BondJovi Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 "John, Nigel here. I have a burning ambition and I think you are the man to do it. I have scoured the lower leagues of England, I have pranced and danced through the highlands of Scotland, I am yet to visit Barry Town but I know in you I have found the answer. Together, we will reach the Second Round of the Capital One Cup" I'll go and lie down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott_dcfc Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 "John, Nigel here. I have a burning ambition and I think you are the man to do it. I have scoured the lower leagues of England, I have pranced and danced through the highlands of Scotland, I am yet to visit Barry Town but I know in you I have found the answer. Together, we will reach the Second Round of the Capital One Cup" I'll go and lie down. That deserves a lol in caps. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich3478 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Made me chuckle too!! It all seems to have got petulant and tit for tat at derby, Clough seems to be eager to prove himself right all the time and his haters jump on him instantly! Sunday frustrated me massively but it's not the end of the world, then we beat a league one side and Clough seems to be "I told you so" about eustace. Just want a bit more humility all round, Clough needs to be more adaptable and admit mistakes more often. Equally when we do well people saying its in spite of Clough isn't on either. Realise we're all striving towards the same goal, be it by different methods, at different speeds etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyram Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Humility? On here? We can but wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich3478 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Come on here looking for transfer news and match reaction etc. Have to scroll through pages of nonsense to find anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notts_ram Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 You poor deluded fool if you thought you would find anything of worth on here lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Made me chuckle too!! It all seems to have got petulant and tit for tat at derby, Clough seems to be eager to prove himself right all the time and his haters jump on him instantly! Sunday frustrated me massively but it's not the end of the world, then we beat a league one side and Clough seems to be "I told you so" about eustace. Just want a bit more humility all round, Clough needs to be more adaptable and admit mistakes more often. Equally when we do well people saying its in spite of Clough isn't on either. Realise we're all striving towards the same goal, be it by different methods, at different speeds etc. I only disagree about one thing. The manager shouldn't feel any need to admit to making mistakes. It's a football club, which is basically a dictatorship, not a debating society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramesses Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 No you're both right, and my belief that ONE league cup fixture win in 5 years is pretty poor is wrong! Next time I’ll not reply to what you write but will try to reply to what you might have wanted to write when you think about it later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Next time I’ll not reply to what you write but will try to reply to what you might have wanted to write when you think about it later. That is what I thought as well. A bit confusing but will try to work out what he is really wanting to write in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I only disagree about one thing. The manager shouldn't feel any need to admit to making mistakes. It's a football club, which is basically a dictatorship, not a debating society. I tend to agree with this. The Manager needs to be right all the time. If he starts admitting mistakes he starts looking weak. Maybe fans like it but players like to think the manager is confident in his decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich3478 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I don't expect him to come out with his hands up every week, just be a little more flexible and adaptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulpman Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Clough has to show confidence in is decisions as that breeds confidence in his players Sometimes wonder if people on here really do think that Clough is trying to muck it up on purpose or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Next time I’ll not reply to what you write but will try to reply to what you might have wanted to write when you think about it later. Well, it shouldn't have been that hard, given that you both replied mentioning cup upsets and there being no forgone conclusions in the cup. My comment was that we should be beating teams like Oldham (relegation battlers from the division below the one we are aiming for top 6!) at a canter. I accept the opposition will raise their game and not make it as easy as it could be sometimes, but it's pretty poor to big up the opposition, given that we NEVER beat teams in the league above us, and regularly lose against teams from below.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notts_ram Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I only disagree about one thing. The manager shouldn't feel any need to admit to making mistakes. It's a football club, which is basically a dictatorship, not a debating society. Reminds me of a passage in the book The Damned United when Clough is being questioned by John Giles about his team selection and retorts that he doesnt have to justify himself to him, Giles turns around and replies that he's right, but he does have to justify himself to the 40,000 fans on Saturday. Same thing applies to all managers including Nigel Clough, they can admit with humility that they have made a mistake or tough it out but either way the paying supporters will judge whether they agree with him or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Well, it shouldn't have been that hard, given that you both replied mentioning cup upsets and there being no forgone conclusions in the cup. My comment was that we should be beating teams like Oldham (relegation battlers from the division below the one we are aiming for top 6!) at a canter. I accept the opposition will raise their game and not make it as easy as it could be sometimes, but it's pretty poor to big up the opposition, given that we NEVER beat teams in the league above us, and regularly lose against teams from below.... I am not sure that I 'bigged up' the opposition. I merely said that teams that are expected to win in the cup sometimes don't. How many times have we played a team from the league above in the last five years, I don't think it is anywhere near as many as us playing teams from below (maybe because the teams from below have knocked us out before we get to them eh?). I don't think that we are too far apart, it is just that you sometimes exaggerate the point you are trying to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramesses Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Well, it shouldn't have been that hard, given that you both replied mentioning cup upsets and there being no forgone conclusions in the cup. My comment was that we should be beating teams like Oldham (relegation battlers from the division below the one we are aiming for top 6!) at a canter. I accept the opposition will raise their game and not make it as easy as it could be sometimes, but it's pretty poor to big up the opposition, given that we NEVER beat teams in the league above us, and regularly lose against teams from below.... One moment please… ".gawkerassets.com/img/18j4og006jshsjpg/original" alt="original"> …no mostyn, I’m not a fan of musical theatre and my parents were married well before I was born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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