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    gccrowdpleaser reacted to RandomAccessMemory in EFL charge Derby over ffp   
    For reference to my earlier post about the club repeatedly mentioning the EFL Executive and the FFP/P&S rules also repeatedly mentioning the Executive, I thought to look at the definition section of the EFL rules, this is what it says:
    https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/section-1----general/
    I re-read the club statement and noticed the wording:
    Maybe it's just me reading it wrong (it is late!) but would it be worded 'which asked for', if the EFL Executive referred to was a single person?
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    gccrowdpleaser reacted to BriggRam in Billy Sharp   
    I thought he’d scored more than that.....my bad 🥃🥃🥃
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    gccrowdpleaser got a reaction from 86 Schmokes & a Pancake in Billy Sharp   
    How is proven in the prem that he knows where the net is? He's scored 1 goal in 14 appearances. By the same token Waghorn has 7 in his 32 premier league appearances making him also 'proven'.  Doesnt hold any water really.
    It's the sort of signing that fans say they want and then when it doesnt work out criticise the club for bad contract, poor recruitment  etc etc.
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    gccrowdpleaser got a reaction from Ted McMinn Football Genius in EFL charge Derby over ffp   
    HMRC are far more concerned with an under valuation than an over valuation. I.e transferring ownership of a fixed asses and avoiding the tax. If Mel had sold for 200m then he's also liable to pay all of the taxes etc that go with that enhanced price tag
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    gccrowdpleaser got a reaction from woody01530 in EFL charge Derby over ffp   
    HMRC are far more concerned with an under valuation than an over valuation. I.e transferring ownership of a fixed asses and avoiding the tax. If Mel had sold for 200m then he's also liable to pay all of the taxes etc that go with that enhanced price tag
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    gccrowdpleaser got a reaction from Poynton ram in EFL charge Derby over ffp   
    So much nonsense spouted here.
    You can pay as much as you wish for a fixed asset. It's worth what someone is willing to pay for it. The amount was paid and also, of particular importance, the taxes were also all paid in line with the amount. Making the whole sale absolutely legal.
    The rules stated that fixed assets could be sold. That is exactly what is happened. 
    EFL can have only two allegations...one around fraud. The other around the spirit in which the transaction took place.
    As we saw with Leeds and the spy gate issue. They broke no rules but they were still charged and fined due to not adhering to the spirit of the rules. The EFL then saw fit to fine alter the rules in accordance.
    This is what will happen here. The accounts were approved by the EFL. They cannot now retract that approval without there being a material difference in the info provided or indeed fraudulent activity in the provision of the accounts. Neither of which are alleged or part of the charge.
    Yes we have probably contravened the spirit of the rules but not the rules themselves. They are under pressure from the Gibson lawsuit so need to show some willing but cannot actually act. They will be ripped through he court by a man with far far deeper pockets.
    Spirit of the law contravention then we move on 
    One slight aside. And it may be an interesting diversion. In breacing and being deducted points Birmingham actually had the rolling three year period completely reset. Therefore 2019/20 is year one of their 3 year FFP period. For everyone else it is a rolling three years. With that in mind...if I was anew investor...I would be inclined to want the FFP period to be reset to zero in order that my investment can be used to it's full potential. Just a thought.
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    gccrowdpleaser got a reaction from RadioactiveWaste in EFL charge Derby over ffp   
    There was every interesting narrative from Mel at the time about investment in a retractable roof and pitch covering that was being developed to allow 100 events a year to be staged at PP which would increase turn over by 10/12 million per year. That was the basis for the increased valuation. It's a business proposal.
    It's no more far fetched than Scott Malone being worth £2m on the balance sheet as an asset.
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    gccrowdpleaser got a reaction from Steve Bloomer's Washing in EFL charge Derby over ffp   
    So much nonsense spouted here.
    You can pay as much as you wish for a fixed asset. It's worth what someone is willing to pay for it. The amount was paid and also, of particular importance, the taxes were also all paid in line with the amount. Making the whole sale absolutely legal.
    The rules stated that fixed assets could be sold. That is exactly what is happened. 
    EFL can have only two allegations...one around fraud. The other around the spirit in which the transaction took place.
    As we saw with Leeds and the spy gate issue. They broke no rules but they were still charged and fined due to not adhering to the spirit of the rules. The EFL then saw fit to fine alter the rules in accordance.
