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    Gary Rowett

    Wish Tony Mowbray the best with whatever he's having to deal with. He always seemed a good sort.
  2. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/sport/football/article/football-nottingham-forest-points-deduction-decision-financial-rules-gkfpnjmcg "An appeal by Nottingham Forest against the four-point deduction imposed for breaching the Premier League’s financial rules would run the risk of the sanction being increased." Is there any way to launch an appeal on behalf of someone else? If not, is anyone able to forge Marinakis' handwriting?
  3. By my count, that'll make him the 6th person to have managed them this season Eustace > Rooney > Spooner (interim) > Mowbray > Venus (while Mowbray's been on sick leave) > Rowett
  4. Forest's claims about being unfairly disadvantaged as a promoted Championship club would certainly hold more weight if they didn't also come out against distributing more pay to EFL clubs less than a week ago: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13188487/Premier-League-clubs-shot-EFL-deal.html
  5. Pretty sure that's the Everton fans...
  6. So having read through the decision, I think this works as a quick summary of why it was 4 points: Commission found that the "entry point" for any "significant" breach of the spending limits is 3 points In Everton's case this was increased up to 6 points for two aggravating factors: One being the scale of the breach (£19.5m, or 19% of their threshold), the other being that they had been found in their appeal to have supplied some "incorrect" information to the Premier League (which the Premier League originally presented as Everton "misleading" them. The finding of "incorrect" rather than "misleading" is important). In Forest's case, the aggravating factor was solely the scale of their breach, albeit this was both numerically and proportionally much higher than Everton's (£34.5m, or 57% of their threshold; alternatively, a breach 77% higher than Everton's). While the Premier League argued that this should correspond to a 5 point increase in the deduction, raising the points deduction up to a total of 8 points, the commission disagreed. This was in large part because the Premier League has no "fixed formula" for points deductions based on the size of a breach, and that an insolvency event would result in a 9 point deduction. There's a lot of explanation for why they came to this decision, but effectively, the commission concluded that, as Forest's breach was a "significant" breach not a "major" breach (i.e. one involving insolvency), the absolute upper threshold that any club who makes a "significant" breach would expect (without major and unusual aggravating circumstances) would be 8 points, as insolvency would represent the absolute worst case scenario for failing to adhere to profit and sustainability. They also concluded that Forest were unlikely to be the largest ever Premier League breach, and therefore they shouldn't be punished at the absolute highest end of the scale. Instead, the commission decided that the level of breach should correspond to a 3 point increase to the deduction, raising to total deduction to 6 points. Forest were found to have had two mitigating factors in their favour: that they admitted the breach early on, and that they complied with the Premier League. As such, the commission reduced their deduction by 2 points, taking the total deduction to 4 points. So, basically, you can overspend by as much as you want in the Premier League, and as long as you don't do anything too egregious alongside it, you'll lose no more than 8 points.
  7. Did have to smirk at this. Doesn't exactly bode well for the quality of these commissions if they couldn't even correctly figure out 38*3:
  8. https://www.premierleague.com/news/3936397 "Nottingham Forest was referred to an independent Commission on 15 January, following an admission by the club that it had breached the relevant PSR threshold of £61 million by £34.5 million" How the hell is a £34.5m breach a 4 point deduction!?
  9. Athletic reporting it should be Monday
  10. Absolutely insane end to this Wolverhampton/Coventry game. Coventry lead until the 83rd minute, Wolverhampton scored twice to take the lead by the 88th minute, only for Coventry to score twice in injury time to win.
  11. https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-wycombe-rob-couhig-7512397 "We have arrived at an economic money settlement that was conditional on how much their assets ultimately got sold for." "We are making our economic plans with the assumption that the money we got...and I cannot tell you the amount, but I can tell you it was well worth the money we spent to go get it."
  12. Don't think it's the comeback he thinks it is to say that even his friends and family will be celebrating when he's gone.
  13. I think he still might be. They might be buying the training ground for £20-25m, but I'm sure he'll sell it for closer to its original £50m cost when he sells the club. One last money spinner before he hopefully pisses off for good.
  14. Name a more iconic duo than Wycombe Wanderers and exploiting other clubs' financial crises: https://theathletic.com/5339939/2024/03/13/wycombe-reading-training-ground-bearwood-park/ Pretty much puts the breaks on any possible takeover, as that was the last real asset they had left
  15. Yeah, why is it always them complaining?
  16. Might have got out of the FFP charge if that happened
  17. Just noticed that Forest's right-back, Neco Williams, wears the number 7 and, honestly, they deserve to be relegated just for that.
  18. Don't you hate it when a player that should have been sent off goes on to score? 😁
  19. I think the other thing with our points tally in that season is that the other teams in the league were generally strong. You look at the other teams near the bottom that season, there's Reading that finished 8th the season prior, Fulham that finished 7th the following season and were Europa League runners up the season after, Bolton that had been a 6th-8th place team for 4 seasons prior. We were rubbish, but also, importantly, much more rubbish than even the second most rubbish team in the league that season. Might just be opinion, but there's some pretty naff teams in the Premier League this season.
  20. Blades have done it 3 times in their last 3 home games (4 in 4 if you include the FA Cup as well)
  21. Wonder if Clatts has got a Forest tattoo to go with his other ones
  22. I imagine Marinakis chasing Tierney down the tunnel looked like Raiders of the Lost Ark
  23. All joking aside, can we get some police protection for Paul Tierney? Keep him away from any bakeries.
  24. I'm getting a lot of use out of this reaction image lately
  25. Would love to see Marinakis' reaction to that goal
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