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    Norman got a reaction from GboroRam in Rams Trust: A Letter to the Club   
    Did this letter represent everyone's views? Nah. It didn't represent mine. But if you honestly don't think that letter gave the club a kick up the arse to open communication back up with not only individual fans, but groups previously in communication with them, then I don't know what to say. 
    Maybe I could shout 'super fan' etc at people who support Derby and have major concerns. The poll that was done showed the letter actually contained wholly or mostly concerns from the majority of the fan base. 
    Was it really that hard for the club to release a statement at the end of the season to state they are waiting for government decisions before releasing season ticket information? 
    Was it really that hard for the club to start realising maybe these meetings with supporters could be done virtually and they should have still been doing them over the last 6 months?
    There is nothing in the letter that I couldn't have written, that's not the point. Fans, and I can't be alone on this, were getting concerned at the complete blackout of communication. We went from Mel turning up to your local pub to going on Talksport to duck all. If Mel is unwell and unable to perform these duties, then there really should be someone put in place who can. 
    It seems this club has taken advantage of the fact we cannot attend games or supporters meetings. That is from the players right up to the boardroom. The entire performance of this club over the last 12 months has been amateur. 
    I also find it nice to hear that there are potential, 'credible' investors in conversation with us. Because officially, we didn't know. Just rumours from journalists. It's actually eased my worries that the lack of communication was based on a lack of interest in the purchasing of the club and we were in deep poo. Maybe we still are.
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    Norman got a reaction from Angry Ram in Rams Trust: A Letter to the Club   
    Did this letter represent everyone's views? Nah. It didn't represent mine. But if you honestly don't think that letter gave the club a kick up the arse to open communication back up with not only individual fans, but groups previously in communication with them, then I don't know what to say. 
    Maybe I could shout 'super fan' etc at people who support Derby and have major concerns. The poll that was done showed the letter actually contained wholly or mostly concerns from the majority of the fan base. 
    Was it really that hard for the club to release a statement at the end of the season to state they are waiting for government decisions before releasing season ticket information? 
    Was it really that hard for the club to start realising maybe these meetings with supporters could be done virtually and they should have still been doing them over the last 6 months?
    There is nothing in the letter that I couldn't have written, that's not the point. Fans, and I can't be alone on this, were getting concerned at the complete blackout of communication. We went from Mel turning up to your local pub to going on Talksport to duck all. If Mel is unwell and unable to perform these duties, then there really should be someone put in place who can. 
    It seems this club has taken advantage of the fact we cannot attend games or supporters meetings. That is from the players right up to the boardroom. The entire performance of this club over the last 12 months has been amateur. 
    I also find it nice to hear that there are potential, 'credible' investors in conversation with us. Because officially, we didn't know. Just rumours from journalists. It's actually eased my worries that the lack of communication was based on a lack of interest in the purchasing of the club and we were in deep poo. Maybe we still are.
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    Norman got a reaction from Colm in Rams Trust: A Letter to the Club   
    Did this letter represent everyone's views? Nah. It didn't represent mine. But if you honestly don't think that letter gave the club a kick up the arse to open communication back up with not only individual fans, but groups previously in communication with them, then I don't know what to say. 
    Maybe I could shout 'super fan' etc at people who support Derby and have major concerns. The poll that was done showed the letter actually contained wholly or mostly concerns from the majority of the fan base. 
    Was it really that hard for the club to release a statement at the end of the season to state they are waiting for government decisions before releasing season ticket information? 
    Was it really that hard for the club to start realising maybe these meetings with supporters could be done virtually and they should have still been doing them over the last 6 months?
    There is nothing in the letter that I couldn't have written, that's not the point. Fans, and I can't be alone on this, were getting concerned at the complete blackout of communication. We went from Mel turning up to your local pub to going on Talksport to duck all. If Mel is unwell and unable to perform these duties, then there really should be someone put in place who can. 
    It seems this club has taken advantage of the fact we cannot attend games or supporters meetings. That is from the players right up to the boardroom. The entire performance of this club over the last 12 months has been amateur. 
    I also find it nice to hear that there are potential, 'credible' investors in conversation with us. Because officially, we didn't know. Just rumours from journalists. It's actually eased my worries that the lack of communication was based on a lack of interest in the purchasing of the club and we were in deep poo. Maybe we still are.