    This is what will happen here. The accounts were approved by the EFL. They cannot now retract that approval without there being a material difference in the info provided or indeed fraudulent activity in the provision of the accounts. Neither of which are alleged or part of the charge.
    Yes we have probably contravened the spirit of the rules but not the rules themselves. They are under pressure from the Gibson lawsuit so need to show some willing but cannot actually act. They will be ripped through he court by a man with far far deeper pockets.
    Spirit of the law contravention then we move on 
    One slight aside. And it may be an interesting diversion. In breacing and being deducted points Birmingham actually had the rolling three year period completely reset. Therefore 2019/20 is year one of their 3 year FFP period. For everyone else it is a rolling three years. With that in mind...if I was anew investor...I would be inclined to want the FFP period to be reset to zero in order that my investment can be used to it's full potential. Just a thought.
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    gccrowdpleaser got a reaction from NottsRam77 in EFL charge Derby over ffp   
    So much nonsense spouted here.
    You can pay as much as you wish for a fixed asset. It's worth what someone is willing to pay for it. The amount was paid and also, of particular importance, the taxes were also all paid in line with the amount. Making the whole sale absolutely legal.
    The rules stated that fixed assets could be sold. That is exactly what is happened. 
    EFL can have only two allegations...one around fraud. The other around the spirit in which the transaction took place.
    As we saw with Leeds and the spy gate issue. They broke no rules but they were still charged and fined due to not adhering to the spirit of the rules. The EFL then saw fit to fine alter the rules in accordance.
    This is what will happen here. The accounts were approved by the EFL. They cannot now retract that approval without there being a material difference in the info provided or indeed fraudulent activity in the provision of the accounts. Neither of which are alleged or part of the charge.
    Yes we have probably contravened the spirit of the rules but not the rules themselves. They are under pressure from the Gibson lawsuit so need to show some willing but cannot actually act. They will be ripped through he court by a man with far far deeper pockets.
    Spirit of the law contravention then we move on 
    One slight aside. And it may be an interesting diversion. In breacing and being deducted points Birmingham actually had the rolling three year period completely reset. Therefore 2019/20 is year one of their 3 year FFP period. For everyone else it is a rolling three years. With that in mind...if I was anew investor...I would be inclined to want the FFP period to be reset to zero in order that my investment can be used to it's full potential. Just a thought.
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    gccrowdpleaser got a reaction from SIXTEEN AGAIN in EFL charge Derby over ffp   
    All this will blow over. The EFL cannot argue that it is a loophole. They will say that it is not in the spirit. They will give us a fine and then they will introduce new legislation that means that in future the valuation must be done by a stated independent body contracted to the EFL.
    Everyone else will kick off and say it's unfair.
    Done. Worry over.
    Mark my words.
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    gccrowdpleaser got a reaction from Jack Willow in Ferdi Kadioglu   
    It's not going to be 10 million  is it let's be honest. 
    If we were to get him it would be on loan for the rest of this season with a guaranteed purchase in the summer. No way would that guaranteed purchase price of £10m.
    He cost €1.26m 18 months ago and has played 27 games in that time. They can obviously demand whatever they wish but I wouldn't expect a fee of more than 3 or 4m at most 
    Interesting to note that he is represented by none other than....Wasserman group.
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    gccrowdpleaser got a reaction from Edtheram in Jack Marriott   
    Hull have agreed a fee for a striker and expect to announce him (or her 😉) today or tomorrow after successful conclusion of a medical. 
    You would expect that will put the Marriott rumours to bed...unless it is Marriott...🤷‍♂️
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    gccrowdpleaser reacted to SaintRam in Ferdi Kadioglu   
    To be honest, I'm looking around on transfermarkt and I'm struggling to find a dutch player who isn't represented by Wasserman Netherlands 😄 
    Van Dijk isn't list as being on transfermarkt but a brief search on Google suggests he is, so our chances of signing him to fill in our hole at the back have increased significantly!
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    gccrowdpleaser reacted to rynny in Jamie Paterson - loan cancelled   
    Completely untrue
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    gccrowdpleaser got a reaction from Ramarena in Scott Sinclair - signed for PNE   
    This is where Derby fans stun me with the desire to sign absolutely anyone just to have a signing.
    This is a guy who is 31 in March. He's played a little under 180 minutes of football this season and hasn't played for Celtic fully since last March. You would expect he will take 2/3 months to get up to speed so really it is a signing for next season.  
    Fair play to Preston he fits in with the profile they need of bringing in an experienced midfielder to support a relatively young squad. We absolutely don't need that. 
