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    Norman got a reaction from 86 Schmokes & a Pancake in The Politics Thread 2019   
    Unfortunately for you, most people who have similar political views to you are gender fluid attack helicopters who belive men can have periods. They shut down debate and don't want to hear opposing views. They like to use violence, accuse normal people of being transphobic Nazis who don't respect that they want to be a Badger for the day.  Basically, full blown fascists.
    And anti-semetic. 
    And jobless. 
    See, so easy to stereotype. When in reality it's a very small part of a vote. 
     
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    Norman got a reaction from 86 Schmokes & a Pancake in The Politics Thread 2019   
    If you think over the next 4 years, letting in another 1.2 million is a good idea for the NHS then that is project stupidity. 
    I don't care about past governments. It's gone. I vote on the her and now. 
    If you think the NHS will be privatised it will be because we have run out of funding. 
    And that funding will run out because the infrastructure needed for such vast numbers costs too much and takes too long to implement. 
    The fastest way to privatise the NHS is Corbyn. He would wreck it. 
    I didn't vote for Cameron. If you think the Labour Party don't make changes to what they have stated, then you must have had your head in the sand for the last 3 and a half years. 
     
    Let us not forget which party has privatised the most of the NHS as well.. 
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    Norman got a reaction from Angry Ram in The Politics Thread 2019   
    Mate, you have issues. If I was to guess, I would say you didn't like the way the thread was going. So you charged in. And that didn't go to plan either. 
    Then you had a hissy fit and started blocking people, jumping in where you had not read properly and resorted to racism and Hitler. 
    Well done you. Fine 3 pages of utter poo. 
    As only 1 person has even bothered to respond to all of my points that I was asked to express, I would take that as not being bitch slapped around. You haven't done it anyway. And let's be honest, you've tried your best. 
    I also expressed my view as an opinion. Not as a fact. So you probably didn't read that very well either. 
    The polarised views I have posted over the last few days is just pushing back on what many on here do the other way round. Obviously you don't like it, but presumably enjoy it when it's the other way round. 
    We arent going to be Internet friends. I can just tell. 
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    Norman got a reaction from Andicis in The Politics Thread 2019   
    Mate, you have issues. If I was to guess, I would say you didn't like the way the thread was going. So you charged in. And that didn't go to plan either. 
    Then you had a hissy fit and started blocking people, jumping in where you had not read properly and resorted to racism and Hitler. 
    Well done you. Fine 3 pages of utter poo. 
    As only 1 person has even bothered to respond to all of my points that I was asked to express, I would take that as not being bitch slapped around. You haven't done it anyway. And let's be honest, you've tried your best. 
    I also expressed my view as an opinion. Not as a fact. So you probably didn't read that very well either. 
    The polarised views I have posted over the last few days is just pushing back on what many on here do the other way round. Obviously you don't like it, but presumably enjoy it when it's the other way round. 
    We arent going to be Internet friends. I can just tell. 
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    Norman got a reaction from Andicis in The Politics Thread 2019   
    Yeah, cos you don't ducking read, do you? 
    You lost the debate on the poster, then brought up Hitler. Just read. It saves me having to type another post out. 
    What a waste of time. I'd put you on block, not because of your views or your points.
    But the fact you don't ducking read what is written. 
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    Norman got a reaction from G STAR RAM in The Politics Thread 2019   
    Mate, you have issues. If I was to guess, I would say you didn't like the way the thread was going. So you charged in. And that didn't go to plan either. 
    Then you had a hissy fit and started blocking people, jumping in where you had not read properly and resorted to racism and Hitler. 
    Well done you. Fine 3 pages of utter poo. 
    As only 1 person has even bothered to respond to all of my points that I was asked to express, I would take that as not being bitch slapped around. You haven't done it anyway. And let's be honest, you've tried your best. 
    I also expressed my view as an opinion. Not as a fact. So you probably didn't read that very well either. 
    The polarised views I have posted over the last few days is just pushing back on what many on here do the other way round. Obviously you don't like it, but presumably enjoy it when it's the other way round. 
    We arent going to be Internet friends. I can just tell. 
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    Norman reacted to Angry Ram in The Politics Thread 2019   
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    Norman reacted to i-Ram in The Politics Thread 2019   
    Been a pretty desperate day on this thread today. Found myself wanting to listen to what some politicians have to say.
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    Norman reacted to reverendo de duivel in The Politics Thread 2019   
    I'm of a similar viewpoint, voted leave because however you dress it up the way the EU conducts it's affairs is far from democratic and open.
    When I read reports of MEP's having to sign NDA's and being searched for writing and recording equipment before being allowed merely to view the draft of the biggest trade deal in history, that's simply not right.
    You'd think reform of the EU would be high on the agenda of other countries too, but it seems not. Merkel certainly enjoyed Cameron playing bad cop when it came to the last EU budget settlement, driving down the amount the EU wanted, but gave him nothing in return when it came to reform.
    Now the EU are requesting an above inflation rise in the next funding round, despite probably losing a large net contribution from the UK, perhaps she regrets her earlier lack of support for reform.
    Yet despite all that, if we could go back in time I'd vote remain. It's simply not been worth the division and paralysis in domestic politics since.
    Which may of course have been the plan of the EU, supported by sections of the British political system ever since the vote.
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    Norman got a reaction from Angry Ram in The Politics Thread 2019   
    Yeah, cos you don't ducking read, do you? 
    You lost the debate on the poster, then brought up Hitler. Just read. It saves me having to type another post out. 
    What a waste of time. I'd put you on block, not because of your views or your points.
    But the fact you don't ducking read what is written. 
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    Norman got a reaction from Angry Ram in The Politics Thread 2019   
    You calling him racist? You might as well just say it. 
    Go to your safe space or something. 
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    Norman reacted to maxjam in The Politics Thread 2019   
    I guess if you take his comments out of context it doesn't sound very controlled.  TBH I haven't heard what Raab said but as far as I'm aware the Tory pledge is to reduce overall immigration, reduce unskilled migrants and introduce a points based system - seems like a better idea than just allowing thr first 300k people into the country then shutting the door. 
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50412772
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    Norman got a reaction from maxjam in The Politics Thread 2019   
    Actually, our economy hasn't been thriving, has it? Things have never been so bad if you look at most of the posts by Labour voters on here. 
    This is the most free, democratic, diverse, educated country on the planet. People will always want to live here. It's a brilliant country. It always will be. Which is why record numbers still want to come here. 
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    Norman got a reaction from cstand in The Politics Thread 2019   
    You're strange. I wasn't even talking about you. I don't even know if you've posted much in this thread before. 
    I haven't talked about the poster either. 
    When did refugees come into it? I want controlled immigration.
    You can't call someone racist for wanting controlled immigration to protect services that are failing. 
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    Norman got a reaction from cstand in The Politics Thread 2019   
    Actually, our economy hasn't been thriving, has it? Things have never been so bad if you look at most of the posts by Labour voters on here. 
    This is the most free, democratic, diverse, educated country on the planet. People will always want to live here. It's a brilliant country. It always will be. Which is why record numbers still want to come here. 
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    Norman reacted to maxjam in The Politics Thread 2019   
    You'll have to point out to me the posts in which I portray 'some sort of forlorn victim status' or moaned about being held account for my views.  I have never tried to close down debate.  I am tried of 'my side' of the argument continually having to defend themselves from underhand accusations of racism however despite repeatedly stating immigration isn't the problem, uncontrolled immigration is.
     
