David Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Fifa president Sepp Blatter has proposed the use of a time penalty as a deterrent to diving in football. Blatter feels players who get treatment but are not badly injured should have to wait longer before rejoining play. "I find it deeply irritating, when the half-dead player comes back to life as soon as they have left the pitch," said Blatter, 77, in his weekly column. "The referee can make the player wait until the numerical disadvantage has had an effect on the game." Blatter, the head of world football's governing body, added: "In practical terms, this is a time penalty and it could cause play-actors to rethink. "The touchline appears to have acquired powers of revival which even leading medical specialists cannot explain." Former Premier League referee Dermot Gallagher agrees simulation is an issue in the game, but feels penalising players in Blatter's proposed way may not be feasible. "You're going to need a very, very brave referee to say a players wasn't really injured, I'm not sure it's a real solution," said Gallagher. "I think most people in this country would adhere to retrospective action. "For me, I think an ex-referee, an ex-manager and an ex-member of PFA could look at video evidence and if all three agree on a dive, it's a three match ban." Blatter's comments come two days after Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho criticised one of his own players, Oscar, for diving in their victory at Southampton. Mourinho also urged referees to "kill the situation" after his Brazilian attacker was cautioned for appearing to dive in the the area after rounding Southampton goalkeeper Kelvin Davis. Blatter is intent on ridding the game of simulation, which has prompted 13 yellow cards in the Premier League this season. "Even though simulation is incredibly unfair and looks preposterous when viewed in a replay, some people regard it as smart or in the worst case as a harmless misdemeanour," added Blatter, who has been re-elected three times since becoming Fifa president in 1998. "The longest breaks in the game nowadays are almost exclusively the result of dives, simulation and play-acting to feign injury. "This kind of thing is treated with scorn in other sporting disciplines but it has become a normal and accepted part of football nowadays." Manchester United attacker Adnan Januzaj, 18, has received three of his five yellow cards this season for simulation. United fanzine Red Issue, via its Twitter account, called on manager David Moyes to speak to the youngster as well as Danny Welbeck and Ashley Young, who have been booked for diving in the past. Fifa's vice-president Jim Boyce has previously proposed the use of video evidence to help take retrospective action against divers. As part of his proposals to clamp down on cheating within the game, Blatter emphasised Fifa's stance on whether the ball should be put out of play if a player is injured. "The ball is in the referees' court," added Blatter. "The instructions are now clear on this matter: if a player is lying on the floor, the opposing team are not required to put the ball into touch. "The referee should only intervene if he believes a serious injury has occurred." http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25586007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Would create more problems than it solves. Remember Rammie dragging off Howard, only for him to actually be injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I think my favourite Blatter idea is still the one about making women footballers wear tighter shirts/shorts. Obviously he'd decided that while watching Brazil vs Sweden. If only he'd seen Russia vs Bulgaria he might have thought twice.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kokosnuss Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Stupid idea, sorry. Retrospective action on proven dives is good, though also problematic in that to be 100% sure it has to be a match with multi-angle replays available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 His idea is a bit of a non-sequitur - he wants to add time on for players who 'dive'? Surely players going down and feigning injury is a separate issue to the whole 'diving' debate. Players 'diving' aren't doing so to waste time. Players feigning injury are. C'mon Sepp, make your mind up who you're going after here. Retrospective punishment for divers. Time added on for timewasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maydrakin Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I like the Dermot Gallagher 3 man panel, if all three agree, give the player a 3 match ban. It would soon eradicate it. With injured players, I think you have to apply it to all players that go off as a result of an injury. Give them a 5 minute "recuperation" time. That or have the ref determine when to allow the physio to come on and to tend to the injured player whilst play continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I like the Dermot Gallagher 3 man panel, if all three agree, give the player a 3 match ban. It would soon eradicate it. With injured players, I think you have to apply it to all players that go off as a result of an injury. Give them a 5 minute "recuperation" time. That or have the ref determine when to allow the physio to come on and to tend to the injured player whilst play continues. I don't think that is the answer at all, and is wholly unworkable. A player can be fouled - yet his team are then forced to play for 5 minutes with 10 men? Surely that is going to do nothing apart from encourage foul play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB BIGGS Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 His idea is a bit of a non-sequitur - he wants to add time on for players who 'dive'? Surely players going down and feigning injury is a separate issue to the whole 'diving' debate. Players 'diving' aren't doing so to waste time. Players feigning injury are. C'mon Sepp, make your mind up who you're going after here. Retrospective punishment for divers. Time added on for timewasters. I doubt Sepp can remember who he's going after. He didn't seem to remember that it's hot in Qatar in the Summer either so I suspect he may be past his best, if he ever had a "best". