Collo_DCFC11

First promotion for 17 years. First automatic promotion for nearly 30 years. Let’s counter your argument and say you think that finishing 3rd, playing good football but failing where it really matters is an achievement?
The arrogant attitude that anything less than running away with the title with triple figure points is a failure is why big clubs like Sunderland, Ipswich, Notts Forest etc got stuck down here for longer.
Less than two years ago we had about 6 players, no academy, no manager and had to play pre-season in temporary shirts because we didn’t even have kits. We were also put under restrictions, which still haven’t run out yet. So yes, I think getting automatic promotion in this timeframe is an achievement. A very good one, actually.

Done well for us when he's played, IMO.

Supporters were not motivated enough to turn up.
Players were not motivated enough to turn up. 
Seems no-one likes playing L2 opposition in front an an East stand-only crowd, whatever competition it's in.
We can have an inquest and/or a meltdown but I'd just forget about it and move on. Far bigger fish to fry this season and our league form is good. 
 
 

Injuries have caused a fair bit of disruption, to be fair. We bought wingbacks to play with a back 5, then they all got injured. We blend a bit of new youth into the team in Thompson and Rooney, they both get injured. We bring in a dynamic midfielder and striker on loan to offer different qualities, they both get injured.
So currently we've reverted to a back 4, and also reverted away from the pressing/crossing game Warne seems to favour due to not having an effective striker for that gameplan. When you consider all the above, it's kind of understandable we haven't got a settled XI that have clicked yet? 

You know that’s just plain wrong. Collins is past his best and in any case was and is a league one striker with all the flaws that entails. BUT One thing Collins does do is get in good positions. I can’t defend the missed chances but you know, he should have played Barks in the other week and got slated. Barks did the same but not a whisper. Not on in my book. 
Collo isn’t the answer to “Derby’s No 9” but he is a Ram, he’s our player, he works, turns up and does stuff (did anyone notice the the back flick exchange with NML last night ?  
 
I find the toxicity towards him from some quarters simply loathsome. We had the same over Bradley but he seems to have been forgiven by the mob (for now) The same mob that are wanting to crucify the manager and have zero patience and zero understanding of the meaning of support. Some supporters seem to revel in attacking our own for mistakes, bad luck or whatever other something they can use to focus their puerile attitude to sport.
Pompous ? Angry ? Opinionated ? Yes .. I am guilty of all of them but when a player has our shirt on I back them, I don’t set out to trip them up or rejoice in mishaps. And no .. it isn’t “bants” or a “larf” 

Shame to see so-called fans labelling our own player as 'dogshit' and other choice terms. By all means call him out on the game, but is the abuse really necessary? He's a Derby player after all. Some on here might like to consider how they'd feel if they were being assessed in such charming terms for their efforts at their place of work. Whatever you think of his ability, he's still a Rams player and entitled to a modicum of respect from us fans as such. He's also 5 from 13 in the league this season, which is far from the horror story some of the drama queens on here portray. Hard to imagine, other spitting on the badge or flat out throwing it in, what would actually warrant terms like 'dogshit', but missing an easy square pass certainly isn't one of them. And this after we've won the game too!
Likewise Exeter - without fail, every time we win, we get a chorus of "well (insert club name) were by far the worst team we've faced all millennium" type comments. So f****** tedious. Last night, Oxford were beaten by a team languishing in the bottom 3 and Portsmouth could not muster a goal in 95 minutes against the mighty Cambridge, which more sensible heads might think tells you all you need to know about this league. The fact is, we're a league 1 team (as was evidenced by our failure to secure promotion last season) and right now we're playing like one, as often as not. The very same people who sagely pontificated on how hard it would be to get out of this league, are some the chippiest ***** on here now we're struggling. Get in the bin!
As for the game, the result was never in doubt. I thought we looked comfortable, pretty much throughout and were more than good value for the 2-0. They tried to play football, which was a pleasant surprise, but we were very good without the ball last night, harrying and pressing well and you could see their last vestiges of hope evaporate with the second goal. On the rare occasions they enjoyed a little possession, we kept our shape brilliantly and never really gave them too much hope. I think we look as good as any team I've seen in the league defensively speaking and we have a decent quality midfield if we can somehow keep Max healthy of mind and body and in good form. Still short of that explosive goal threat, though if we play like we did last night, we've enough to trouble most sides.
As for the result, it could and maybe should have been 4-0 and without the interventions of the myopic linesman, it might well have been. Surely that is worthy of more than begrudging praise, if any. Let's be honest here, there's no such thing as a 'routine win' for a side with our current home record! With 'routine' help from the officials, more often than not we conspire to turns 3 points into 1, or none at all, so let's not pretend otherwise, eh! 
Moving forwards, I hope that this is not another false dawn and that the attacking line-up is deployed against all but the best teams in the league, where a more circumspect approach is perhaps understandable. While I think we're a long way off Championship quality right now, we do have a strongish squad for L1 and we really need to be ensconcing ourselves firmly in the top 6 sooner, rather than later. Meet that milestone and we can then set about trying to reel in Oxford and / or Pompey which is a far from impossible feat if we can just add some consistency to our game.
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Do we have to use every available thread to slag off Warne, good grief.

