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Well he wouldn't be coming here for the wages, I thought everyone says we're under EFL restrictions. Oh and he won't be coming here for the service either, he'd join TJJ on the wing! 😄

"We should be able to attract a decent striker to the club" doesnt mean we will, decent strikers would they want to play for warne? Unless if its just a target man. I know alot like the ball  into feet not having to drag out wide to receive the ball or chasing lose balls

Warne opted to use Mendez-Laing in the middle rather than playing John-Jules there. What hope does an academy player have?

What have Warne and Thomas been doing all season in preparation for the January window?
What does Thomas bring to the party, seeing as Warnes signings tend to be people who he has managed before? Or in the case of CBT, well known in league 1 anyway.
Do we scout in Scotland, Ireland, or even League 2 and non league? 🤔 
 

It's just a very typical January window to be fair.
We got ourself within touching distance of top 2, a couple of good signings and we could have kicked on.
But, just like last year, we fail to strengthen the areas we need. 
Within a couple of weeks top 2 is looking a tough ask and even Barnsley behind us are a point behind with a game in hand. We have arsed it up Big time.
Our number 1 striker target, we can't afford 🤣 ridiculous.

Another sensible question I’d ask would be “what consideration is there to vary the tactics?” Backed up with a summary of Warne’s own comments around gas out football, crosses, get the ball forward quickly.
I’m very much still patient in my stance with Warne and the club, but not ignorant to some of the issues and concerns. His gas out football works to a point against certain opposition and garners good results, hence our league position. It’s the lack of adaptability or variation that concerns me. Where we have got players missing and the squad is stretched why not adapt? Be less open, more solid, look after the ball and play patiently until we can see an opportunity rather than forcing it and being exposed on the counter. 
 

I get people like him for being nice but it does my head in hes too nice its like hes being fake sometimes you have to have abit aggression to be a football manager and he doesnt its why refs are crap all the time, you get someone like warnock and it changes 

I dont know, but my son has played on the indoor pitch at moor farm loads of times and i can tell you now its not windy in there 🤣

I feel warne knows if we go up we will struggle, we are not good enough for the championship how many times has warne said himself that we wasnt our best? Thats why everytime we get close we drop off again. I agree reading are a very good side i said before the game it would be tough but i didnt think we would be as poor as we were, after the weekend i didnt think we could get worse but we did

He doesn't deserve to be called a charlatan or gym teacher, that's very harsh. We can't argue that he is very successful at this level of football. With this budget and calibre of players, we should be a top 3 team in this league comfortably regardless of manager. And we are challenging for promotion based on our position and points.
I'm not sure why I can't warm to Warne though. Is it because I have been used to watching a certain style of football for years and now we have gone back to good old fashioned "hit it wide and cross it"? I don't think he is maximising the best out of the squad and financial resources at his disposal. There is a sense when I watch the team we are winning purely because we have better players, nothing that Warne is doing tactically to win us matches. It feels like the bare minimum to win and a number of supporters don't want bare minimum. We should be dominating and the team are not doing it regularly. The league is there for the taking and we keep missing opportunities. 

I would have kept Liam, young, up and coming Manager who knows what he wants in terms of style of play. A bit like the Saints and Ipswich managers.

I doubt it. He's got his own view on how he likes to manage a team and as noble as that is, it becomes harder to enforce and maintain when you try it with bigger clubs with more variables, more fans and higher expectations. 

It's definitely too soon to smash the panic buttons. However, the way Warne sets the team up means we struggle when we're lacking squad depth - we saw it at the start of this season, we had it when we didn't rotate the squad as much as Warne would have liked last season, and we're seeing it now (6-8 players had been unavialble). It doesn't help that a significant number of signigns are injury prone or have a recent history of not playing much. 
Warne needs to trust the players on the fringes of his squad more (we said the same last season). There's no reason for players such as Ward to have just 30 minutes of football over a 4 week period when he's fully fit and other players are starting to struggle with fatigue a little bit. The use of players such as DBrown and DRobinson at the end of games needs to happen more frequently in periods when we do have a mini injury crisis as it helps keep the senior player fresher. More games for Brown earlier in the season would have meant he'd now feel comfortable playing more of a part now when we only have 1 fit forward. Instead we'll now have to rely on Collins playing full 90s or move Mendez-laing upfront and weaken ourselves on the wings.

How many points have we thrown away tho? We could be miles top get it in your head we have one of the strongest squads in the league we should be up there its simple 

Didn't Robinson play at Burton last season? But anyway there wasn't much physicality on show last night either.

As GoC said he chose to play TJJ wide last night and put NML through the middle, what chance would our Academy youngsters have?

