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    DesertRam reacted to Elgin_Ram in Charlton Athletic (A) Match Thread   
    Is that from the horses mouth?
     
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    DesertRam reacted to RamNut in A case for treading water   
    We expect too much. 
    Just accept that we are always the bridesmaid and never the bride. We're the ugly bird in a threesome. The lotto winner who lost their ticket. Runner up in the knobbly knees. If We were a racehorse, they'd have shot us. 
     
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    DesertRam reacted to Bob The Badger in As A Derby Fan What Are You Most Bitter About?   
    That was bizarre.
    I can still see five of us old goats sat in a pub somewhere in North London at 1 pm all saying, 'well at least he can't leave Marriott out of this one' and chuckling about it.
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    DesertRam reacted to i-Ram in Lawrence and Bennett charged with drink driving   
    We can’t all desire lines.
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    DesertRam got a reaction from AdamRam in Morris has bought shame on himself tonight   
    I must be at odds with everybody on here, cause I tend to think the majority of the blame is down to the club.
    So we sanction a bonding session at a pub, for the staff, players etc.. all ok, but we don't insist they go home in a taxi
    provided by the club, none of this would have happened had everyone been collected and dropped back off. So the 
    actual decision was made by two young players, who had already had several drinks - there's the problem IMO, they 
    shouldn't have been in that position in the first place. I also wouldn't have played them yet, not til after the court case,
    but do think they deserve a second chance, can't agree with destroying two careers, over a street sign, or what might
    have happened - as it didn't!
     
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    DesertRam got a reaction from TimRam in Morris has bought shame on himself tonight   
    I must be at odds with everybody on here, cause I tend to think the majority of the blame is down to the club.
    So we sanction a bonding session at a pub, for the staff, players etc.. all ok, but we don't insist they go home in a taxi
    provided by the club, none of this would have happened had everyone been collected and dropped back off. So the 
    actual decision was made by two young players, who had already had several drinks - there's the problem IMO, they 
    shouldn't have been in that position in the first place. I also wouldn't have played them yet, not til after the court case,
    but do think they deserve a second chance, can't agree with destroying two careers, over a street sign, or what might
    have happened - as it didn't!
     
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    DesertRam reacted to Bob The Badger in Morris has bought shame on himself tonight   
    I said this in the game thread, but would the people who are ashamed be so if they'd been stopped doing 50mph in a 30mph hour zone? Because speed is the single biggest determining factor of fatalities in RTA's.
    Go and watch the Charlie George interview on RamsTv and see how he and Colin Gibson chuckle when he tells the story of falling asleep at the wheel when driving up the M1 to sign for Derby.
    The courts will strip them of their license for at least 18-months, they'll get hit with big fines and their insurance will go up accordingly (and yeh, yeh they can probably afford it), but how many times do you want to find somebody guilty?
    I lean toward wishing they hadn't played them if I'm being honest, but I think there's a tad too much hysteria and holier than thou attitudes.
     
