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Albert

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    Albert got a reaction from ariotofmyown in Coronavirus   
    They have maintained this all along. The drop in cases that occurred after each lockdown has just been due to fairies and magic apparently. 
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    Albert got a reaction from GboroRam in Coronavirus   
    This speaks to the heart of what concerned me with some of the comments on here for the longest time, these undercurrents of it being 'overblown' or there being 'overreach' in the actions. We had people claiming that there was no second wave, while it was well underway. We had people claiming that the lockdowns were ineffective, when we had the data to show this wasn't the case. We had people claiming the UK couldn't have controlled this better, when the impact of restrictions on infection rates prove that the tools they had worked exactly the same as countries that have controlled it; the difference was always when and how the tools were used, not whether they actually worked. 
    The one that gets me most of all in this though is people who spent so long trying to say that it's really the lockdowns doing damage to lives, when it was the reticence to actually use them when they could have saved the country that has condemned people to this fate. The UK should never have been in a position where this perpetual lockdown, and panic vaccination program, was seen as the only way out. 
    The other one that's so very annoying has been this suggestion that there was 'no playbook for Covid'. Yeah, there was no playbook for Covid, but there was for rapidly spreading coronaviruses thanks to the SARS and MERS outbreaks, and epidemiology didn't spring into existence mid last year. It's no coincidence that the countries that were successful were the ones that followed recommendations developed through experience with diseases like SARS, and MERS. 
    Ultimately, those in charge deserve every ounce of blame for this fiasco though, and for the lockdowns people are now suffering. This is the consequences of their mismanagement. Ultimately, it seems that these are the very people who are least impacted by the restrictions, and are best equipped to weather this crisis though. The spin to claim that none of this is their fault is well under way though. I just hope, even if that effort is successful, lessons are learned from this. If such a crisis can happen once, it can happen again. While it could be 100, 200 years from now, it could also be within the next decade. 
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    Albert reacted to ariotofmyown in Coronavirus   
    As you admit, you have regularly got things wrong on Covid. The same mistakes that the fringe scientists and clickbait columnists have been making. I shudder to think how bad things could have been if they had been listened to more.
    My view on lockdowns is that they an unfortunately necessary last resort to prevent loads more deaths. A death toll that is already horrific, and higher than it should have been if the correct action had been taken at the correct time.
    Lockdowns have been a real struggle for nearly everyone and we will feel the effects for a long time to come. I have complete sympathy for people whose who have suffered really badly.
    I would be highly surprised if any of the "lockdown accepters" on here think any differently.
    The part of my post you ignored was how I find it insensitive for people to a) keep implying the government are just trying to control us for unspecific reasons or b) continually question if things are really that bad, in the face of overwhelming evidence and expert opinion, especially when previous such questioning was now openly admitted to be wrong.
     
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    Albert reacted to Gritstone Ram in Coronavirus   
    baalocks our record on the virus is nothing to shout about.
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    Albert got a reaction from ariotofmyown in Coronavirus   
    The irony is that it's the opposite of nationalism. 
    I don't bring it up because Australia is better, I bring it up because I know Australia isn't. The decision making of those in charge in the UK has been appalling, and given that I don't feel that Australia or New Zealand (or the others as mentioned previously) are inherently 'better', I am disappointed that the UK has ended up in such a horrible position, particularly when we have directly and clear evidence that the very tools needed to achieve similar results worked in the UK, they just weren't used properly. 
    When this is all said and done, I hope those responsible for the failed response front up to the inquiries into the decision making. But for now, the key is doing the best with the situation they have made for the country. 
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    Albert got a reaction from ariotofmyown in Coronavirus   
    If only there were other countries with successful quarantine models that had nearly a year of experience with them, with data backing what does and does not make a successful implementation. It would be even easier if these countries were formerly colonies, spoke the same language, had political systems modeled on the UK's, and still had close ties with the UK more generally...
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    Albert reacted to GboroRam in Coronavirus   
    Don't, you'll set them off in seethes of jealousy again.