I don’t know. Warne probably doesn’t either as he barely gave any of our academy lads a chance in the EFL Trophy. A big opportunity missed to check if these players are ready in a non pressure situation.

I dont know, but my son has played on the indoor pitch at moor farm loads of times and i can tell you now its not windy in there 🤣

I dont know, but my son has played on the indoor pitch at moor farm loads of times and i can tell you now its not windy in there 🤣

Warnes tactics The only midfielder doing anything and because bird and hourihane are undroppable like alot of players in warnes team he has to replace tommo because why? 

We never win handsomely, thanks for cheering me up👍 i hope your right

I think even Phill Brown would struggle to not finish top 2 with this squad. Someone like Warnock would jump at the chance of managing us thhrough to the end of the season, and it's easy to see him gettting a lot more out of us than we've seen

Well I got lucky last night! Woo Hoo! But only in that I didn't watch the match! But I have done my penance by reading this thread all the way through, so now I am as miserable as everybody else!
Someone said that Warne in one of his interviews admitted to by-passing the midfield, and that he only wanted the midfield players to have two touches of the ball - one to control it, and the second to move the ball on , either to where it came from, or out to the wings. I appreciate the desire to get the ball forwards quickly, and is why I enjoyed the change from Rosenior-ball, which was based on boring the opposition  to sleep then attacking them while they were indisposed. And by-passing midfield is the problem, probably in more ways than one. If you remember when we went to Cheltenham, who were the weakest team in League One, who hadn't scored, and who had a non-existent midfield, so Warne decided to by-pass the midfield that wasn't there!!! Duhhh!!! And so caused the debacle of that match. It, and the matches immediately before and after triggered the fan response, which got everyone bollocked for not licking Warne's feet all the time. And suddenly there was a change, starting with the Lincoln (?) cup match where we played really well, as if he just sent the team out and let them get on with doing their thing! And we embarked on the good run, where we started to involve the  midfield, and played the ball at ground level, and Collins started to put himself in the penalty are instead of out on the wings.
Up until we were completely outplayed by Peterborough, since when we have slowly reverted back to what caused the fan outrage again. Did Warne use Peterborough's superiority to say "Right! That's it. We got outplayed, so its back to doing it my way"? Pure conjecture, but hopefully you can see where the idea fits in. So apparently all we did at Reading was get the ball out wide and lump the crosses in to our resident absentee striker/general offside man, and may have pointed out that all they had to do was double up in the flanks and Derby were like the proverbial Dalek at the foot of the stairs. Duhhh!!!! Again!
Re the lack of passion and overall sloppy play: we have seen it from time to time, especially early on in the season, but not to the levels described last night. Could it be that the players are hacked off being forced to play sub-football, because they know they are capable of so much more? When you have Bird and Hourihane who are capable of playing a bit, but who are forced to just boot the ball to the wings or simply up the field? Did any of you see de Bruyne's return after injury in the match against Newcastle United? He came on midway through the second half and transformed the match. We could sign three de Bruynes and you'd never know they were on the pitch because of our abuse of midfield! Is that why so many people are fed up of Bird's apparent invisibility? (Now there's a conundrum!) Are the players therefore on a go slow in protest?
A few weeks ago I was right on the edge of "Warne Out", but his apparent change of heart after the fans kicked off, and the good run made me shift back to backing the guy. If we carry on with this non-football against Cheltenham, I won't just move back to "Warne Out", I will be thinking of setting up a Crowd-fund to get him out. I am that cross and disappointed. Imagine who angry I might be if I'd had to watch the match as well!

Wow that's some statement yoof what's it based on...2 away games?, Teams have a wobble or in Crewtons mind a "Wibble 😁", I was really hoping we'd be sitting on top of the division this Morning, It would have been nice to see for all the hard work that's been put in the last couple of months...but alas we're not.
There's no magic wand where football is concerned, Players have to want it, I believe last night they wanted it, Unfortunately a team called Reading put the mockers on their plans, A Reading that are in turmoil but a Reading team that has a pretty good performance rating this last 6 games.
I was disappointed last night...so much so that I turned down a free ticket for Saturdays game, I'm a bit like you I can get wound up by results and performances, PW commented after the Burton game when asked "have we a few more gears to go through" PW said "maybe we are at 5th gear now" so this is it, We're a league1 team with League1 players that sometimes play well and sometimes play bad, Just because we get the top end of 26/28k home gates and we have EPL standard ground and training facilities, We need better players to go with it...ATM we have a squad capable of getting to the play offs at the very least...time will tell if Warnes happy to stay down with the dead men 😉 

Could Paul explain the reasoning for dropping a goal keeper who hadn't really put a foot wrong for 18 months.  And what does he think that would do for said goal keepers confidence?