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  1. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/marcelo-bielsa-confirms-sent-leeds-13843995.amp Its in there, was apparently the Sky interview before the game. Mirror as you say but quoting his Sky interview. Could probably go and check by going on my tele and searching for it but its not that important, small point but does seem Frank has told a lie.
  2. Pre game, sky interview i think, been quoted in quite a few media sources. Anyway i wont respond anymore, i know when I'm not welcome๐Ÿ˜”
  3. I didnt say that. Just pointing out its very easy for managers to claim things and people taking that as fact.
  4. I usually will just disappear, but i may stick about just to annoy you specifically ๐Ÿ˜
  5. No manager is going to come out and say "yep i dont do that" are they to be fair. Fact remains managers like Pep and Conte have traveled thousands of miles to watch the sort of thing we saw yesterday. Is analysis revolutionary anymore, no, but Bielsa is famous for his attention to detail and the way he sees the game, Pep described him as "the man who knows the most about football" after there first meeting. Was anyone really expecting a host of managers to come out and say "Wow thats amazing, wish we all did that". They were all going to claim they did, most will to a degree, but very very few will do it to that degree, especially outside of the top 4 or 5 imo. If the stuff Bielsa did was so common then world class managers wouldnt travel half way across the world to watch his stuff imo. Bielsa and his analysis and the way he does things influence the best managers in the world right now, thats not a secret or a hyperbole, its a fact. I think he is great ๐Ÿ˜„
  6. โ€œThe police came on the training pitch, disruption number one" That is Frank a few days ago. So Frank talks about honesty and flat out lies according to the police. As i said, small point, just wish people would atleast get there facts straight in the media.
  7. The police said he wasnt on private property, nothing was being done, everything was above board and he was allowed on his way. Of course someone reported him thats fine ๐Ÿ˜‚ But the way it was built up is untrue, no property damage, no trespassing, no police on the training ground. So says the police, so regarding the police on training ground, someone is telling pork pies. They can have details apparently, i hope its resolved soon, then we can get on with winning the league ๐Ÿ˜„
  8. Maybe not, but others have, Sky, media etc, and Frank did say the police were on the training ground, something denied by the police, its a small point, just bugs me tiz all.
  9. Its relevant in the sense Sky and the like are pushing that angle, cant count how many times ive heard the media say he was "inside the training ground" and Keown banging on about ladders and disrupting Derby training for ages. Wheres we now know that the disruption lasted for a few minutes and then you carried on, the police did not enter the training ground, and the man was on public land. Just like Sky to stop pushing false information, it bugs me.
  10. I still would like to know where the stuff about pliers and ladders came from, and the police entering the training ground, that bit was specifically denied by Derbyshire Police in a tweet. Moving on from the football side, thats making stuff up on the part of Derby FC? Thats not right surely?
  11. Feel a bit sick not gonna lie๐Ÿ˜‚ But Jansson has given me hope๐Ÿ˜Š
  12. Without flogging a dead horse anymore, what id really like to know is where this binoculars, pliers, ladders stuff came from? And the breaking in stuff? There was no mention of that from the police? They explicitly stated everything was above board? a man was watching from a public space and he was moved on, no mention of breaking in or ladders or pliers. And the police stated they didnt tell Leeds or Derby or anyone else anything including the stuff about the car or anything else. So where is this information coming from? Watching from public land is one thing, but Frank and the media and some on sky claiming that the man was about to or even in the middle of breaking into private property is something totally different.
  13. @David Will keep this short because its late lol. I believe and i could be wrong but the AVB thing does link back to the Telegraph article, but i have heard he goes into detail in his book about what he used to do. He doesnt admit specially spying on training sessions (that I've seen) but wouldn't you agree its incredibly unlikely a man famous for his analysis would just travel hundreds of miles to Newcastle for example just to sit in the car park of the training ground? AVB was famous for his meticulous nature and would sometimes spend days scouting opponents apparently, he wasnt sitting in a car park for days. I think while there isnt a specific admission i think its fairly clear what he was doing imo. Maniche i think it was confirmed the laundry basket tactic was one that he personally saw Jose do, whether that was Porto or Chelsea i dont know mate but the tactic is a matter of fact according to an ex player. True enough on the Lampard knowing, that was an assumption i made. But AVB did go to opposition training grounds in disguise by his own admission, whether that was just to sit in the carpark or spy that in itself is underhand and sneaky and not within the spirit of the game. Probably never know the whole truth on all of this sort of thing, i just think its hard to believe Lampard isn't aware of this sort of thing, people gaining inside information by underhand means And i think its doubtful Frank hasnt gained a bit of a hand for his own benifit in the past, texting a mate on another team, talking to a coach etc. I agree, think the EFL should just get on with it now.
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