admira Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Former Stoke City trainee claims club and ex-England captain ignored ‘abuse’ Belfast man George Blackstock says he was left with post-traumatic stress disorder after ‘initiation ceremonies’ Mick Mills, England’s captain at the 1982 World Cup, is accused of “turning a blind eye” to an initiation ceremony on young footballers that was known as “the Glove” and that has left Stoke City in court facing a landmark case. Mills, awarded an MBE after a career that included 43 England caps, was manager of Stoke in the 1980s when teenage apprentices at the club were allegedly subjected to a punishment ritual also known as “the Finger,” whereby a goalkeeper’s glove was smeared with heat cream and used in a sexual assault. Stoke are now facing a civil case for damages after a former trainee, George Blackstock, started action against the club for a breach of duty, claiming he was left with post-traumatic stress because the first-team goalkeeper, Peter Fox, perpetrated the act upon him in the first-team dressing room at the now-demolished Victoria Ground. Other cases are “in the wings”, the court was told, as more alleged victims from Stoke initiate their own claims, alleging separate incidents caused them post-traumatic stress and depression. Blackstock’s case is that, in another incident, a group of first-team players held him down and placed a hot teapot against his bare backside. Blackstock, from Belfast, is also suing Fox and lawyers working on the case believe that it could open the way for a wave of other civil claims because of the practice of initiation ceremonies at other clubs. “If one is taking the lid off Pandora’s Box, it is not likely to be an isolated event,” Nicholas Fewtrell, the barrister representing Stoke, told a hearing at Preston county court today. “This practice of punishments, pranks and initiations will have been common at clubs in all sports.” Staffordshire police carried out an investigation in 2008, with seven more former apprentices from Stoke claiming they were abused, but the Crown Prosecution Service ruled there was insufficient evidence. Mills, now 64, is named in the proceedings as having allegedly known about the treatment of Stoke’s trainees and not taking any action. Tony Lacey (69) a former Stoke player who was working at the club as their youth development officer, is also accused of being aware about what allegedly happened. “The manager knew what was going on and the development officer knew, and they turned a blind eye,” Blackstock says in a psychiatric report. Fox, now a coach at Blackburn Rovers’ academy, who made 477 appearances for Stoke during 15 years at the club and was twice their player of the year, denies the allegations. Mills and Lacey also deny Blackstock’s claims, the court was told. “These allegations against Mr Mills, a former England captain, are extremely serious in his professional career,” Fewtrell said. “To be accused of something like this, though it is not a criminal offence, is very serious for him, 25 years after the event.” Blackstock claims the mental issues he suffered affected him so badly it directly led to him being released by the club, then in the old Second Division. He claims he was dragged along a corridor to the dressing room, then made to lie down while his shorts were pulled down. He alleges three other first-team players were present and that all the other apprentices and first-team players knew what had happened. He also claims he heard someone shout: “Foxy, give him the glove.” Another apprentice, Ian Gibbons, was named in court as saying he had “received the glove about a month after George received it”. A statement from Gibbons says: “I remember George had brought tea for some of the players and some complained it was not warm enough. The players held him down and the hot teapot was placed on his backside. Peter Fox went over to George and inserted his glove into his backside. I remember George being hysterical and crying. It was awful to witness.” Blackstock says he did not report either incident because he felt it would jeopardise his chances of getting a professional contract. He now works as a driver and a storeman for a double-glazing company and is suing for “distress, pain, humiliation, injury, loss and damage”. In his written defence, the 56-year-old Fox says: “It is an allegation without any substance whatsoever, made at least 25 years after the alleged events are supposed to have taken place.” Fox, who also played for Sheffield Wednesday and Exeter City, describes the claims as a “devastating shock” and denies assaulting “any apprentice … at Stoke City or anywhere else”. The hearing is determining whether the case can proceed, due to the length of time that has passed since the alleged incidents took place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Bugger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Feel sick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisse Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I will be surprised if there is not some truth behind these allegations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbydave96 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 That's disgusting, wouldn't be suprised if this was true though unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyram Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrivateDerby Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Feel sick Bet he feels sick putting a glove on for work. Don't even mean that as a joke, could you imagine? It'd stay with you forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I remember Peter Fox being unluckily the first keeper to be sent off for a professional foul. He slid out of the box with the ball in his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 . Speechless m'lady? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I was abused at Stoke a few times..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenmarkRam Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Please guys. Wake up. English football is sick. Have a friend in FA. Sometimes i Think english football are lost in .......There are so much money in english football. No other modern Company would be run this Way. Please wake up and see the quality of your national team. I know you kill me..... But you have to see the truth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 These "initiation" ceremonies were going on everywhere so i suppose its no surprise that professional footballers were doing it. The all male locker room culture could be unforgiving for some and i guess some people were just plain sadistic and many others turned a blind eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Someone has to point the finger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyram Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Speechless m'lady?Yep, can't quite think of what to say :-(. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admira Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 Not sure I'd admit in public to having a glove shoved up my a$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyram Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Not sure I'd admit in public to having a glove shoved up my a$$Don't think anyone likes making things like this public, that's a very personal choice, and a brave one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Nothing different to starting work as an apprentice up to the mid 90's Getting yer ****** boss white'd was common. Trouble was that every one went through it, so they wanted to carry it on because it happened to them. I guess I was a lucky one, as it had stopped where I worked. Footballers still go through it now days, but mainly just singing in front of the whole changing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Don't know why you would ever want to bugger another bloke for a laugh. It's beyond weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisse Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 One thing also is the group pressure. If you have six guys who would never do something stupid by themselves they are however easily drawn to pull all kinds of stunts together. Stupidity expands as you get more people involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 One thing also is the group pressure. If you have six guys who would never do something stupid by themselves they are however easily drawn to pull all kinds of stunts together. Stupidity expands as you get more people involved. the forest attendance thread is on the other page mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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