kevinhectoring

The promotions he won Rotherham gave him a solid and long term base of support I’d imagine. And I think the Rotherham fan base don’t hold the view many of us do that div 1 is beneath us. So in Rotherham he was a popular figure who really was the boss. That’s why he has been careless when he talks about players imo Some of the criticism on here and at PP has been quite cutting. It’s a new thing for him. I think he may have found it hard to cope with and I think it leaves him a bit lost as to how to project himself in the media. The quirky chirpy cheeky chappy doesn’t play if the crowd are calling for his bobble hat

We want just one owner, and the right one

MSD lent 20m against the stadium and MM guaranteed the debt. MM refused to allow the stadium and the club to be ‘reunited’ unless MSD was repaid by someone other than him. That’s why DC bought the stadium for 23m - it was the amount needed to clear the MSD debt. Bold of you to put a value on the stadium. I’d hazard that if the club is out of business for prolonged period, the stadium is a liability. And that if the club is operational, the value of the stadium turns on the div we are in

Did you watch the lengthy ‘get to know the new owner’ video interview that was done a few weeks after the acquisition? Pretty sure the interviewer was Owen Bradley and that it was shot in what might have been DC’s ample back garden. [You’ll remember Mm refused to sell the stadium unless the purchaser paid at least enough to clear the MSD debt (about 23m if I recall). (The last valuation on the stadium at that stage was £80+m!) At that stage Kirchner clearly didn’t have enough to buy the stadium and the club, so DC stepped forward and took the stadium - one assumes for about £20m. Kirchner then retired from the process and DC was the only game in town, (apart from the Ashley vulture who had fallen out with q). DC then bought the club] Back to the interview: DC let it slip in a brief comment that he wasn’t originally intending to buy the club. But he added that once Kirchner was out of the process, the effect of DC buying the club on Q’s terms shored up the value of the stadium (which by then he had already purchased from MM) This was because buying the club on those terms maintained the club/stadium lessee as a going concern. They moved quickly on but it was gobsmacking that he said it, also that they broadcast it in those terms. I commented on it at the time on here. I’ve no idea whether that interview is still available somewhere. It’s worth a careful listen if it is

So allegedly DC won’t sell unless he continues to be involved. I wonder whether he’d sell the club but not the stadium. It was the stadium he bought first and he got it for a song - in fact at one stage he even indicated he’d bought the club in order to protect the value of the stadium !

Correct. It was the holding company that owed him the debt

Every team seeks a clear and effective strategy and all the rest of it. The stars align for most (normal) clubs about once in a generation, then they sink back to their level. Luton won’t be there for long (hopefully long enough to force Forest down. ) If we have serious money behind us it transforms our chances of climbing back and staying there. And US institutions/individuals are likely to bring good governance (despite what we have seen at Chelsea and despite Birmingham’s struggles under Rooney )

This below outlines the Ipswich ownership and recent developments. I agree with those (including you) who say good management and player recruitment is key. But you also need an owner who will splash the cash when the (strong) management team recommend it. Last summer Paul Warne told us DC was spending less that the EFL would allow because he wanted to contain operating losses. Fair enough. But not a recipe that will keep our fans happy A US pension fund would be a good owner for us, so would an existing owner of a US sports franchise. A billionaire from say China or India could be a much more difficult ride and might end in tears ………..,…,..,….,………………. IPSWICH TOWN: The new owners have certainly put their money where their mouths are to date, spending a lot on the squad and the club’s infrastructure. However, this has been part of a well though-out plan, as they have made some astute recruitment choices. As well as McKenna, they brought in former Bristol City chief executive, Mark Ashton, to lead operations off the pitch. Ashton spoke of the solid nature of Ipswich’s new investors, “In a period where people are questioning where money is coming from into clubs, we are so fortunate to have a financial institution, a US pension fund, that backs the football club.” For their part, the new owners believe that Ipswich Town represents an excellent investment opportunity, as ORG CEO Ed Schwartz explained, “Our view is that we've bought, at a lower value, an asset that has potential and history. Ipswich really was the perfect scenario for us.”

