Ramshankered Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Fair enough, I only skim-read the couple of pages before that, if I'm honest. How did you know it's Smokescreen? My fave cartoon as a kid. Still read the IDW comics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 I said it years ago, Clough is a very basic manager and you should have got rid a long time before you did. Your recent upturn in form only highlights what a poor job he was doing at Derby I wonder how long it will be before the everyday regular Forest fan comes round to the fact that Steve McClaren perhaps isn't the worst manager of all time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Dawn Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 No, that was Gary Megson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I said it years ago, Clough is a very basic manager and you should have got rid a long time before you did. Your recent upturn in form only highlights what a poor job he was doing at Derby Didn't you also say that Forest would get promoted? There has not really been a recent upturn in form. Since NC left we have drawn at home with Ipswich and Birmingham, the only outstanding result was the away win at Watford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDCAR Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 There has not really been a recent upturn in form. Since NC left we have drawn at home with Ipswich and Birmingham, the only outstanding result was the away win at Watford. Maybe not, but the fans are back and Prid......... the iPro seems buzzing again.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Maybe not, but the fans are back and Prid......... the iPro seems buzzing again.....? Not disputing that, I would also say that I have the football much better to watch. I know NC had us playing good possession football but I thought it was quiet boring watching Keogh to Buxton to Keogh to Buxton to Keogh to Forsyth to the opposition. I was merely disputing Red Dawns point that there has been an upturn in our form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Dawn Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I don't know, beating Wednesday 3-0 at home was a good result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I would say there has definitely been an upturn. Not a chance we would have beat Watford, run QPR so close and dominated Sheff Weds. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Not disputing that, I would also say that I have the football much better to watch. I know NC had us playing good possession football but I thought it was quiet boring watching Keogh to Buxton to Keogh to Buxton to Keogh to Forsyth to the opposition. I was merely disputing Red Dawns point that there has been an upturn in our form. You can't really count the Ipswich match for either manager, but in Mac's 5 games in charge and NC's last 5 the form is/was Mac: 3 Wins, 1 draw, 1 defeat. NC: 1 Wins, 1 draw, 3 defeats. There's clearly been an upturn in form over a short 5 game period. Both managers had tough games, whether the recent good form can be sustained though a tough winter is a different matter. That was often NC's failing, He would start a season pretty well, then our form would nose dive at some point in Dec/Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 You can't really count the Ipswich match for either manager, but in Mac's 5 games in charge and NC's last 5 the form is/was Mac: 3 Wins, 1 draw, 1 defeat. NC: 1 Wins, 1 draw, 3 defeats. There's clearly been an upturn in form over a short 5 game period. Both managers had tough games, whether the recent good form can be sustained though a tough winter is a different matter. That was often NC's failing, He would start a season pretty well, then our form would nose dive at some point in Dec/Jan. Fair comment and I suppose the facts back that up. The 3 defeats for NC were Burnley, Reading and Forest the 3 victories for SM were Watford, Leeds and Sheff Wed, so I think we are comparing apples with pears. The only result which may have shown any upturn in form in my opinion was the win at Watford but other than Forest we were already winning away games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Fair comment and I suppose the facts back that up. The 3 defeats for NC were Burnley, Reading and Forest the 3 victories for SM were Watford, Leeds and Sheff Wed, so I think we are comparing apples with pears. The only result which may have shown any upturn in form in my opinion was the win at Watford but other than Forest we were already winning away games. Fair point, although we can only really compare the 5 games either side of the change. If you take the defeat at QPR for Mac (where we ran them close) as a very tough game, then the Brum game is his only disappointing result in his 5 and it wasn't even a defeat. Promising signs. Let's hope they continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnieronalde Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I couldn't find any updates last night on Sheff Utd, which for a Derby County forum is strange. Brilliant win yesterday for the best manager the league has ever seen. If we had him at Derby we'd have smashed Bournemouth by at least 2 instead of scraping a flukey ginger one niller. He must be a genius, he's got a 60% win record, that puts him up there with the likes of Mourinho and Ferguson but still quite a bit behind Tony Pullis at Palace. McMuffin must be choking on his breakfast muffins otherwise he'd have been the first to mention it. Its only a matter of time before a real CEO takes over at Derby and brings him back to finish the job he was so close to getting right. Rush out, Clough in. Bang that drum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I was going to comment... Clough finally winning more than he loses.. He seems to have found his level? Then again that whole statistic could change in the next game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Bit of a bump, went looking for Russell comments and found this..... Seems they are pretty happy with Nigel, excellent job so far one even says. http://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/nigel-clough-so-far.32340/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex W Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 He's a good manager is why, not brilliant, but good. That squad needs a clear out, some real dross over there on pretty hefty wages I suspect for that league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Daly Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 I'm pleased for him. I'm sure most Derby fans would like to see him do well. So long as he doesn't go to Forest and do well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froggg Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 I'm pleased for him. I'm sure most Derby fans would like to see him do well. So long as he doesn't go to Forest and do well Yes so long as our noses are not rubbed in it.. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 He is a good manager, no question. I hope he does well, and I'm sure he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Thought it would balance out some of the negativity in here. Wasn't his biggest fan but fair play if he's doing alright down there, nice to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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