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    Norman got a reaction from Leeds Ram in Rams Trust: A Letter to the Club   
    Did this letter represent everyone's views? Nah. It didn't represent mine. But if you honestly don't think that letter gave the club a kick up the arse to open communication back up with not only individual fans, but groups previously in communication with them, then I don't know what to say. 
    Maybe I could shout 'super fan' etc at people who support Derby and have major concerns. The poll that was done showed the letter actually contained wholly or mostly concerns from the majority of the fan base. 
    Was it really that hard for the club to release a statement at the end of the season to state they are waiting for government decisions before releasing season ticket information? 
    Was it really that hard for the club to start realising maybe these meetings with supporters could be done virtually and they should have still been doing them over the last 6 months?
    There is nothing in the letter that I couldn't have written, that's not the point. Fans, and I can't be alone on this, were getting concerned at the complete blackout of communication. We went from Mel turning up to your local pub to going on Talksport to duck all. If Mel is unwell and unable to perform these duties, then there really should be someone put in place who can. 
    It seems this club has taken advantage of the fact we cannot attend games or supporters meetings. That is from the players right up to the boardroom. The entire performance of this club over the last 12 months has been amateur. 
    I also find it nice to hear that there are potential, 'credible' investors in conversation with us. Because officially, we didn't know. Just rumours from journalists. It's actually eased my worries that the lack of communication was based on a lack of interest in the purchasing of the club and we were in deep poo. Maybe we still are.
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    Norman got a reaction from ariotofmyown in Rams Trust: A Letter to the Club   
    Did this letter represent everyone's views? Nah. It didn't represent mine. But if you honestly don't think that letter gave the club a kick up the arse to open communication back up with not only individual fans, but groups previously in communication with them, then I don't know what to say. 
    Maybe I could shout 'super fan' etc at people who support Derby and have major concerns. The poll that was done showed the letter actually contained wholly or mostly concerns from the majority of the fan base. 
    Was it really that hard for the club to release a statement at the end of the season to state they are waiting for government decisions before releasing season ticket information? 
    Was it really that hard for the club to start realising maybe these meetings with supporters could be done virtually and they should have still been doing them over the last 6 months?
    There is nothing in the letter that I couldn't have written, that's not the point. Fans, and I can't be alone on this, were getting concerned at the complete blackout of communication. We went from Mel turning up to your local pub to going on Talksport to duck all. If Mel is unwell and unable to perform these duties, then there really should be someone put in place who can. 
    It seems this club has taken advantage of the fact we cannot attend games or supporters meetings. That is from the players right up to the boardroom. The entire performance of this club over the last 12 months has been amateur. 
    I also find it nice to hear that there are potential, 'credible' investors in conversation with us. Because officially, we didn't know. Just rumours from journalists. It's actually eased my worries that the lack of communication was based on a lack of interest in the purchasing of the club and we were in deep poo. Maybe we still are.
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    Norman got a reaction from IslandExile in Rams Trust: A Letter to the Club   
    Did this letter represent everyone's views? Nah. It didn't represent mine. But if you honestly don't think that letter gave the club a kick up the arse to open communication back up with not only individual fans, but groups previously in communication with them, then I don't know what to say. 
    Maybe I could shout 'super fan' etc at people who support Derby and have major concerns. The poll that was done showed the letter actually contained wholly or mostly concerns from the majority of the fan base. 
    Was it really that hard for the club to release a statement at the end of the season to state they are waiting for government decisions before releasing season ticket information? 
    Was it really that hard for the club to start realising maybe these meetings with supporters could be done virtually and they should have still been doing them over the last 6 months?
    There is nothing in the letter that I couldn't have written, that's not the point. Fans, and I can't be alone on this, were getting concerned at the complete blackout of communication. We went from Mel turning up to your local pub to going on Talksport to duck all. If Mel is unwell and unable to perform these duties, then there really should be someone put in place who can. 
    It seems this club has taken advantage of the fact we cannot attend games or supporters meetings. That is from the players right up to the boardroom. The entire performance of this club over the last 12 months has been amateur. 
    I also find it nice to hear that there are potential, 'credible' investors in conversation with us. Because officially, we didn't know. Just rumours from journalists. It's actually eased my worries that the lack of communication was based on a lack of interest in the purchasing of the club and we were in deep poo. Maybe we still are.
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    Norman reacted to sage in Rams Trust: A Letter to the Club   
    SP kind of implies it, but a straightforward 'the club will not go into administration on my watch' would have helped put minds at rest. 