Looked at a different way, he is a Championship (or above) player for many years and has taken a step down.
The McGoldrick factor is in play, as they have experience and they are objectively better players.  Waghorn might struggle in Championship, but take a step down and suddenly he appears to have improved.
I suspect had we been in Championship last year, McGoldrick would have been ordinary.  

I'm surprised that Brighton are interested. I thinK Cashin is a talented young player, but his ceiling is the Championship imo. He's not a natural ball-playing centre back, he's not particularly tall or fast. I don't really see him as the type of player Brighton go for (a Levi Colwill for example). 
Would be sad to see him go, but for £3m+ (and potential loan back), I'd shake their hand and take the money. 

If you wouldn't be happy with this signing, then I'm not sure what you can realistically hope for....

He scored 17 goals for a team that got promoted out of this division, how exciting do you want it?

Just to chime in here and say I like the idea of letting the players decide.
In fact, I would go as far as saying it's a great idea.
They are all professional footballers, most will have played in numerous teams under various captains.
They will know individually more than anyone what they want from their captain and vote accordingly.
As a fan, I couldn't care less who gets the armband, it's not going to affect my life in any way other than see them lead the team out the tunnel.
The captain announcement is on par with the squad numbers announcement. Just a formality. 

The criticism of Warne in the transfer market is rubbish.
Can anyone name me one of his permanent signings who has been rubbish?
Thank the Lord we now have someone who does due diligence before he signs someone I.e. actually watches them playing in games, checks their character to make sure they will fit in with the rest of the team. Not prepared to pay over the odds for someone who will not improve what we already have.
Over the last 10 years the list is as long as your arm of players we have purchased for exorbitant fees (Blackman, Anya, etc etc etc), fuelled no doubt by power crazy chairmen desperate to get to the promised land. Look where it got us - just remember that horrible, sinking feeling just over 12 months ago, when our Club was about to exist no longer.
Give me Clowes, Warne and a bit of realism every time!!!!
 
 

Conversely, playing further forward with more freedom, and potentially scoring more goals, could be more helpful to his career progression.

Liam Thompson is underated imo

Agree with both of these.  At the risk of sounding like a stuck record, we’ve filled gaps in key positions.  The centre of defence is stronger.  We’ve signed wing backs, which in turn has strengthened the midfield as Smith and Sibley are now allowed to play in more natural positions.  Washington is a 1 in 3 striker at this level but he’ll stretch play and create space for Collins, the number 10’s to run into.  We’ll be more of a threat at set pieces, an area where we’ve been weak for a few seasons.
We now have a really strong defence.  This will bring confidence into the midfield who will be able to focus more on playing forward rather than leaving gaps behind knowing the defence has it covered.  This will have a knock-on effect on the strikers in allowing them to be more advanced.

I don't see us getting an goal scorer like we had with Didzy last year but instead trying to get more goals all round the pitch. Bradley and Nelson will certainly help with that from set pieces. Hopefully our wing backs will also chip in with a few then we can have a say three centre fowards averaging 15 goals each. 

Genuinely baffles me some of the stuff I read on here and on Twitter. For what it's worth, to answer the question, I think we have obviously got a bigger budget than last season and so far I believe Warne has spent it very, very well. We are not be spending huge fees on players or making glamour signings but we are building a seriously formidable TEAM and squad at this level with the right characters, some quality and players that will fit our system.
Bradley and Nelson are incredible signings at this level. Big, strong, mobile (Nelson, not Bradley as much) a threat from set pieces and the physical, ugly men that Warne alluded to in the off season. Ward and Elder are arguably the two best full backs/wing backs in the league and add quality and a real attacking intent to our back line. I predict the pair of them will provide a hatful of assists.
Wilson I haven't seen as much of but everything I have read and seen, I believe it is somewhat of a coup and could turn out to be a very shrewd signing under the radar. Washington I feel is our most underrated signing of the window and one I can't believe our fans are baulking at signing. Stats can be so deceiving sometimes and just because he doesn't score 30 a season, he is 'underwhelming'. I have seen him play on a large number of occasions and always liked what I have seen. As Warne has alluded to, he runs in behind and stretches play (can't remember the last striker we've had that does this), presses tirelessly and will bring more goals out of the rest of the team; I feel he will really complement what we've got and end up as an unexpected fan's favourite.
Digressing slightly but it also makes me laugh how people think we should be signing May, Nombe and Smith etc. because someone on Twitter says they have had a good season, despite 90% of our fanbase probably having only seen them play once or twice. Has it ever occured to us that Warne doesn't want them? Also keep seeing Clarke-Harris linked; although I think our budget is bigger, I do not think we are going to shell out the 2-3 million pounds that it would take to land him; plus, in my opinion, he isn't all that anyway. Scores a lot of goals granted but feel he is a very limited flat track bully and we could do better for less money (I for one would like us to get Godden, if it is realistic - would be a very good signing).
A very long winded way of saying I think we do have a decent budget, are currently spending it very well and Warne is building a very, very good squad with a few more to come, whilst also not spunking money on rubbish and thinking about the club's long term future.

