Test match England V India

[StaffsRam]

Take the captaincy of him, see if it helps him score runs. If it doesn't, drop him from the side as well.

[AndyinLiverpool]

He needs to manage his bowlers. The Indians have clearly got to Anderson and instead of helping him to do his job, the 'management' gets sucked into some embarrassing 'but he started it' counter charge. There is no control on the field and no guidance off it.

And if he doesn't trust his spinner, why is he being selected? I just don't get it.

Shambles.

[AndyinLiverpool]

Just seen an interview with Cook. He said he can't control the way his players play.

That is not a statement an England captain should make.

[Daaave]

I'd imagine you know as little about what happened between Anderson and Jadeja and about what guidance has been offered to Anderson in private as I do. Unless you can offer some insight I'm not going to bother arguing that point one way or the other.

 

His spinner is in the team as a number 6 batsman and, whilst I agree he could have been used a bit more in previous tests, he shouldn't have been particularly needed on that Lords pitch. I'd like to see a specialist spinner come into the side but there are no genuinely top class English spinners around so I can understand why we're playing 4 quicks with a part time spin option. Certainly we lost our most influential player during the winter and it wasn't Pietersen.

 

As for that interview, if he didn't qualify that statement then you're right, he shouldn't be saying things like that and it would suggest to me his head is completely scrambled.

[AndyinLiverpool]

If there's no case to answer for Anderson, the thing will get thrown out.

The alleged actions of Jedeja were so heinous that England only made a protest once the charge against Anderson had been made.

The management's actions were childish. Their example is a poor one. That's what I meant about guidance off the field.

[RLACML]

If there's no case to answer for Anderson, the thing will get thrown out.

The alleged actions of Jedeja were so heinous that England only made a protest once the charge against Anderson had been made.

The management's actions were childish. Their example is a poor one. That's what I meant about guidance off the field.

What happened between Jadeja and Anderson? Allegedly, of course

[Daaave]

Anderson allegedly pushed Jadeja in the pavilion after some heated exchanges on the field. Apparently Duncan Fletcher wanted to settle the issue without the formal complaint but Dhoni insisted on escalating it, saying Anderson has regularly shown too much hostility in the past.

 

As Andy says, England obviously didn't see much in the incident as they didn't press a charge until India did. But if there was a confrontation and there's a suggestion Jadeja was also in the wrong, I don't see what other option they were left with apart from reporting him too.

[Daaave]

Prior has 'stepped away' from the England team for at least the rest of the summer. Have to say it was a poor decision to pick him in the first place considering he has clearly been struggling with injuries. Hope he can get fit and back to his best, brilliant keeper and outstanding in the lower order on his day.

 

Hope Buttler can step up and perform at test level.

[Srg]

Interesting on Cook. The Aussies stuck with Clarke despite him being woeful for a good year and he managed to stick at it and turn it all around.

[Anag Ram]

Okay - my thoughts on England. I actually think it might be a good thing if Anderson was found guilty and banned. I know he's our best bowler but I'm just really pi$$ed off with the stupid mock aggression England's cricketers indulge in at every opportunity. If they want a fight, get some gloves on them and put them in a ring. If not, tell them to concentrate on their trade. They can throw a cricket ball at 85mph for crissakes. Isn't that the best way to channel their aggression?

The thing is that every opposition player we wind up with this stuff raises their game and batters us. Jadeja has absolutely humiliated Anderson in this test with his batting, bowling and fielding. Before that we have wound up David Warner and perhaps most famously, Flintoff wound up Youvraj Singh just before he hit six sixes in an over. England should shut up and concentrate. The wimps in charge of England don't have the balls to tell them so maybe it would be good if the ICC did.

Oh, and by the way, it seems to have eluded the commentators that England have proved not just that they are stupid, but also that they are scared of the short ball. That's why they played so many big shots with their eyes closed. And this was from a guy bowling pies at 80mph. What would Mitchell Johnson have done?

[RLACML]

Interesting on Cook. The Aussies stuck with Clarke despite him being woeful for a good year and he managed to stick at it and turn it all around.

Clarke is a much better batsmen than Cook. He's also got a personality. 

[AndyinLiverpool]

Prior has 'stepped away' from the England team for at least the rest of the summer. Have to say it was a poor decision to pick him in the first place considering he has clearly been struggling with injuries. Hope he can get fit and back to his best, brilliant keeper and outstanding in the lower order on his day.

 

Hope Buttler can step up and perform at test level.

 

This shouldn't have happened. He should have been dropped. He should not be in a position to dictate whether he plays or not.

