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People are criticising him for not being strong enough in tackling etc. He's never been a good tackler, so why is he being asked to do it? He shouldn't even be running around this much. Isn't that what Fornah was bought for? The worst thing about that heat map is the place you want him to be the most is the place he is the least. That being around the D shooting.

Results have been good, but there isn't any fixture that I wouldn't expect us to win, apart from Oxford away possibly. I disagree that Wilson and Elder have been good. Wilson has 1 goal and 1 assist which isn't good considering he's now meant to be a winger. His shooting is terrible for a winger as well. Elders made numerous mistakes which have led to goals and his general defending is poor. Who's fault is it that Ward has been disappointing? his crossing would a huge weapon if used correctly.

I'd argue a similar thing about Hourihane. It's a trend on here for all the Warne fans to blame Hourihane when he's being asked to be a player he isn't. His abilities have been wasted in my opinion.

He's had a productive season because he's one of our only attacking outlets and the team is set up to feed him the ball as much as possible. At times he's been our only attacking outlet. There was periods earlier in the season where our only tactic was pass it to him and hope he does something.

I don't know how you can spin his back 3 formation failing as a positive. I wouldn't say Ward, Elder or Wilson have adapted that well.

I don't get what people are seeing with Elder. He's looked terrible every time I've seen him. I didn't realise how important Forsyth was before he got injured.

Of course he's better as an out and out attacker because that's what he is. Why would anyone play him in wing back? Thank Rosenior we signed him, because Warne could never could. Its a shame Warne only realised we were better suited to a back 4 after he signed all those players for his back 3 formation

Aren't the manager and future planning one and the same? Even if Warne leaves after a few seasons, what legacy is he going to leave? Isn't all planning ultimately made with the first team in mind? I don't see how you can separate them.

I don't think Warnes got the best out of NML at all. He's just that good of a player at this level that he still performs well. He's been made to play striker and wing back at times.

The problem is definitely that we're not crossing it enough

3-1 Collo

I know they're planning in other ways and not solely the academy. I was just using it as an example. Nothing about Warnes signals long term planning at all. He hasn't improved any player (and therefore increased their sale value should we sell). He's churned through the squad and ground them down to playing a regressive, simplistic and short-termist method of playing football. I presume part of this 'future planning' involves attracting talented players here with high sell on potential. What about Warne would attract any player like that to us? How does that help with the long term planning and continuity of the club? Its not that I disagree with Warne in the context of future planning, I think he's actively a hinderance to it. If his short-termism does work and we go up, I think it will just be one step forward, two back overall. You mention Warne as a representation of robustness and sustainability. He hasn't been either of those things. His transfers aren't sustainable and he's abandoned formations and systems multiple times over the last seasons. I disagree that just because something can't be changed, that means you can't express dislike for it. Of course we all want Derby to win every game no matter what.

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But the plans and infrastructure being placed doesn't seem to align with what Warne is doing at all, and is arguably hindering it. How is it helpful that a progressive 4-3-3 style is imposed on every level of the academy, but the first team play such backwards football? I personally don't want to wait 3 years to just see if it works out for Warne. Ask Sheffield Wednesday fans next season if it was worth getting promoted by any means last season.

The 'Klopp style of play' you're suggesting isn't even used by Klopp anymore. It's almost 5 years out of date. He's changed to 3-3-3-1 similar to most top Prem teams. I've seen little evidence Warnes style resembles old Klopp anyway

3-0 Collo

If their punishment doesn't result in relegation at least, then it just signals that cheating is worth it overall. Why is this deemed as breaking the rules, yet effectively laundering money through multi-club ownership isn't?

1-3 JJ

2-1 Hourihane

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2-2 Collins

3-0 Hourihane

1-3 NML

3-0 Cashin

Fernando Alonso in a Robin could probably beat me in a Ferrari