Hearing the noise Warne’s made about the striker market’s, there’s been an inevitability this summer to us signing a Rhodes/Sharp type. 
Understand the calls for youth/pace but it doesn’t sound financially like we’re in a position to add that expensive skillset to the squad
Hence why we may have been priced out of Alfie May who IMO would have given us everything we need this season
The team is closer to suiting Warne now and it feels like we’ve built from the back - the three of Bradley, Cashin and Nelson is a defence that’s possibly the best in the league on paper, Fozzy and Rooney fantastic back up as well.
Looks like he’s knocked it out the park with the wing backs, the midfield is solid now Smith is playing his proper position and he has his hard working runners up top in Washington/Collins
We’re set up to get away with carrying a typical poacher/goalscorer, funnily enough Jordan Rhodes would have been the easy example from back in the day - could have a bad game but will often only need one chance
Ideally, I’d love a young, pacey striker from the lower leagues who just needs playing time in the right side to become that £10 million plus striker we’ve seen Peterborough/Burnley churn out and sell on for profit…
However, you can see the thinking on our budget we’ll settle for someone who simply takes their chances.
We’ll be solid, we’ll put good deliveries into the box every game and if you put in someone like Rhodes, he’ll get a solid goal return. 
Warne still wants a 10 and a LWB, if he can bring those in (loans?) and still add Rhodes - that’s decent business 

I would not consider Washington and Collins to be similar, but I can certainly see them developing a partnership. I'm hoping the team and the style of play that Warne is planning is one that wins matches. Some tinkering, yes, but built around this squad he has assembled, with his preferred wing-backs and lots more shots from outside the area. I don't think Manchester City would want a speedy Vardy signing just in case Haaland is ineffective, similarly with Kane at Spurs etc.
If there was a noticeable weakness last season it was the inability to convert hundreds of corners and free-kicks in the opposition box. The delivery was always excellent, but the threat was rare. Cashin, Bradley and Nelson will be a different proposition and Washington and Collins [and Rhodes] can feed off any knockdowns, that is their strength. I am wishing for an extra 15 goals to come via that this season and the front two players to deliver 30 goals collectively, whatever the combination.

Number 6 is a very mis-informed point. His Rotherham sides that have been previously promoted have frequently pumped teams 3,4 and 5 and been the highest scoring teams in the league.
There is a bit of a myth in football nowadays that pretty and exciting football is passing around the back and having a million touches before the ball goes into the net. I would much rather watch my side get the ball forward quickly, be more direct and play more aggressive football. I would enjoy my Saturday evening pints after watching us score lots of goals in that manner whether people find this 'attractive' or not.
I think a lot of fans are mis-diagnosing last season as Warneball when we quite frankly, didn't have the tools to do it and he said on a number on occasions that he wasn't happy with how we were playing and it isn't what we wants to see from his side.
Judge him from this season and quote me if you want. We will get promoted this year and we will score lots of goals.

Number 6 is a very mis-informed point. His Rotherham sides that have been previously promoted have frequently pumped teams 3,4 and 5 and been the highest scoring teams in the league.
There is a bit of a myth in football nowadays that pretty and exciting football is passing around the back and having a million touches before the ball goes into the net. I would much rather watch my side get the ball forward quickly, be more direct and play more aggressive football. I would enjoy my Saturday evening pints after watching us score lots of goals in that manner whether people find this 'attractive' or not.
I think a lot of fans are mis-diagnosing last season as Warneball when we quite frankly, didn't have the tools to do it and he said on a number on occasions that he wasn't happy with how we were playing and it isn't what we wants to see from his side.
Judge him from this season and quote me if you want. We will get promoted this year and we will score lots of goals.