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    DesertRam reacted to maxjam in Morris has bought shame on himself tonight   
    Agree.
    I personally don't think they should have played until both the police and club investigations had concluded but technically they are innocent until proved guilty so don't feel as though MM has bought shame on himself/the club/whatever.
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    DesertRam reacted to rammieib in Morris has bought shame on himself tonight   
    Controversial or not, I don’t care. I also agree opinions will be split but....
    To go around the ground apologising, going on the radio, conducting an internal investigation etc and then to give permission for Cocu tonight (who is also implicit) to play these two individuals is just shaming every single Derby fan and the club. He’s taken every single fan as a mug in my opinion.
    I was ashamed of these players a week ago, tonight I’m ashamed of my club.
    Another legacy (MM) hurt by awful awful decisions.
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    DesertRam reacted to Alpha in If Lawrence and Bennett are involved on Saturday?...   
    It's hard to give a fitting punishment to a person you don't understand
    With your kids you don't have a punishment set it stone for every rule break. 
    You give them just the right amount of hurt. If I say to my oldest that she's let me down then she don't care so long as she's got the iPad. The youngest would rather lose the ipad and the dolls and everything else than think I'm upset with her. 
    All you need from people really is to take them to the point where the mistake is engraved on their bones. So it shapes their way forward. For some people they don't need telling. Others have to really get smacked in the face with it. 
    We don't know where Bennett and Lawrence are. 
    I mean ultimately it was stupid people doing stupid stuff. It's not violent people setting out to hurt someone. 
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    DesertRam reacted to wixman1884 in If Lawrence and Bennett are involved on Saturday?...   
    Very fair and thoughtful posting Alpha.
    I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment and both posts. 
    I was surprised with the team sheet but didn't feel drawn emotionally either way. I don't know either lad personally, how they've dealt with the situation, how they've worked in training, who else was responsible. I don't really know enough of the details to write either person off as a human being.
    I've done some awful things in my 20s that could have easily, but didn't, lead to terrible consequences. I feel lucky about that and I've had to grow up.
    I imagine Bennett and Lawrence are going through a world of hurt right now and if Cocu thinks they should be in the squad I have to trust his deeper understanding of the situation and hope they play well for everyone's sake.
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    DesertRam reacted to DarkFruitsRam7 in If Lawrence and Bennett are involved on Saturday?...   
    I support the team. Lawrence and Bennett are on the team. Therefore, I will support Lawrence and Bennett.
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    DesertRam reacted to ramsbottom in Has your faith in the club been tested?   
    People will be expecting that...
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    DesertRam reacted to Rammy03 in bye   
    Can't believe what I'm reading
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    DesertRam reacted to DCFC Ram in bye   
    Just a quick cheerio from me.
    I've enjoyed reading and contributing to this forum, the Derby Craic and the old NEP one over many years.
    I'll see out this season as my last as a DCFC season ticket holder.
    I'll not be supporting Derby County at the remaining games but I dohope to enjoy the matches whoever Derby County is playing.
    I was at Barnsley tonight.
    I cannot support that team selection decision and they 2 players are not 'one of my own.'
    I do not want to be associated with a club that is morally bankrupt. And it is and I won't.
    So - thanks to all on here and the other forums for the Derby chat over many years.
    over and out for the forseeable future at least
     
     
     