Catch all clause? It wasn’t a catch all clause that tripped us up. It was the rule that requires accounts to be in accordance with the FRSs. Gibson caused us plenty of damage but it was McGuire who got everyone interested in the amortisation issue in the first place EFL doesn’t ’accept accounts’. There’s nothing in the rules that allows it to. Even if it wanted to, it can’t. We tried that one out in our defence and it was batted away by the first panel (the one with the accountants on it). We also trotted out the line that EFL had approved our approach in advance and got the same result. Many experts say the ultimate decision was technically wrong. But we took a big risk and I doubt many neutrals were surprised by the result: it was naive for one club in 72 to adopt a preferential approach to accounting and expect to get away with it in a system that aims for a level playing field

Perhaps. In which case, no harm done And interesting to note how many think it’s a $hit idea

Fair enough. Will you say the same in 3 years time, if we are still in the third tier and if Portsmouth and Wrexham are about to join Forest in the PL ?

Mm and then Q were selling a can of worms and neither did it well. If DC targets suitable investors (owners of US sports franchises would be a good group to look at), he now has a clean club to sell. The (?only) complication is to agree how he gets back over time sufficient return on his outlay. (As others have said, this might be ongoing who knows?)

Used my fingers and it’s windy outside. I’d say we have a 10% chance of making autos, 30% of winning the play offs if we don’t. Both may be pessimistic if we get an energetic midfielder and a good forward in Jan. I know we’re on a decent run but our form is inconsistent

He will always be our hero. But here we are: a 60% chance of staying in this godforsaken league for at least another season. And as each year goes by, our club’s stock falls lower. And even when we get back to the championship, is DC the man to lead us to the PL? Nope. Portsmouth, owned by a Disney billionaire, have a good chance of getting there. And they’ll be competing with other clubs owned by billionaires, some flying high on parachute payments. Truth is, Ryan Reynolds is more likely than us to see his team in the PL any time soon. (Or is it Netflix’s team?) DC needs NOW to employ a smart well-connected agent to prepare a detailed proposal for a sale and to quietly and selectively market it to football mad billionaires across the globe. With middling PL clubs now going for 100s of millions, many might fancy a roll of the dice with us. If he does that successfully, he will go from hero to superhero. If he does not, many of us - including him - might not see our team in the top flight ever again.

Sloths only have 4 digits

I’m not a big fan of many stats but over a long period this is a good one eg for telling you how sharp you are in front of goal. ( Thought Collins looked pretty crisp in front of goal vs Fleetwood )

If DC is willing to splash the cash. And if Warne (assuming he is still around) can source the right players. Two quite big ‘ifs’

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Warne pointed in his post match to the financial benefits of a cup run. That might well have come up in a recent discussion with DC. Maybe that was behind his decision to stick with the more senior players, despite that they were knackered

SMALL way? But wasn’t it he who trolled through our accounts and announced to the world that our amortisation policy was questionable? Which led to Gibson jumping on the bandwagon…

Very very sad to read this. Sincere condolences to Daniel’s family. Today’s result very fitting

2-1 Collins frgs

Trump’s base requires him to support Israel unconditionally. It’s why he moved the embassy to Jerusalem, a devastating thing for the Palestinians. Another Trump presidency would be disastrous for any peace process

First thing I heard him say about Bird was that, when he met him, he was surprised how big he was. Sure, Bird might have thought nothing of it at all. Or he might have thought ‘Jesus he’s telling the world he’s looked at the tapes and thinks I play like a wimp’. Careless personal comment. The McGoldrick comment was the most concerning, because if I recall correctly there was just a suggestion Didzy was faking injury. Did Didzy just shrug it off? Maybe. Did he even hear it, who knows? But: careless, careless, careless. The description of his conversation with Bird about a possible transfer made me cringe, because Warne managed to give the impression that Bird’s loyalty to the club was paper thin, that he didn’t care whether he stayed or left. ‘Belittle’ is too narrow - I just mean anything that could lead a player to take the hump. As I said about 6 posts ago, I think he’s come to understand he needs a clutch between his ego and his brain Whether fans always hear these comments is not the point. The point is: players in common with most human beings listen very carefully to what their bosses say about them, especially if it’s said in public, and they are often proud, paranoid, prickly and prone to petulance. The best managers know how to use the microphone to motivate their men