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    Norman reacted to Ambitious in Rams Trust: A Letter to the Club   
    Reading between the lines on the statement: Mel Morris will continue to fund the club going forward and will continue to put the emphasis on the academy. I'd expect us to utilise the loan market to its full potential and free / low value signings. I would assume a lot of free transfers end up earning more because they don't need a transfer fee. 
    We look set for more negotiations with 'credible' parties, however the other two would've been classed as credible at one point. I'd suspect Mel is very much planning on funding us through to the start of the season. 
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    Norman reacted to Ambitious in **DCFC Fans Player Of The Season**   
    Without Bielik, we would've been dead and buried bottom of the league for the last 2 months of the season. He's the sole reason we are still a Championship club. No other player: Byrne, Shinnie, whoever never did anything more than 'ok'. 
    I get that he didn't play enough games to be voted by some, but do those same people realise that most of our wins came in the games he played? Any vote for any other player than Bielik is a vote for a player who was subsequently influential in our demise. 
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    Norman reacted to Pearl Ram in Who/What/Why   
    Seriously, I don’t care. If the thread title was Demi Lovato Announces Non Binary Status, I wouldn’t have read it but the Who/What/Why title provoked my interest so I opened the thread.
    All smacks of attention seeking with a smattering of self indulgence to me. 🙄
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    Norman reacted to TexasRam in Who/What/Why   
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    Norman reacted to Angry Ram in Rams Trust: A Letter to the Club   
    ‘From the top’
    &
    ’Derby County Football Club’
    Thats how the last two communications I have seen have been signed. Something is amiss here. 
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    Norman reacted to Mucker1884 in 21/22 Season Tickets   
    Meant to say...
    on top of those (reputed) 11,000 freebie/credited renewals, there would still be others wanting to renew, that have no available credit.  OK, maybe only a thousand or so?  Maybe even just a few hundred?  But it would still be cash coming in.  What business would say no to "cash now... potential refunds/headache later"?
    This ain't no waiting game.  There are other reasons behind us not being able to renew yet.  To my embarrassment, I haven't got a clue what those reasons would be!
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    Norman reacted to Ambitious in 21/22 Season Tickets   
    They could explain why tickets aren't on sale, rather than 'we currently don't have any information regarding 2021-22 season tickets'. I'm not saying the club not putting the tickets on sale is pitiful - but the communication towards the fans is rotten. 
    It doesn't help that 90% of clubs have had no issues putting theirs up for sale whilst we're (apparently) waiting for the government to give the go ahead? It just seems strange to me. We're only guessing that we're waiting for the government to give the go ahead because the club haven't said anything at all. 
    Do we assume we're waiting until June 21st before putting them on sale - maybe longer? I don't think it's asking for much to just have a little bit of an outline. It's easy to see why fans are getting pissed off. 
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    Norman reacted to angieram in Rams Trust: A Letter to the Club   
    I think Punjabi Rams are great. 👍
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    Norman reacted to RadioactiveWaste in The letter: A follow up Poll   
    I've no problem with the letter, I've no problem with it being "on behalf of DCFC supporters".
    I would just have pretty reasonable expectations about what it might achieve.
    When the answer to most of the points raised is a combination of "don't know" "we're working on that" "nothing is set in stone yet" "we really can't discuss that in a public space right now" - there is very little to be gained from a totally honest, transparent and open statement of "we don't know, we're working on it, nothing is set in stone and there are things we cannot discuss publicly at this time".
    I would make a exception to that on the ST refunds - that should've been sorted a long time ago and is something that any business should be able to perform and communicate clearly on.
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    Norman reacted to David in Rams Trust: A Letter to the Club   
    Great questions to be fair and why I personally chose to decline the invitation to co sign, reading the replies has justified my position.
    I'm not sure how the supporter groups handle this issue of speaking on behalf of their members, be it votes, meetings or what and to be honest it is't any of my business either. 
    The way I look at it is if you are a Labour member, vote Labour, this doesn't mean you agree with every point on their manifesto. You simply agree with what they are trying to achieve.
    We're never going to agree on every aspect of the club from pitch to boardroom, 1 day on this forum will show that, but why knock others for having different opinions, strong opinions that they felt the need to act? 
    Having read the letter and despite not signing it, I never felt once that they were trying in anyway speaking on behalf of myself personally, which the topic is getting lost in and the "who do they think they are". They are Derby fans. 
    Would it not be a far better discussion if it focused on the points in the letter and why you agree or disagree, the forum is a platform designed to hold discussions, was never intended as a battle base to throw stones at other supporter groups or fans from other platforms.