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    Albert got a reaction from Bob The Badger in Coronavirus   
    If only there were other countries with successful quarantine models that had nearly a year of experience with them, with data backing what does and does not make a successful implementation. It would be even easier if these countries were formerly colonies, spoke the same language, had political systems modeled on the UK's, and still had close ties with the UK more generally...
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    Albert got a reaction from SKRam in Shame on Steve smith   
    Honestly, just looks like Steve Smith weirdness. He has a lot of eccentricities around his batting, and it looks like he came in to do some shadow batting, looking at the pitch. He could well have just been absent mindedly going through his routine. There's was no possible advantage to be gained scrubbing off marks, particularly given it was a drinks break. 
    Probably a good thing this talk is happening now too though, as hopefully it'll keep talk of him being named captain again post Paine down. 
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    Albert reacted to JoetheRam in Coronavirus   
    Supermarkets, offices, nurseries, shops, raves, weddings, funerals, people arriving from abroad...
    We have some restrictions on personal freedoms but lockdown it ain't.
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    Albert reacted to Spanish in Coronavirus   
    As you may know my daughter is there.  They expect a hit at some stage but they have given away the first vaccinations to the poorer pacific islands.  In all possible meanings I hope they got everything right.  Business wise my daughter is doing great all of us just hates the separation and worry about how long it will last
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    Albert reacted to EtoileSportiveDeDerby in Coronavirus   
    I knew that NZ got it right but did not quite realised how right. In fact, going by how wrong it's gone here and Europe and US, it is nothing short of miraculous. Two numbers, 25 deaths and GDP up 12%, bonkers.
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    Albert got a reaction from GboroRam in Coronavirus   
    Logistics of such is usually very low risk, as the key driver of infection is people in close contact, which isn't required for deliveries. There is limited evidence of surface transmission being a major driver of transmission. Given that so much of the economy is on its knees over this, having delivery still being viable for businesses is surely something anyone who supported keeping things open early should be supportive of. It's very low risk, but at least keeps something ticking over. 
    Speaking of the risks, even at the height of the Victorian second wave, borders closed across the board, freight was travelling across borders. Australia is hopelessly reliant on trucks for such for a myriad of historical reasons, but even having Victorian drivers crossing borders and staying elsewhere, it was linked to no new cases in other states. 
    Really, a lot of this is coming across as just randomly sniping at Eddie, and the topic of it seems weirdly stalkerish. 
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    Albert got a reaction from ariotofmyown in Coronavirus   
    Logistics of such is usually very low risk, as the key driver of infection is people in close contact, which isn't required for deliveries. There is limited evidence of surface transmission being a major driver of transmission. Given that so much of the economy is on its knees over this, having delivery still being viable for businesses is surely something anyone who supported keeping things open early should be supportive of. It's very low risk, but at least keeps something ticking over. 
    Speaking of the risks, even at the height of the Victorian second wave, borders closed across the board, freight was travelling across borders. Australia is hopelessly reliant on trucks for such for a myriad of historical reasons, but even having Victorian drivers crossing borders and staying elsewhere, it was linked to no new cases in other states. 
    Really, a lot of this is coming across as just randomly sniping at Eddie, and the topic of it seems weirdly stalkerish. 
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    Albert reacted to Eddie in Coronavirus   
    What about all the other commodities on my order that come from overseas? Are they not putting other people's lives at risk too? What about the Belgian beer that I order from Beers of Europe, whose warehouse is in Kings Lynn? I presume that they must be ok, because I'm not actually ordering them from Belgium but from good old Blighty.
    At the moment, I am shielding. That's something that I have been doing for 8 out of the last 10 months. If I felt that there was any chance that my actions of buying things - anything at all, according to you, because I can discern no difference in the risk - were prolonging my house arrest by one second, don't you think that I would desist with immediate effect?
    For goodness sake, think before you post.
     
     
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    Albert got a reaction from G STAR RAM in Coronavirus   
    So, after demanding what was essentially a retraction for something I did not say, you're now failing to take responsibility and not apologising for your mistake? Lovely hypocrisy mate. The irony is, of course, that you're the one who was deflecting with such comments in the first place. 