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    DesertRam reacted to Steve How Hard? in Lawrence and Bennett charged with drink driving   
    I'm not part of the lynch mob that wants Lawrence and Bennett hung, drawn and quartered but there are a multitude of reasons why having them in tomorrow nights squad would be a bad idea. My opinion FWIW is that Sky have got their Guessometer out again. The same one they used when predicting the timeline for Lampard leaving.
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    DesertRam got a reaction from DarkFruitsRam7 in Lawrence and Bennett charged with drink driving   
    Great post, and I fully agree with almost all of your views, except for the last paragraph.
    I tend to think that most people, need an "awakening" moment every now and then, to keep them on the right path.
    However, don't think they should have to feel that their lives are under constant review, because they are in a profession 
    that most people aspire to.
    As you say, they are not beyond redemption, and I'm betting this will never happen again, with any of those involved, so
    a second chance isn't out of the question for me.
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    DesertRam got a reaction from Shipley Ram in Lawrence and Bennett charged with drink driving   
    Great post, and I fully agree with almost all of your views, except for the last paragraph.
    I tend to think that most people, need an "awakening" moment every now and then, to keep them on the right path.
    However, don't think they should have to feel that their lives are under constant review, because they are in a profession 
    that most people aspire to.
    As you say, they are not beyond redemption, and I'm betting this will never happen again, with any of those involved, so
    a second chance isn't out of the question for me.
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    DesertRam reacted to LittleEatonRam in Lawrence and Bennett charged with drink driving   
    I get your point, and it’s been made a lot on this forum lately, which is fair enough. None of us are perfect and have unblemished records. I know I don’t.
    But I’m afraid different standards apply to footballers. I know that seems unfair, but it’s a fact.
    They are paid exceptional wages on exceptional terms of employment. They’re paid whether they play or not, and however well or badly they play. Most people don’t have that luxury. Someone like Lawrence is probably on about £15k a week (and that is probably a conservative estimate). That’s £780,000 per year. More than the best Consultant surgeons in the country, more than some of the most responsible individuals out there. More than some very top level managers at some of the biggest companies in the country. Certainly, if a Exec level employee in the company I work for (who probably aren’t on a fraction of that) did what TL did he’d be sacked without doubt. Because the level of pay dictates a level of behaviour and responsibility. Add into that the fact that professional footballers also have more free time and their wage per hour is astronomical.
    They are also (whether they like it or not) role models. I’m not saying they should be – god knows I’d prefer people to idolise those surgeons etc – but they are. They will know this because growing up they will have idolised footballers themselves. And they know this when they decide they want to be one.
    What must Philip Cocu think? Before Messi he made the most appearances for Barcelona of any foreign player. Do you think he did anything like this? I’m guessing not. And maybe that’s one of the reasons why he held that record. He knew he had to be a dedicated professional.
    Players like Mason Bennett will never make it to that level. He’ll be lucky to have a career in League Two if he’s as professional as this past week has suggested. At Derby since he was a boy. Handsomely rewarded way beyond what he deserves or has shown he might deserve. What a good life this club has given him up to now. Wealthy enough for a Mercedes despite a minimal contribution to Derby County in almost 10 years. The kind of life he probably wouldn’t have managed in any other sphere of life given the legendary void between his ears.
    Even if they are not beyond redemption (they clearly aren’t), I’d still get rid of them as they plainly do not have anywhere near the kind of attitude to make it into the kind of player this club needs and wants.
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    DesertRam reacted to Pearl Ram in Lawrence and Bennett charged with drink driving   
    Good post @LittleEatonRam but what I’d say to the smart Alec’s trying infer you can’t be pi**ed off with these three is the stuff I’ve done wrong hasn’t impacted on an organisation (or in this case a football club) loved by thousands or disappointed the owner of the said organisation who has done nothing but try to supply the very best facilities for them to ply their trade. 
    So they can take their piety and shove it up their arse for they are defending the indefensible in this case.
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    DesertRam reacted to ollycutts1982 in Lawrence and Bennett charged with drink driving   
    It’s a tough one. They have both been ridiculously stupid. There’s the side of me that says we all make big mistakes in life, anyone who says they haven’t aren’t being truthful. They are in a very privileged position but are still human. As for Keogh, what has happened is shocking, despite his critics he has been an excellent servant to us. There will be those who will say as a senior player, our captain, he should not have got in the car, he should not have let them get in their cars. We all know what effect alcohol has on people. No one will need to tell him what he should have done. He will have plenty of time to reflect on ‘should haves’. 
    As for the players returning to training. It has been mentioned about Lawrence’s mental state. Surely despite all what has happened the best thing for him and his well being is to get him training and doing what he knows, a bit of ‘the normal’ if you like. Cutting him off, suspending him, sacking him is not the right think for the club to do. He will have to deal with the consequences of his actions come the court date and beyond. As for selection I would not consider them until the court date when all the facts will be there for all to see.
    Modern footballers are put on a pedestal and given wealth most can only dream of. Some of these guys would probably make nothing of themselves if it weren’t for football. We live in a society where a crime is given a punishment and once that punishment have been served the individual should be able to try and carry on with their life, agree or disagree that is the society in which we live.  
    Once again the spotlight is on the club and up to know I believe Mel and Cocu have handled it very well. Again we are lucky to have good people at the helm. 
     
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    DesertRam got a reaction from SKRam in Has your faith in the club been tested?   
    No test here, there's only one DCFC.
    We've all made mistakes that we regret, I've made a fair few, it could have been alot worse
    so i'm quite happy with them paying their dues, making ammends and carrying on at the club.
    OR, we could get the Spanish Inquisition in...........
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    DesertRam reacted to rammieib in Lawrence and Bennett charged with drink driving   
    I had one issue with the clubs statement where they said they will reintegrate the players. This for me shows they have already decided against certain punishments before the Legal proceedings are held and before their own internal investigation is completed.
    I feel stronger than with each passing day these two individuals should be fired. I also hope significant custodial sentences are passed down on them.
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    DesertRam reacted to RandomAccessMemory in Lawrence and Bennett charged with drink driving   
    Same, it was sheer luck that they didn't kill anyone, including themselves, and as ridiculous as this may sound (as it would obviously have been better if it didn't happen ever!) I'm glad that if it had to happen then it happened at a time when no one outside of the people who had control of their own situation got injured or worse, and this way, they should learn a lesson and it hasn't come at as high a cost as it might have if it had happened at a different time.
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    DesertRam reacted to SaintRam in Lawrence and Bennett charged with drink driving   
    This matters.
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