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With the state of the pitch I’m doubtful it would recover by next season

As things stand we can’t finish lower than fourth. 

All we’ve got to do is get better results than those around us and we go up. Simples

3 hours ago, Carnero said:

Under SCMP a normal L1 club can spend up to 60% of turnover on player salaries, a newly relegated club can spend up to 75%. I guess we could spend somewhere in the middle given the post-admin business plan. We spent 42%.

But the guy on twitter having read the report says 7.3m and under the target of the EFL agreement. 

1 hour ago, Carnero said:

I don't know where Dom gets £7.3m and 36% from when the accounts literally say that it was 42%.

Doesn’t it call that a salary cap - what’s available to spend not what actually was spent 

2 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Ah, that's the bit I missed. Yes, £8.6m would be more accurate than £7.3m based on 42% of £20.44m. Dom states 36% though.

That £8.6m excludes: social security, pensions, loaned out players (Bielik), U21 and other academy players. With all of these included, I estimated all contracted and academy players to cost approximately £12m.

That would leave all other staff costs at approximately £5.2m, which would be in line with most Championship Cat 1 clubs.

The cap is the maximum allowable under the plan - doesn’t mean we are spending it.

17 minutes ago, Carnero said:

Does the Salary Cap Management Protocol % of 42.0% suggest a player wage bill of approx £8.6m?

That would be the maximum allowable I’d say, 

26 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

I still don't see where that figure originates from.

This article by Leigh Curtis from yesterday morning says "understood to be £7.3m", which again doesn't provide any evidence for the figure.

Dominic Dietrich’s tweets states 7.3m after he’d read the report. Either way it’s significantly less than the £17m Maguire is using as it’s spurious headline grabbing figure, otherwise we’d be in breach of the EFL agreement 

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2 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

I missed that bit. Where does it say that?

1 minute ago, Ghost of Clough said:

I missed that bit. Where does it say that?

In one of the original posts on this thread

21 hours ago, RoyMac5 said:

 

Maguire misrepresenting wages. Gives wage bill as £17m and 84% of turnover, but fails to say that’s all employees and players wages are only £7m and 35% of turnover (much lower than the allowable percentage for players wages)

guarantee gump fans will be bleating about our high wage bill breaking the rules

maybe just maybe the EFL haven’t held anything up

maybe the deal is just a bit complex and not a quick approval against the agreed business plan.

2 hours ago, valakari said:

While Warne is here, good technical footballers will be offsky..eg, Knight & Bird.

Hourihane has already said he is off, and i wouldn't be surprised if Sibley and Thompson don't leave too.

Warne likes speedsters, athletes & hard men...technical players just get by passed on the whole.

Shame, but this is why we play awful football and worry more about the opposition.

That said, if he gets us up, fair play, but i won't watch his style of football in the championship...because it won't work!

Really?

Lack of pace really has done for us in the championship in the past

lack of hard workers tracking back and defending Too

1 minute ago, May Contain Nuts said:

With a 4 year contract,  all of the hype behind his appointment and a 5 year plan, the standards are higher than that.

Not right now they’re not. To judge possible success in the championship now is ludicrous. 
 

he has a four year deal, if we go up this season he has two years left. Stay up twice would be the realistic expectation but only after we get promotion. Until such time my only expectation of him is to get us promoted.

26 minutes ago, May Contain Nuts said:

It's not one experience at one club, it's three.

Look at other clubs who's manager could only find success managing that club? Errrrm, OK? I wouldn't particularly back Jones or Wilder either, just as I wouldn't want us to appoint Aidy Boothroyd even though his achievements are bigger than Warne's. Phil Brown has  more to his CV than Warne but nobody would put him forward as the next DCFC manager

We're not a replica of Rotherham but.. we're hardly dissimilar, and this is just another "well what if things turn out better, even though I have no evidence they will" style post. There's nothing to suggest Warne will have greater backing in the Championship either. It's all just blind faith because we're doing well where Warne is comfortable.

The way YOU carry on we've appointed a complete unknown who we should have no expectation of, but the hype around the bloke has been insane, and the standards he has to live up to will naturally follow.

The standards he has to live up to are simply to get promotion. The expectation of style of play is too high and irrelevant. We play in equal parts during matches - fast paced attacking, one touch, free flowing football alongside the hard working defensive workmanlike play.

No fit strikers

but we still managed to be the better team and have a threat in front of goal 

he’s a crap manager

6 hours ago, Comrade 86 said:

Strong start from Scotland. France conversely, seem to have spat the dummy without Ntamack and Dupont their to marshal them. Aldrit was huge in the first game but not many others showed up and they need to settle down and graft. You have to build pressure in this game, before you get to throw the ball wide.

The jocks were robbed 

He was injured - struggling with his knee so sensible with two games in a week coming up

4 minutes ago, Spanish said:

@davenportram

Yep no transfer embargo - but there’s still a registration embargo in place with every deal under financial scrutiny 

8 minutes ago, Spanish said:

Nope our business plan that DC believes is competitive that was presented to the EFL who had no objections to OUR plan

Every signing still has to be ratified by the league financially which is more than other clubs have to go through - en extra level of scrutiny, a registration embargo and agreed wage caps and transfer fee caps. Hardly a free reign for DC to set his own budget

3 minutes ago, Spanish said:

Yes our business plan

A simple google yields this 

https://www.efl.com/news/2022/july/efl-statement-derby-county-exit-administration/

but of course doesn’t fit what you think or your complaint of Warner’s actions

1 minute ago, Spanish said:

Yes our business plan

Nope agreed with the EFL so they have input on what we can spend 

1 hour ago, Spanish said:

Don’t be insulting.  Nothing you have indicated shows we are working to  an exceptional EFL restriction.  We maybe of course but someone needs to prove it.  I still hold to the belief that we are working within our own budget.  We have used the loan pot for a purchase and pre advised EFL so they don’t assume it is another underhand trick.  DC is rightly cautious and may even use some of the sale proceeds from Bird and maybe even has from Knight to help cover some of the running costs.  We will see when the transfer pot gets used in the summer

Go back and read around the conditions for leaving administration. We are operating under an agreed EFL business plan for two years. Every transaction has to be within this business plan.