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    Albert reacted to Gaspode in Coronavirus   
    It's the scurge of modern society (and politics in particular) that statistics and the associated league tables rule above everything else.
    Ultimately Hancock wants to be able to crow about the number of people who've had the vacine so is pushing ahead with giving the first dose to as many as possible even if it means those people aren't as well protected as they should be.
    We can 'proudly' state that we're 3rd in the world league table when looking at the percentage of the populalation who've been given the vacine - ignoring the fact that those countries with lower percentage rates may well have done a far better job of protecting their most vulnerable citizens by following the guidelines properly. Still it's only the lives of a few old or sick folk they're gambling with so nothing serious to worry about.....
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    Albert got a reaction from EtoileSportiveDeDerby in Coronavirus   
    Which is all well and good, but really speaks to utter shambles of a situation the UK is in. 
    It never should have gotten to the point that the UK has to gamble on this. Doing so would be expected to reduce some deaths now, but the concern is that it could lead to a situation where the UK needs to redo the entire process to get the best outcome. That is what could put the UK far behind the rest of the World. 
    As to Australia not starting yet, personally I'm very comfortable with that, because nobody is dying of Covid-19, and few, if any, even have it. The situation is under control, and ultimately, as noted, doing the vaccination program once properly should be quicker than doing a half-measure job now, and then having to redo the entire process later. Let's hope it doesn't come to that for the UK. 
    Of course, if this strategy ends up working as effectively as countries that followed the recommendations, then all is good. The concern I see is the logistical concerns of having to redo the entire process due to making the vaccine less effective. 
    I understand why it's being done this way, I still think it's a gamble that risks extending this crisis even longer. Ultimately, the UK put itself in this position though, sadly. Let's hope it goes well. 
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    Albert got a reaction from JoetheRam in Coronavirus   
    Who possibly could have guessed that ignoring the advice, and effectively running a new phase 3 trial on your own population, could possibly go wrong. 
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    Albert got a reaction from Premier ram in Coronavirus   
    Who possibly could have guessed that ignoring the advice, and effectively running a new phase 3 trial on your own population, could possibly go wrong. 
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    Albert got a reaction from Eddie in Coronavirus   
    Who possibly could have guessed that ignoring the advice, and effectively running a new phase 3 trial on your own population, could possibly go wrong. 
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    Albert got a reaction from Chester40 in Coronavirus   
    Who possibly could have guessed that ignoring the advice, and effectively running a new phase 3 trial on your own population, could possibly go wrong. 
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    Albert got a reaction from EtoileSportiveDeDerby in Coronavirus   
    Who possibly could have guessed that ignoring the advice, and effectively running a new phase 3 trial on your own population, could possibly go wrong. 
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    Albert got a reaction from i-Ram in Shame on Steve smith   
    Honestly, just looks like Steve Smith weirdness. He has a lot of eccentricities around his batting, and it looks like he came in to do some shadow batting, looking at the pitch. He could well have just been absent mindedly going through his routine. There's was no possible advantage to be gained scrubbing off marks, particularly given it was a drinks break. 
    Probably a good thing this talk is happening now too though, as hopefully it'll keep talk of him being named captain again post Paine down. 
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    Albert got a reaction from I DONT MIND in Shame on Steve smith   
    So it seems you're the one who doesn't get the point. There's no reason to think that Smith was doing anything for 'gamesmanship' at all, it's just a thing he does. It was during a drinks break, the groundsmen had already swept and repainted, and Pant would later retake guard. He literally did it in front of the opposition players with the umpire watching him, and it's something he does several times a day, and there was never an advantage to be gained in marking centre. 
    The only difference is a feed happened to be showing that cam somewhere, and people, not knowing Smith, commented, leading to the peanut gallery getting involved. 
    Equally, it's unusual that Smith gets so tarred by one incident. Guess if you need to tar someone, making a mountain out of this kind of molehill is all you've got. 
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