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 You know what the biggest thing what needs to be done instead of silly directives? Players having the actual morals not to cheat. Over to you FIFA UEFA FA ETC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Almost anything that Blatter says is bound to be daft, by definition, but as Staffs says there's more than one issue here. On diving per se there ought to be a an internal, manager and player/PFA led anti-diving campaign. Some managers do take action - SAF, to be fair to him, got it largely out of Ronaldo's game; Martinez is speaking about it today; Moyes has had a go with Young (not wholly successful). Others need to in all divisions and the FA should support them with retrospective bans, fines and point docking (if a dive leads to a goal for example). On injuries the ref can wave play on as much as he likes but the players need to buy into it too. Jamie Ward played on and we beat the dogs, but it's a rare example. If a player kicks it out the ref can hardly refuse to stop play. Perhaps we should stop the subsequent uncontested drop ball nonsense - the contested version v Wigan was the first one I've seen for many a season. But equally the ref has to stop play when there's a clash of heads, as in Russell v Wigan. I'm not sure how in the heat of a match you would ever show that an injury was faked - we all know that some clashes do hurt but adrenalin and running it off can make it better after treatment. Johnny R had a fractured cheekbone that he played on with and a broken leg v Leeds. They must have hurt a hell of a lot. My impression is that in the Championship most players try not to have the trainer on the pitch and pick themselves up and play on. The PL may be different given the higher proportion of foreign players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSD Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Video Ref. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramexpat Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 its part of the game always has been , book them or send them off , even hit them where it hurts in fines , sin bins are not for tooball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Whoops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Video Ref. That is all. That would be the end of the game as we know it now. A big no from me. May as well not have a referee and linesman out there. The sport has become "americanised" enough as it is. Ball in and out and over goal line is enough for me. Like I said earlier, if managers and players had the morals not to cheat then it wouldn't be a problem would it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maydrakin Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I don't think that is the answer at all, and is wholly unworkable. A player can be fouled - yet his team are then forced to play for 5 minutes with 10 men? Surely that is going to do nothing apart from encourage foul play. How about unless the opposing player is booked for the infringement? Leaving it to the ref's discretion just puts them under even more pressure than ever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisse Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Every time that player is injured and the game has to be stopped due to the injury the player should be carried out and remain in medical area for five minutes at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimbeard Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Video Ref. That is all. But when would the video ref make his call? Stop the game to check every incident? We'd be there for hours. Next time the ball goes dead? Could be 5 minutes or more. Imagine the scene, last match of the season, the winnner of the match gets auto promotion. 86th min, Derby 1 Leeds 1. The ball's bouncing around the derby area, The ball ricochets off the post and hits Bucko's hand. PENALTY! scream the Leeds players, the balls booted clear and drops to an unmarked Bamford who races away and calmly slots it past the desparing dive of the Leeds keeper. Cue scenes of unbridled delerium. We're up. We're fookin' up! But no, the ref wants to refer it to the video ref. Silence desends, minutes tick by, finaly a decision. 'No goal, penalty to Leeds.' There'd be a feckin' riot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 This is first time I agree with Blatter at least at some level: something must be done to diving. Ban afterwards would be just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Come off it Sepp! Punish the team for having an injured player? Make refs paramedics? So soon after slating players who continue with possible concussion? "Never heard such a load of old blatter in all my life!" (I'm not impressed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Every time that player is injured and the game has to be stopped due to the injury the player should be carried out and remain in medical area for five minutes at least. Under those rules we could have been in big trouble against Wigan. There was one spell in the first half when the ref played on after THREE fouls - only finally pulling play back for a free kick because Martin had nobody in their entire half to pass to. You might also bring about the situation where the player stays on the field instead of receiving treatment - not a good idea where head injuries are concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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