McMuffin Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Aren't you contradicting yourself a bit there? Moore not a great player but played in top six teams so is a top six player?! So if Derby finish in top six then that would make Buxton a top six player? I was just highlighting there Strengths and weaknesses and Moore overall he was a top 6 player but I'm sure even he would admit he wasn't the best on the ball but as a defender he was a warrior. Derby and Buxton haven't finished in the top 6. Buxton and this team will never in a million years finish top 6 not a chance. You can't finish that high with Buxton standard players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I was just highlighting there Strengths and weaknesses and Moore overall he was a top 6 player but I'm sure even he would admit he wasn't the best on the ball but as a defender he was a warrior. Derby and Buxton haven't finished in the top 6. Buxton and this team will never in a million years finish top 6 not a chance. You can't finish that high with Buxton standard players. So you don't think our new singings are capable of improving us by 9 or 10 points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMuffin Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 So you don't think our new singings are capable of improving us by 9 or 10 points? Not sure to be honest like Granty and Russell and Martin to be fair. Defence is a key position if we don't get a decent CB no chance. Also these negative subs will not stop that's why Eustace was signed. Everyone should get up and leave the stadium when he get on because why would any one want to watch that style you get with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Not sure to be honest like Granty and Russell and Martin to be fair. Defence is a key position if we don't get a decent CB no chance. Also these negative subs will not stop that's why Eustace was signed. Everyone should get up and leave the stadium when he get on because why would any one want to watch that style you get with him. Don't think it was the centre backs that cost us points yesterday. As already stated the most potent striker in this division hardly had a sniff. Not sure what more you wanted from them yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMuffin Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Don't think it was the centre backs that cost us points yesterday. As already stated the most potent striker in this division hardly had a sniff. Not sure what more you wanted from them yesterday. Wasn't blaming them for yesterday defence wasn't good enough last season and its the same CB pair. Yeah Granty should help but I don't rate Buxton never had. He had a few shaky moments yesterday that he got away with, but on another day. Rhodes great poacher but not a fan myself he don't do a lot else does he? Like a better version of Theo Robinson no way worth £8M. **** me if he's worth that I want £20 up front with add ons for Will Hughes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Wasn't blaming them for yesterday defence wasn't good enough last season and its the same CB pair. Yeah Granty should help but I don't rate Buxton never had. He had a few shaky moments yesterday that he got away with, but on another day. Rhodes great poacher but not a fan myself he don't do a lot else does he? Like a better version of Theo Robinson no way worth £8M. **** me if he's worth that I want £20 up front with add ons for Will Hughes £20? I'd want at least £25! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMuffin Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 £20? I'd want at least £25! I hope we take a strong stance when the inevitable bids come in. Wouldn't be surprised if someone has go at getting him at the end of the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMuffin Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 £20? I'd want at least £25! Lol only just realised what I done there missed a big M. Still hungover from Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramble On Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Buxton is good if we want to hang around mid table. Keogh gets exposed easily and did on a few occasions Sunday. We need someone Barker-esque to play next to Keogh to steady the ship if we want to progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMuffin Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Let's be honest after all his injury's Barkers best days are behind him. And at his best was he ever a top 6 defender? Certainly not with us, what about Blackpool? Mid table player deffo as that's what he has been all his career so why do people think we don't need a centre half to achieve top 6 even if he does make a full recovery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramble On Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Let's be honest after all his injury's Barkers best days are behind him. And at his best was he ever a top 6 defender? Certainly not with us, what about Blackpool? Mid table player deffo as that's what he has been all his career so why do people think we don't need a centre half to achieve top 6 even if he does make a full recovery? I personally don't think he'll be back to full fitness and would have him in a coaching role at the club because he's a great ambassador. But the role he played before his injury, led by example and put his body on the line and was reliable. For the time Eustace was on the pitch he looked more of a captain than Keogh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 I was just highlighting there Strengths and weaknesses and Moore overall he was a top 6 player but I'm sure even he would admit he wasn't the best on the ball but as a defender he was a warrior. Derby and Buxton haven't finished in the top 6. Buxton and this team will never in a million years finish top 6 not a chance. You can't finish that high with Buxton standard players. So if Buxton played in Barcelonas team they wouldn't finish top 6 in the championship - my word!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMuffin Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 So if Buxton played in Barcelonas team they wouldn't finish top 6 in the championship - my word!! Buxton wouldn't play for Barcelona mate or anyone good for that matter hence the lack of offers. Derby is above his level just fortunate his ex manager and probably pal is giving him a chance not 1 other manager in the football league gave him (funny that) In reality if Clough was to go it wouldn't take long for Buxton to start dropping down the leagues again (that's if anyone wants him? Cloughys next club by any chance?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Buxton wouldn't play for Barcelona mate or anyone good for that matter hence the lack of offers. Derby is above his level just fortunate his ex manager and probably pal is giving him a chance not 1 other manager in the football league gave him (funny that) In reality if Clough was to go it wouldn't take long for Buxton to start dropping down the leagues again (that's if anyone wants him? Cloughys next club by any chance?) Could say the same for Keogh though, Keogh isn't much better - I don't get why people think he is, both are average but possess different qualities! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Buxton wouldn't play for Barcelona mate or anyone good for that matter hence the lack of offers. Derby is above his level just fortunate his ex manager and probably pal is giving him a chance not 1 other manager in the football league gave him (funny that) In reality if Clough was to go it wouldn't take long for Buxton to start dropping down the leagues again (that's if anyone wants him? Cloughys next club by any chance?) Strange that you should say that. He was playing in the football league way before he went to Burton Albion, he has 220+ football league appearances to his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMuffin Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Strange that you should say that. He was playing in the football league way before he went to Burton Albion, he has 220+ football league appearances to his name. Where he was relegated out of the league and released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramchope Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 We need a centre-half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Where he was relegated out of the league and released. Are you sure that he wasn't offered a new contract, or did you just choose to ignore that part? Let me help you with that - When Mansfield FC were relegated (not just Buxton) he was offered a new contract but wanted to stay in the football league. As it happens he joined Burton Albion (where he was outstanding) who that season came top of the Conference (largely due to NC) and he ended up back in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMuffin Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Are you sure that he wasn't offered a new contract, or did you just choose to ignore that part? Let me help you with that - When Mansfield FC were relegated (not just Buxton) he was offered a new contract but wanted to stay in the football league. As it happens he joined Burton Albion (where he was outstanding) who that season came top of the Conference (largely due to NC) and he ended up back in the league. He then had a trial with Crewe, Crewe FFS and they didn't think he was good enough for them and the only other offer he had was a conference team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMuffin Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 We are Derby Jake Buxton should be nowhere near the club. Unless he was working part time in the food bit down the concourses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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