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    Norman reacted to Angry Ram in Rams Trust: A Letter to the Club   
    It's only a letter. Why are we all getting precious about a word?
    Morris will know it's not 100% reflective of the fanbase.
    It will get ignored anyway.
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    Norman reacted to BaaLocks in Rams Trust: A Letter to the Club   
    1: Fair enough, didn't hear it so can't comment.
    2: I don't think anyone is suggesting the club's business should be done in public, as I've just said on another thread. To your point four, we're just paying customers. But we do have a right to ask the questions, just as we would ask Nike if they use Thai sweatshops to make their products or Pret to see if they use line caught tuna in their baguettes. As for takeover news, I'm really very happy the way the Alonso discussions went, if 11 Points or anyone else did 1% of preventing that clown being near our club then thank you all for that.
    3: As stated elsewhere, I don't agree on their using this situation to restate a claim to be at board meetings. We agree.
    4: Yes, I am a customer of Derby County. They made me that years ago when they asked me to buy three shirts a season, introduced dynamic pricing, charged me >£40 to watch a single match. Yup, that is what my club is now - a product that I choose to enjoy when it suits me. But it is one I think we are able to ask questions of, for exactly that reason. The days of blind faith and following your club till you die are gone, the bonds are broken from both sides, so you are able to challenge it as a customer, like you say, and that is all that has been done. If the club don't want to answer the questions / can't answer the questions then 'no comment' will have to suffice and move on.
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    Norman reacted to DarkFruitsRam7 in Rams Trust: A Letter to the Club   
    Technically? You're correct, we don't have a right to demand anything of any owner. And I certainly don't think things have got to the point where we need to be demanding takeover information.
    However, there are certain things that I'd fully support fans of any club standing up for and requesting answers to. The Super League proposal being one. Fans' hard-earned season ticket money being another.
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    Norman reacted to BaaLocks in Rams Trust: A Letter to the Club   
    Jeez, our club is in the poop, nobody knows what going on and the thing that animates more than most posting in this thread is that they weren't consulted, we've got a poet signing it and someone who signed it blocked a poster on this forum or they think the tone is a bit aloof.
    It's a request for info, written by a group of fans who - collectively - have a fair claim to represent more than a single point of view. If you care enough then join Ramstrust (trust me, they will happily take all the help they can get) or set up your own group. I might get on my hind legs at Nick claiming to speak for the fans but at least he's making the effort to do so, not sitting behind some keyboard going 'well they didn't ask me before sending it'.
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    Norman reacted to BaaLocks in Rams Trust: A Letter to the Club   
    That's a bit harsh, they have done everything they can to put as many representative signatures to the letter as possible. I don't feel they are trying to speak for me but they are trying to say that the views presented in that letter are shared beyond any one group. I don't agree with all the points (particularly the one on board meetings - that is them using this situation to reignite their agenda) but the bulk of what is asked for is pretty level and fair. If nothing else, at least they took the time to put it together and register with the owners the general concern of the club - I don't find that self important as an aim.
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    Norman reacted to Highgate in Rooney In!   
    And surely that startling admission (among others) should have worried any Rams fan. First of all it goes without saying that every team is trying to get the points. However, openly admitting that there was no consistent game plan for the majority of a season is surely almost unprecedented by a manager.  That there is a strong positive correlation between a team knowing what it's supposed to be doing every week and results is surely not a controversial statement. 
    It's hardly any wonder we saw player's performance go backwards. They were being asked to prepare differently and play differently for every single match. 
    We are really lucky we stayed up at all. 
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    Norman reacted to IslandExile in Rooney In!   
    Do you not think those reasons applied to Cocu's term aswell?
    I recall at the time you were saying Cocu should be doing better with the squad that he had available.
    At the start of this season, we had no fit forwards and Bielik was out.
    But, as others have pointed out, you are inconsistent to an extraordinary degree.
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    Norman reacted to Highgate in Rooney In!   
    It seems to me that the only reason to keep Rooney is that we simply can't afford to sack him.  There isn't any other logical reason to keep him and there is no evidence to suggest that he will do a decent job next season.  Everything about his management during the run in was ineffectual, muddled and dispiriting.  Believing he has what it takes to be a good, or even adequate, manager at Championship level is simply wishful thinking as far as I'm concerned.
    But if we really can't afford to sack him then I fear we might be stuck with him for a while longer. 
    Come to think of it, we couldn't afford to sack Cocu either.
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