm going to have some fun with this and predict what Konami will call the Championship teams if they don't have them licensed. Partly based on what some teams were called when they were in the "English League" on PES. Birmingham City - West Midlands City Blackburn Rovers - Lancashire Blackpool - Booktale Bolton Wanderers - Middlebrook Bournemouth - Dorset Brentford - West London Bees Brighton & Hove Albion - Sussex Cardiff City - South Wales Charlton Athletic - South East London Reds Derby County - Derbyshire Fulham - West London White Huddersfield Town - Calderdale Ipswich Town - Suffolk Town Leeds United - Yorkshire Middlesbrough - Teesside Millwall - South East London Blues Norwich City - Norfolk City Nottingham Forest - Sherwood Reading - Berkshire Blues Rotherham United - South East Yorkshire Sheffield Wednesday - South Yorkshire Stripes Watford - Hertfordshire Wigan Athletic - Lancashire Athletic Wolverhampton Wanderers - Wolves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanRam Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 It has been mentioned several times but will probably never happen:PES and Fifa need to join forces and make one game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 It has been mentioned several times but will probably never happen:PES and Fifa need to join forces and make one game. Of course it won't. That's like saying Battlefield and COD would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I haven't played Fifa so far but twice a year we play Champions League tournament with PES 5. Own team, playing ourselves with fix, "few" beers, barbeque and of course 8 players at the same time. Not sure can you have better time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanRam Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 The improvements announced by EA at Gamescom yesterday were far from mind-blowing. http://news.futhead.com/posts/fifa-15/29020-fifa-15-all-the-new-details Hopefully, some other things will be improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 No no no. You're all missing the point. It doesn't matter which is more realistic - in fact, I tend to favour whichever is more ridiculous. FIFA's ridiculous. It sets itself up as a slick, realistic, cool game flying the flag of the sanctioning body of the world's most popular sport. And yet....it does this. Until you've scored a winning goal against Forest with a white Miles Addison, or won a school tournament via a wonderstrike from Billy Kee against a defenseless John Pantsil who was for some reason in goal, you can't say you've given FIFA a go. FIFA isn't a game. Well, it is, but it's a terrible one. It's a lifestyle, to which PES will never have an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I love you Duracell. Post more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Didn't know it had the Championship. Booktale v Calderdale should be a cracker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 When the playing Fifa 14 the other night... A long pass was played through to the striker...my keeper came out and flattened him, two defenders running back to the ball tripped over the keeper, then they all fell over each other in a desperate attempt to reach the ball as it trickled towards goal. Eventually another player ran in and tapped it in from a yard. I was too busy laughing to even be annoyed. Seen a lot of crazy moments like that in Fifa 14 to make it enjoyable, gameplay itself is pretty turdly but the stupid random moments add a rare quality. Takes me back to Fifa 98... That video is fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanRam Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Overall, their is not a huge improvement it seems like from EA this year(what else is new).Through some articles I have read about early test plays the CM mode has improved a little in team management,scouting,and other areas but nothing too excitable.New GK AI looks promising but we will see. I will buy Fifa as I always do but I do hope it is not as buggy as last year.Over the past few years I have played multiple seasons with Derby,but then played in other leagues also(Had Freiburg for a few seasons along with Napoli).Anyone else play CM with some team other than Derby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Just to add... Pro 5 was my favourite football game. Fifa 98 a close second for the hours of fun in the indoor mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisse Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Last Fifa I played, you could hack the keeper from behind during a goal-kick, got a straight red though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Won best sports game at Gamescom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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