 

This is part of the problem. Players are in control. The same happened with Swan and Trott in the winter. The team should never have got to the point where players, in effect, drop themselves.

 

Weak leadership. People responsible need to make decisions and actually take responsibility.

[Perky1106]

Losing Trott has been disastrous. I just don't understand why it's only this that has recently put Cook into major scrutiny though. He has been awful for a long, long time now.

[Anag Ram]

Cook is a very good batsman who is dreadfully out of form and that can't be helped by leading a team which is a mixture of petulant older players and slightly naive younger ones.

However, the truth is he's a terrible captain. His field positions are lame and passive and he does not have the bearing of a leader who changes things. 

What I wonder is what Peter Moores' job is. He sees his team struggling and his captain going wrong yet with twelfth men coming on to apply mascara to the players every 5 minutes he never seems to get the message out to shake things up. He and his selectors will fall under scrutiny today. A lot of people staked their positions on Cook over Pietersen (I agreed with them). 

If they want to take us forward, it starts today and Broad and possibly Bell should be rested.

[Curtains]

Cook needs a rest .

His batting has been found out

He gets out time after time the same way caught behind by the keeper or in the slips .

His captaincy is terrible.

He must be replaced .

Michael Vaughan should be listened too.

The England cricket team is in crisis.

Broad needs a rest he's injured.

Prior should have been dropped by ECB not decided himself. Etc etc etc etc

[Anag Ram]

Cook needs a rest .

His batting has been found out

He gets out time after time the same way caught behind by the keeper or in the slips .

His captaincy is terrible.

He must be replaced .

Michael Vaughan should be listened too.

The England cricket team is in crisis.

Broad needs a rest he's injured.

Prior should have been dropped by ECB not decided himself. Etc etc etc etc

Who would be your captain?

[Curtains]

Who would be your captain?

Eion Morgan until the World Cup and drop Bell.

I want Jordan for Stokes

I want Woakes for Broad

I want Buttler for Prior

I want Compton for Cook who gets rested.

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[Anag Ram]

Owen Morgan until the World Cup.

I want Jordan for Stokes

I want Woakes

I want Butler

I want Compton

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Eoin Morgan would be replacing one out-of-form batsman with another. His defence doesn't bear scrutiny at Test level and unlike Brearley, his captaincy alone isn't so hot.

Buttler and Jordan will come in and both are promising, but don't expect Buttler to get stacks of runs against test attacks with attacking fields. He's undoubtedly exciting, but we will have to tolerate a few failures and a few missed chances whilst he develops his keeping.

Woakes is a pretty average medium-paced swing bowler who would have done well in this test match but on flat pitches would get murdered.

I'm not saying don't pick these players. I'm just being realistic that things might have to get worse before they get better.

I could come in for Stokes - our averages are about the same!

[Curtains]

Eoin Morgan would be replacing one out-of-form batsman with another. His defence doesn't bear scrutiny at Test level and unlike Brearley, his captaincy alone isn't so hot.

Buttler and Jordan will come in and both are promising, but don't expect Buttler to get stacks of runs against test attacks with attacking fields. He's undoubtedly exciting, but we will have to tolerate a few failures and a few missed chances whilst he develops his keeping.

Woakes is a pretty average medium-paced swing bowler who would have done well in this test match but on flat pitches would get murdered.

I'm not saying don't pick these players. I'm just being realistic that things might have to get worse before they get better.

I could come in for Stokes - our averages are about the same!

Before you replied I edited my last post with spelling errors .

I trust Michael Vaughan and if he says give Eion Morgan a go give him a go.

Woakes is a very good medium pacer who bowls line and length and needs a chance

Prior was a liability so Buttler should have been in earlier.

Cook is that bad a the moment he's got to be rested for his own sake.

The KP saga will haunt England cricket for a long long time.

Peter Moores needs to sort this out. Why did Ali the spinner get very little bowling time and why can't the front line bowlers keep the ball up on the first day with a green bowling pitch.

It cried out for line and length not short stuff.

Why in the 4th the innings after Ali got out to a short ball last one before lunch did England just throw the game away hooking to 3 fielders on the boundary. Etc etc etc

Must have been a talked about tactic at lunch!

PS We so miss Trott and KP and Swann.

Cook has scored just 114 in last 7 England innings and Boycott thinks his tactics are poor.

Anderson has a hearing soon also over the Jadeja issue.

I do realize that Test cricket is totally different to one day and 20tblast and people have concerns over Buttler,Jordan and Morgan in test cricket but it can't get any worse than it is now !

This IMO.

[Mr. P]

What about giving Footitt a go? Doing great for Derbyshire at the min.