Day Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Manchester City and Paris St-Germain are facing fines in the region of €60m (£50m), restrictions on their Champions League squad size and a wage limit for failing Uefa financial fair play rules.BBC Sport has learned the two - among nine clubs under examination by Uefa for failing the governing body's "break even" test - face similar penalties.It is believed a Champions League squad reduction could see the clubs restricted to using anywhere between 18 and 21 players in Uefa's premier competition.A normal squad size is 25.A wage cap could also be introduced on the errant clubs to ensure there is no rise on this season's squad wage bill for the Champions League.It is thought clubs have until Friday to agree a "settlement" with Uefa.Failure to agree a deal would see a club referred to an adjudicatory panel in June where a non-negotiable penalty would be applied.At that stage clubs could then seek a final appeal at the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Switzerland.Under Uefa's FFP rules, clubs can lose no more than £37m (€45m) over the previous two seasons.http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27290532 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 I don't quite get the logic of this 'reaching a settlement' malarchy - they knew the rules that they had to obey and they've carried on regardless - they should apply the punishment as originally stated and move on to the next culprits.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maydrakin Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 The likes of Man City and PSG are not going to be unduly affected by cash penalties. Points deductions would be far more likely to make them conform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Good to see UEFA getting tough by asking both sides how much they'd like to be fined. "Under Uefa's FFP rules, clubs can lose no more than £37m (€45m) over the previous two seasons." Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 The likes of Man City and PSG are not going to be unduly affected by cash penalties. Points deductions would be far more likely to make them conform. Totally agree. If tou're prepared to spend those eye-watering amounts of money to buy success, a few measly millions is a small price to pay. Hit 'em where it hurts - points deductions, they can't really afford that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Totally agree. If tou're prepared to spend those eye-watering amounts of money to buy success, a few measly millions is a small price to pay. Hit 'em where it hurts - points deductions, they can't really afford that. and possible suspension from European football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 and possible suspension from European football. Not sure that would happen these days for anything other than extreme violence, too much money at stake internationally if you ban PSG/Man City from Europe... fining them though, who does the money go to? And can it be trusted that money from penalty fines doesn't find itself in a few back pockets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Not sure that would happen these days for anything other than extreme violence, too much money at stake internationally if you ban PSG/Man City from Europe... fining them though, who does the money go to? And can it be trusted that money from penalty fines doesn't find itself in a few back pockets? unfortunately I imagine the majority of it goes in back pockets, just like "agents fees" and "signing on fees" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyram Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 The same Man C who our own Tom Glick went to? Someone who seemed well versed in everything to do with complying to FFP rules? Hmmmmm. (And the same TG who got done for speeding last month.... can't be doing that in posh Cheshire dear). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted May 7, 2014 Author Share Posted May 7, 2014 Tom Glick is what John Vicars is for us at Man City, FFP isn't anything to do with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyram Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 He knows all about it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted May 7, 2014 Author Share Posted May 7, 2014 But that's not his area to get involved with at Man City, Glick sorts all the advertising and commercial side, not player wages and outgoings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyram Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 I know that, all I mean is I'm surprised this has happened - surely he must have seen or noticed summat going off or being said and he could have stopped it by telling somebody? Guess not in this case but when he was with us I saw a couple of interviews where he talked a lot about FFP and how important it was that all clubs had to be ready for it. Just odd imo tis all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 I know that, all I mean is I'm surprised this has happened - surely he must have seen or noticed summat going off or being said and he could have stopped it by telling somebody? Guess not in this case but when he was with us I saw a couple of interviews where he talked a lot about FFP and how important it was that all clubs had to be ready for it. Just odd imo tis all. I just think they're too rich to care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimbeard Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Another example of how UEFA panders to the rich and powerful clubs. If Man City break the rules and are fined. So what? Small change. If Lokomotive Dipshit of Albania break the rules and get fined they go bust. In effect this mean City can ignore the rules, but poorer clubs have to abide by them. Run this fair play stuff by me again please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyram Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Lokomotive dipshit of Albania? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimRam Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 That made me chuckle. Back to the topic. Deducting points from City so they cannot "buy the title" this season would also make me laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 I think Manchester City in particular need to be careful. They're not a United, Liverpool, Arsenal or even Chelsea. They're a small club, relatively speaking, who are backed incredibly well. I feel if UEFA are to ever make a big example of someone, a team like Monaco or Manchester City would be perfect to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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