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Your saying pretty much that Isreal engineered a regime into power in gazza that could kill Israeli people so they could have an excuse to take over gazza ,, purposely sacrificing the lives of its own citizens,,,is that not what you are saying ? Have I read that wrong ? im pretty sure you are one who has given me stick as some tin foil hat wearer when I’m very cynical on subjects and done the same to others , if your honestly telling me I’m mistaken and you have never done that then you have my apologies 🤷🏻‍♂️

Always makes me smile seeing people who ridicule people as conspiracy theorists happily promote conspiracy theories 😂 next you’ll be telling us the White House put terrorists on planes for 9/11 so they could ride the wave of fear and anger to achieve its aims , what’s the lives of a few thousand home grown plebs here and there

What do want to go and grass me up for 🤷🏻‍♂️

Too much to hope for a repeat of last weeks rival’s results 🤷🏻‍♂️

This hating on anyone will be outlawed in Scotland now so us jocks won’t be able to post on this thread anymore ,, just in case we get a knock on the door ,,,, yes I know I live in England but I wouldn’t put anything past the snp 😂

To be fair I think the crux is that with spend , budget and squad LR is not over performing or setting the world alight , seems a lot of draws and not a great goal difference, I like the bloke but in fairness wasn’t enthused by the football we played under him though short period , lots seem to think warne is only scraping the bare min from our squad and LR would be getting far more but reality is the jury is still out on what LR will achieve as a manager

I’m with you ,, but the wife seems to like it

A win was everything yesterday and it was warne and the players job to get that win ,,, bugger all else mattered, it was a tight first half where we edged it and got the lead , second half started and boy was I frustrated for a while , said to my wife that we seemed to want to play like we are 3-0 up and game over , we gave them space to play and like everyone else I was shouting at them to wake up and press on to them but soon got the nagging feeling we were happy to let them play and have space in areas they wernt hurting us , get in our shape and not chase everything, dive in and get played round then hit them on the break , we may not like it at times , we may wrongly feel we are being massively outplayed at times but by god it was a mature performance, free from the naivety that has plagued us at times , paul warne ? ,,,,like him or not ( i really like him and want him to be given the chance to see how much more he’s got) those who come on here and call him a clown , a kick and rush merchant without a clue or even a thought on tactics are very very wide of the mark , warne and his team may not always get it right ( who does ) but make no mistake, there’s a lot of hard work and thought going into how to beat each team we come up against , they are not clueless kick and rush merchants, you can’t and don’t have to get it right every time , you have to get it right more often than not and enough times over a season to do well and even get promoted, at the end of games Paul warne is the one I have a main eye on going round the ground to applaud fans and hope he’s really enjoying it , I want to see him start the bounce if and or when we are promoted with the biggest smile on his face as I’m pretty sure he will when he feels he’s achieved something, the target promotion not a fleeting moment of a good win , that’s for us fans and the players ,he’s got a job to finish ,, you can bet he isn’t taking the players out for a wallet busting pxss up when the job is nowhere near done yet ,,, that’s what I see and like in warne and his team, oh and another day I really enjoyed in a season im really enjoying,,,, live in the now folks is my advise🤷🏻‍♂️

I know what you mean in terms of perhaps feeling we don’t have the right to say we miss him because we never met him in person but I’ve come to the conclusion that places like this forum really do become communities and you do get to know people if you stay around long enough and post on a wider range of topics , I too miss the lad and he will be a massive part of what I remember about this season , a season I am really enjoying for many reasons , here’s to Dan , proper derby fan , one of our own 🐏

At times like this there only one thing for it ,,, channel your inner George formbey,,,, turned out nice again 🤷🏻‍♂️😀 say more tomorrow,im just too happy tonight

Ok , having my usual pre match travel coffee in the garden , got real worries about this one , injuries are biting , very poor result last game and away at leaders next , they are no mugs and the pressure is on ,,,, what could go wrong 🫣, in truth I always go to these kind of games with the gut feeling we will lose then everything else is a bonus , it is derby after all , that said I’m hoping we bounce back and a few below us have a bit of a slip , big crowd and we need to get behind the team coyr💪

She will be found out at championship level🤷🏻‍♂️

Would that make him hourhane?