    It's what we have been rightly critical of signing in the past. Players who were in their prime 3/4 years ago. Not now.
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    gccrowdpleaser reacted to Srg in Scott Sinclair - signed for PNE   
    That was literally 10 years ago. Kris Commons was good 10 years ago.
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    gccrowdpleaser got a reaction from nogbad van 50 in Scott Sinclair - signed for PNE   
    This is where Derby fans stun me with the desire to sign absolutely anyone just to have a signing.
    This is a guy who is 31 in March. He's played a little under 180 minutes of football this season and hasn't played for Celtic fully since last March. You would expect he will take 2/3 months to get up to speed so really it is a signing for next season.  
    Fair play to Preston he fits in with the profile they need of bringing in an experienced midfielder to support a relatively young squad. We absolutely don't need that. 
    It's what we have been rightly critical of signing in the past. Players who were in their prime 3/4 years ago. Not now.
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    gccrowdpleaser got a reaction from Gisby in Scott Sinclair - signed for PNE   
    This is where Derby fans stun me with the desire to sign absolutely anyone just to have a signing.
    This is a guy who is 31 in March. He's played a little under 180 minutes of football this season and hasn't played for Celtic fully since last March. You would expect he will take 2/3 months to get up to speed so really it is a signing for next season.  
    Fair play to Preston he fits in with the profile they need of bringing in an experienced midfielder to support a relatively young squad. We absolutely don't need that. 
    It's what we have been rightly critical of signing in the past. Players who were in their prime 3/4 years ago. Not now.
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    gccrowdpleaser got a reaction from i-Ram in Scott Sinclair - signed for PNE   
    This is where Derby fans stun me with the desire to sign absolutely anyone just to have a signing.
    This is a guy who is 31 in March. He's played a little under 180 minutes of football this season and hasn't played for Celtic fully since last March. You would expect he will take 2/3 months to get up to speed so really it is a signing for next season.  
    Fair play to Preston he fits in with the profile they need of bringing in an experienced midfielder to support a relatively young squad. We absolutely don't need that. 
    It's what we have been rightly critical of signing in the past. Players who were in their prime 3/4 years ago. Not now.
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    gccrowdpleaser got a reaction from Steve How Hard? in Scott Sinclair - signed for PNE   
    This is where Derby fans stun me with the desire to sign absolutely anyone just to have a signing.
    This is a guy who is 31 in March. He's played a little under 180 minutes of football this season and hasn't played for Celtic fully since last March. You would expect he will take 2/3 months to get up to speed so really it is a signing for next season.  
    Fair play to Preston he fits in with the profile they need of bringing in an experienced midfielder to support a relatively young squad. We absolutely don't need that. 
    It's what we have been rightly critical of signing in the past. Players who were in their prime 3/4 years ago. Not now.
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    gccrowdpleaser got a reaction from BPV in Tariq Uwakwe   
    The issue isn't having quality loan players at all. We should welcome quality loan players. The issue is not having a plan for when they go back. 
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    gccrowdpleaser got a reaction from therams69 in Investment Close   
    My feeling on this is that the investment will be revealed on 1st Feb.
    Why, going into a transfer window, would you reveal that you have a new wealthy investor. Clubs just add 20-40% onto the loan fees and transfer fees. Players increase their wage demands. So the investment soon actually costs the club more.
    It will come when the time is right and that time is certainly not him the start of the transfer window.
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    gccrowdpleaser got a reaction from Millenniumram in Tariq Uwakwe   
    The issue isn't having quality loan players at all. We should welcome quality loan players. The issue is not having a plan for when they go back. 
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    gccrowdpleaser got a reaction from jimbo jones in Tariq Uwakwe   
    The issue isn't having quality loan players at all. We should welcome quality loan players. The issue is not having a plan for when they go back. 
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    gccrowdpleaser got a reaction from The Orange Pimpernel in Scott Sinclair - signed for PNE   
    This is where Derby fans stun me with the desire to sign absolutely anyone just to have a signing.
    This is a guy who is 31 in March. He's played a little under 180 minutes of football this season and hasn't played for Celtic fully since last March. You would expect he will take 2/3 months to get up to speed so really it is a signing for next season.  
    Fair play to Preston he fits in with the profile they need of bringing in an experienced midfielder to support a relatively young squad. We absolutely don't need that. 
    It's what we have been rightly critical of signing in the past. Players who were in their prime 3/4 years ago. Not now.
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