Genuinely baffles me some of the stuff I read on here and on Twitter. For what it's worth, to answer the question, I think we have obviously got a bigger budget than last season and so far I believe Warne has spent it very, very well. We are not be spending huge fees on players or making glamour signings but we are building a seriously formidable TEAM and squad at this level with the right characters, some quality and players that will fit our system.
Bradley and Nelson are incredible signings at this level. Big, strong, mobile (Nelson, not Bradley as much) a threat from set pieces and the physical, ugly men that Warne alluded to in the off season. Ward and Elder are arguably the two best full backs/wing backs in the league and add quality and a real attacking intent to our back line. I predict the pair of them will provide a hatful of assists.
Wilson I haven't seen as much of but everything I have read and seen, I believe it is somewhat of a coup and could turn out to be a very shrewd signing under the radar. Washington I feel is our most underrated signing of the window and one I can't believe our fans are baulking at signing. Stats can be so deceiving sometimes and just because he doesn't score 30 a season, he is 'underwhelming'. I have seen him play on a large number of occasions and always liked what I have seen. As Warne has alluded to, he runs in behind and stretches play (can't remember the last striker we've had that does this), presses tirelessly and will bring more goals out of the rest of the team; I feel he will really complement what we've got and end up as an unexpected fan's favourite.
Digressing slightly but it also makes me laugh how people think we should be signing May, Nombe and Smith etc. because someone on Twitter says they have had a good season, despite 90% of our fanbase probably having only seen them play once or twice. Has it ever occured to us that Warne doesn't want them? Also keep seeing Clarke-Harris linked; although I think our budget is bigger, I do not think we are going to shell out the 2-3 million pounds that it would take to land him; plus, in my opinion, he isn't all that anyway. Scores a lot of goals granted but feel he is a very limited flat track bully and we could do better for less money (I for one would like us to get Godden, if it is realistic - would be a very good signing).
A very long winded way of saying I think we do have a decent budget, are currently spending it very well and Warne is building a very, very good squad with a few more to come, whilst also not spunking money on rubbish and thinking about the club's long term future.

Genuinely baffles me some of the stuff I read on here and on Twitter. For what it's worth, to answer the question, I think we have obviously got a bigger budget than last season and so far I believe Warne has spent it very, very well. We are not be spending huge fees on players or making glamour signings but we are building a seriously formidable TEAM and squad at this level with the right characters, some quality and players that will fit our system.
Bradley and Nelson are incredible signings at this level. Big, strong, mobile (Nelson, not Bradley as much) a threat from set pieces and the physical, ugly men that Warne alluded to in the off season. Ward and Elder are arguably the two best full backs/wing backs in the league and add quality and a real attacking intent to our back line. I predict the pair of them will provide a hatful of assists.
Wilson I haven't seen as much of but everything I have read and seen, I believe it is somewhat of a coup and could turn out to be a very shrewd signing under the radar. Washington I feel is our most underrated signing of the window and one I can't believe our fans are baulking at signing. Stats can be so deceiving sometimes and just because he doesn't score 30 a season, he is 'underwhelming'. I have seen him play on a large number of occasions and always liked what I have seen. As Warne has alluded to, he runs in behind and stretches play (can't remember the last striker we've had that does this), presses tirelessly and will bring more goals out of the rest of the team; I feel he will really complement what we've got and end up as an unexpected fan's favourite.
Digressing slightly but it also makes me laugh how people think we should be signing May, Nombe and Smith etc. because someone on Twitter says they have had a good season, despite 90% of our fanbase probably having only seen them play once or twice. Has it ever occured to us that Warne doesn't want them? Also keep seeing Clarke-Harris linked; although I think our budget is bigger, I do not think we are going to shell out the 2-3 million pounds that it would take to land him; plus, in my opinion, he isn't all that anyway. Scores a lot of goals granted but feel he is a very limited flat track bully and we could do better for less money (I for one would like us to get Godden, if it is realistic - would be a very good signing).
A very long winded way of saying I think we do have a decent budget, are currently spending it very well and Warne is building a very, very good squad with a few more to come, whilst also not spunking money on rubbish and thinking about the club's long term future.

Number 6 is a very mis-informed point. His Rotherham sides that have been previously promoted have frequently pumped teams 3,4 and 5 and been the highest scoring teams in the league.
There is a bit of a myth in football nowadays that pretty and exciting football is passing around the back and having a million touches before the ball goes into the net. I would much rather watch my side get the ball forward quickly, be more direct and play more aggressive football. I would enjoy my Saturday evening pints after watching us score lots of goals in that manner whether people find this 'attractive' or not.
I think a lot of fans are mis-diagnosing last season as Warneball when we quite frankly, didn't have the tools to do it and he said on a number on occasions that he wasn't happy with how we were playing and it isn't what we wants to see from his side.
Judge him from this season and quote me if you want. We will get promoted this year and we will score lots of goals.