    Its comments like your final sentence that lead me to believe that you don't really care for my answer.  IMO you're very adept at avoiding answers youself whilst flipping the question back to whoever you're talking to.  You brushed off my question with a couple of short sentence answers but ask me to elaborate mine 😕
    I posted this over the weekend;
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/19/tony-blair-admits-did-not-realise-many-migrants-would-come-uk/
    How can we possibly plan adequately for the future we even Tony Blair didn't realise how many people would come to the UK?
    With regards to controlling migration the Tories have put forwards a new immigration policiy which is a start.  I'll choose my words carefully and leave it at that.
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    Norman got a reaction from maxjam in The Politics Thread 2019   
    Actually it isn't. Blair stealthily introduced free movement. Hard to plan for something you can't see coming. 
    The rest is such a poo argument. You can't just say we should be able to take on a city the size of Newcastle a year, and have enough money and resources to build brand new prisons, roads, rails, hospitals etc. 
    It costs far more than what you collect in taxes from 300,000 people. 
     
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    Norman got a reaction from maxjam in The Politics Thread 2019   
    Bit hard to follow your manifesto through with no, or tiny majority. As we have seen with Brexit. 
    Funding in the NHS is at an all time high, but yet per head it is less. I wonder why. Maybe the population is going up faster than we can afford to let it, both by infrastructure and money? 
    The years of austerity. Wonder why we had them? If only we could get all that gold back. 
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    Norman got a reaction from Angry Ram in The Politics Thread 2019   
    If all else fails. Call racism.
    Can't answer questions on politics? Racism
    Don't like progressive ideas like free broadband? Racism
    Don't like the current Labour Party? Racism
    Like Brexit? Racism
    Don't want public services and infrastructure completely crippled? Racism
    Vote Conservative because there is very little option? Tory boy, racist, NHS ruining, Cameron apologising, war backing, knuckle dragging racist.
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    Norman got a reaction from maxjam in The Politics Thread 2019   
    You're strange. I wasn't even talking about you. I don't even know if you've posted much in this thread before. 
    I haven't talked about the poster either. 
    When did refugees come into it? I want controlled immigration.
    You can't call someone racist for wanting controlled immigration to protect services that are failing. 
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    Norman got a reaction from maxjam in The Politics Thread 2019   
    If all else fails. Call racism.
    Can't answer questions on politics? Racism
    Don't like progressive ideas like free broadband? Racism
    Don't like the current Labour Party? Racism
    Like Brexit? Racism
    Don't want public services and infrastructure completely crippled? Racism
    Vote Conservative because there is very little option? Tory boy, racist, NHS ruining, Cameron apologising, war backing, knuckle dragging racist.
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    Norman reacted to G STAR RAM in The Politics Thread 2019   
    Here we go...
    The Remainers have sniffed some posts that they can call racist and are back out in force...
    They were so quiet as well this morning when actually being asked about politics!
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    Norman reacted to G STAR RAM in The Politics Thread 2019   
    Because you have no valid points to make?
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    Norman reacted to SchtivePesley in The Politics Thread 2019   
    Those aren't answers though - they are simply points to be made, and I accept them. I'm saying that the reactionaries (which I didn't specifically name you, but let's go with that - as you assumed I did anyway) - have no answers to the problems that we're trying to solve here. You claim to be interested in politics, but all you ever really do is shoot down progressive arguments - there is never a "we should try this instead". Apart from that one time when you said we should increase limits on immigration so that your kid's school didn't have to hire any more interpreters
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    Norman got a reaction from maxjam in The Politics Thread 2019   
    We could not afford to start the NHS from scratch now, and you know it.
    There is 500+ pages over 2 threads of you telling people to worry about the financial implications of Brexit. But now it's Labour, it is fine. 
    It's the hypocrisy that gets to me. 
    And where would you put broadband in your list of priorities for this country? 
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