froggg Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 What no fluttering German flags........? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisse Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 So happy with Nico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 McLaren to win the title I reckon. Only team to race today in launch configuration. No upgrades yet, and were competetive Mercedes to di what Brawn did when the team first started. Gain a jump on the rest due to new rules and others to catch them up during the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisse Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Those cars will change so much the next few weeks I'm not making any predictions. I just hope Nico can compete the whole season with a good car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Also Daniil Kvyat takes one of Vettel's records, the youngest points scorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 McLaren to win the title I reckon. Only team to race today in launch configuration. No upgrades yet, and were competetive Mercedes to di what Brawn did when the team first started. Gain a jump on the rest due to new rules and others to catch them up during the seasonNo chance. Red Bull or Mercedes for me and don't count out the Italians. Ferrari will come in to this late as they always do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Might be some issues with the fuel for Ricciardo. Kobayashi crash was brake failure, so no penalty points on his licence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 No chance. Red Bull or Mercedes for me and don't count out the Italians. Ferrari will come in to this late as they always do. Maclaren seem more reliable, have good pace in a car with no updates yet. The others have updates but issues behind the scenes. I think Maclaren with an active Ron Dennis will develop as quick as the others if not quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 McClaren seem more reliable, have good pace in a car with no updates yet. The others have updates but issues behind the scenes. I think McClaren with an active Ron Dennis will develop as quick as the others if not quicker.I think today they where lucky particularly Button with the safety car and being cute with tyre changes . Nice for Button to do well for his father. But you have a point . I just can't see beyond Red Bull , Mercedes and Ferrari though but I'm not saying your wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Red Bull may be disqualified for pumping fuel in too fast. Ricciadros car I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Ricciardo disqualified for breach of fuel flow limit. Revised order Rosberg 1st, Magnussen 2nd, Button 3rd, Alonso 4th, Bottas 5th, Hulkenberg 6th, Kimi 7th, Vergne 8th, Kvyat 9th, Perez 10th. 50th podium for Jenson Button, had to wait over a year for it since winning the last race of 2012. After no podiums for McLaren in the whole of 2013, they get two in the first race. Williams also double their points tally from last season already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Red Bull are appealing based on the fact the FIA sensor gave a different reading to what their system setting said. Its amazing they are the only team that had a faulty sensor - perhaps its Red Bulls system giving out duff info or not working correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Red bull have appealed. Here's Horners quotewe could see a significant discrepency between what the sensor was reading and what our fuel flow was stated as Seems to me they have totally disregarded the possibility that their system could be the faulty one. They may have set their system to be atca certain fuel flow (hence the stated as comment) but due to a system fault the actual rate could be different. no other team has complained about errors in the FIA system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 No one's complained officially, but it's widely accepted that the FIA's censor isn't as accurate as it could be. They had quite a few issues with it in testing. I remember at one point there weren't even enough to go round - Red Bull were using one borrowed from Porsche's Le Mans car. The difference is with Red Bull is that the other teams have made an off-set in their fuel flow to account for the inaccuracy in the FIA's sensor. Most teams have accepted that they weren't running at maximum fuel flow but accepted the problem was the same for everyone. Red Bull were arrogant and thought they were different, and ignored warnings. The DSQ was deserved IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 They need to use a common sensor, otherwise different equipment produce different readings. If all teams are in the same boat then that's fair. If the sensors are used in other formulas too then I can't see a grounds for appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 They need to use a common sensor, otherwise different equipment produce different readings. If all teams are in the same boat then that's fair. If the sensors are used in other formulas too then I can't see a grounds for appeal. Exactly, I really don't see how they have a leg to stand on. The FIA have made it clear to Le Mans and F1 teams that they have a sensor, and that's what they will take their readings from. If that sensor says they're putting too much bang into their engine, then they get penalised. It smacks of arrogance on Red Bull's part. It may well be that their equipment is more accurate, but that's besides the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Or god forbid there's a deliberate flaw in the software. A bit like the "hidden" functionality in the Benettons in 94 when traction control and active suspension was banned. A flaw that was "never used in a race" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Red Bull threatening to pull out of the lose appeal. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula-one/26721387 Also "You have to make F1 like it used to be - the top discipline of motorsports," In recent years, the only place where F1 a top discipline was in aero, these new power units are now 21st century tech and the only reason why RB are upset over it is because aero RB's strength is no longer the key factor. ----------------------- Hopefully the FiA has some backbone and call their bluff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 They know they are onto a loser so posturing. I think they forget they are a relative new name. If it was Maclaren, Williams or Ferrari with a bit of history then they could get away with doing it. Red Bull "You need to change the rules to let us win" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Horner interview http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/24239/9231815/christian-horner-reveals-why-red-bull-are-extremely-confident-of-winning-appeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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