Collins? A bit unfair in my view

We do that in patches then we have times when the players couldn’t pass wind , the ball bounces off them like pinball or they take an eye off the ball , miss control or let the ball roll out of play , personally I’m not keen on the idea of keep doing something even if it doesn’t work , it’s a results business and the so called better football teams like Bolton and Peterborough are doing slightly worse than us in the league and just as prone to the destructive dire performance and result 🤷🏻‍♂️

To be honest , reading your post it sounds more like what your looking for is consistency and what knocks the stuffing out of you is the lack of it ,guts me too , my reaction during and for a while after the game was , why the duck do I bother putting myself through this reality is you really don’t get consistency at this level or even below mid table prem , the players lack that and it’s why they are not top level , what you gonna do ? Give up and support city ? nah where’s the gut churning butterflies , highs and lows in that ? I get it though ,I really do ,it’s hard work being a derby fan

One blunt knife don’t spoil the whole drawer

Well that was shxt ,,, everyone shares the blame , the manager and the team, there wasn’t an inch of space to be found on the pitch and it was just a pinball like display from both teams with balls bouncing off players feet , heads and knees at random especially out wide where they just strangled us with numbers and determination to block any progress up the field ,we perhaps missed max bird badly today to give us a different option through the middle and change it up and perhaps warnes subs were very stale as it clearly wasn’t working , more injuries and more pressure , this being a derby fan is not all it’s cracked up to be 😂

Yep you definitely need continuity to be able to build trust , then once you have that a good counsellor will listen and ask the right questions ,they don’t have the answers for anyone but good ones have the skill to help you find your own answers and keys , it’s a bloody hard job because if your doing it because you care as most are the urge to want to fix things for people and make them happy is very strong

You’re not really getting what I’m saying , if we are getting it so much more right then why have and are suicide rates going through the roof ? Yes there’s there’s terrible stuff / wrongs in the past but that does not mean that’s there’s any less wrongs now even if they are less obvious, how many people are thrown into a community they can’t cope with who need good care and even residential care , left to bounce between police cells and accident and emergency being handled by people not trained to help who often through pressure are making things worse to the point of people harming themselves and others , im very open about my experience of losing a child to suicide and time spent working as a counsellor in prisons simply because I think it’s the right way to go not because I in some daft way think it means I have all the answers or my opinion has anymore value than anybody else s , it just means I don’t throw stuff out Willy nilly without a care , one of the worst things about my time in the prison area was that when you had success with people there was duck all follow up help after our 12 weeks and they were back in the day to day prison routine having opened up and started to dismantle the self destructive shield they had built to survive the poo they had most times been through ,,, really troubled me as to whether we we were actually doing more harm than good 🤷🏻‍♂️

That’s kind of what I mean mucker, some need time and rest , some need gentle pushing into a position of being active filling time and space , some( though not as many as are palmed off ) need medication ,some need a mix of all 3 and rather than provide the services needed there’s a push to one size fits all, some really do need help understanding that what they are experiencing is not necessarily mental health problems in the full sense but rather life’s difficulties ( no less devastating to some ) and need to be helped to understand this and helped with coping mechanisms , Time with a good counsellor coupled with our new found openness in a timely manner , available to all at no cost or massive waiting list would go a long long way to getting positive results

For me , although we have come a long way in terms of bringing these issues out into the open so people don’t need to be alone or feel any kind of shame we just havnt in any way moved forward in trying to formulate the best course of action to help people,

I blame sky tv , it’s little wonder so many fans have lost the passion , joy and heartbreak of actually winning and losing games🤷‍♂️

Your right but I’ve done the sums and they are pretty poor also , the biggest thing with me over the years has been I’ve learned that you really need to spend out on a new van or at very least extremely low mileage ,ive all too often in my younger days had vans that are high mileage that you have no clue how they have been looked after and they turn into money pits that are totally unreliable, I can go out and buy a van that’s a day older than mine but done about 80 k miles for stupid money ( mine is worth peanuts now) , fit it out how I need it and have a pig in a poke 🤷🏻‍♂️ ah well , it’s just the way things are , people like me (and there’s plenty) can’t really afford to or able to make a viable financial case to not just suck it up and be hit in the pocket with yet another big tax drain on our living standards , the expansion is a money spinner pure and simple anyway I’m not intending to drag this thread off topic it was just a wry throw away comment on what I’m collecting 😂

Just done some quick sums , at £12.50 a day 5 days a week it would take me in the region of 15 years to recover the cost of ulez tax by buying a new electric van , jeez I will be happy if I live that long 😂