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Really 🤣 How much preparation time did he have 😂 McGoldrick was our talisman last season and hardly played under Liam. To get that team 7th under the circumstances, the same position Warney got us at the end of the season, was good enough in my book 😊

A fit McGoldrick might have helped 😉

People have always used the away record as a stick to beat Liam with.  We only played four away games in the league and had barely had a pre-season.  It's too small a sample size to judge. 
We absolutely battered Charlton and lost 1 nil.  Battered Fleetwood and couldn't put the ball in the net.  Admittedly we were poor against Shrewsbury and Lincoln but by God we've had worse performances under Warne and far more often as well.   

I enjoyed all of the games under Rosenior.  It was a million times more entertaining than the dross Warne has served up here.
Also we had about 26 shots away at Fleetwood and couldn't put the ball in the net.  Cautious??? Don't think so.

To state the obvious because McGoldrick was by far our best player & leading scorer - Warne had access to him, Rosenior didn't. Despite that, Warne's points per game last season was only marginally better than Rosenior (1.7 PPG v 1.6 PPG) and of course Warne was unable to improve on the 7th position Rosenior left us in. Not exactly compelling either.

In my opinion it is largely the coaching, probably with a smidgeon of the players losing heart because they know they are being asked to do what doesn't work. The last time we saw the fans turning against him was after the Stevenage, Cheltenham and Port Vale debacles, and suddenly we started to include playing the ball near to ground level, and including some of the midfield players, and all of a sudden we were on that good run of results. But gradually we wormed our way back to "lump it and cross it" and the run came to an end. Then dial in the fact that Warne is chopping and changing the team all the team to try and not lose against whoever we happen to playing at the time, leaving the players not having a clue what they are supposed to be doing, especially as he changes the formation several time in a single match. And the players are unable to build up an understanding of how their team mates play, which then contributes to the poor passing performances. It is one hell of a mess.

He won four and lost three out of nine league games. He didn’t win an away league game.
Why is McGoldrick being injured or unfit always used as a shield for Rosenior? We have had so many unfortunate injuries under Warne and no-one seems to sympathise.
For Rosenior, 14 points from 27 points simply wasn’t a compelling audition for the full time role assuming he wanted it.
He is doing a good job at Hull at the moment, but in what way are the circumstances at Hull comparable to ours?

Indeed. He managed to cobble together a squad in 5 minutes, had very little time to get them ready for the new season but still got them just outside the play offs. You could see what the plan was, what the tactics were. Two seasons in I am still pretty clueless as to what our plan is under Warne. There wasn’t the need to make the change at that time. I am pleased that Liam is doing such a good job at Hull. A good young, progressive manager that I for one wish was still with the 🐏. When/if we replace Warne I hope we go for a young, exciting coach like Ipswich, Southampton and Hull have done 😊

He also stuck around through all the mess and you could tell he loved being at Derby. His rushed transfer window was better than the 3 warne has had and the summer one just under severely less restrictions and a lot more time to plan. 
 
knew the game plan and didn’t alter it to combat other teams we concentrated on ourselves. 

At least games we didn’t win I was at least entertained and we had attempts on goal. Most game we were having 20 odd attempts at goal but just couldn’t score. Add to that season mcgoldrick scored most of our goals and he couldn’t use him he could have made a real difference to Roseniors short stint. Apart from the Lincoln game I enjoyed most of the games under Rosenior now I don’t enjoy games full stop apart from to say we won a game. A season ticket is a lot of money to go to games not for the omens but more of a chore to do so and this season and last I don’t get to Friday and think get in we have a game tomorrow but I will carry on going to game regardless as that’s what us Derby fans do 

Rosenior's record wasn't very poor - he had us in the same place Warne finished only without the benefit of  McGoldrick 90% of the time.    He's showing at Hull that we should have kept him.

Rosenior is only “oft mentioned” these days by people who want to tell everyone how bad his football apparently was over and over again.

Nah,mostly those who still haven't let him go,why would the rest of us be interested?
If we want to lament a manager who actually was both our manager and a bloody good one,let's talk about Stevie Mac,not someone who had a very poor record here both as an assistant and as temporary gaffer.

Is this the same manager who currently has his Hull team in the top 6 of arguably the most competitive league in Europe? Yeah, s*** manager, give me Warne any day.

Dunno, you tell me, you brought him up.
Not wrong on McClaren though, wonder where we’d be if Mel hadn’t sacked him the first time and maybe even the second time. 

Defending Warne by saying we are second in the league is madness - this league is so poor and won’t be this poor next season - if you add the points he has thrown away by his negative and shockingly limited tactics we would be top and 10 points clear.
Not the performance I wanted on the day I receive an email asking me to part with £537 to renew my season ticket…

Frustratingly we had him here at the start of last season. Unfortunately we let him go. Can’t see Hull releasing him now. 

As mentioned before can see next season L1 being  a much tougher division to get out of L1 specialists Rotherham and teams like Charlton under Jones will be up there 
let’s get this right no matter what your opinion of Warne is …this division is really poor this season I don’t even think Pompey are that good so this season is a big missed oppurtunity if we don’t go up ….we are no better than any of the sides in the top 6!!!!! And I think with a bit more emphasis on control in games we should be 
Wildsmith was very rash tonight and substitutions were poor and couldn’t understand moving Cashin to LB ….bizarre 

Dire yet again. 
Get Warne gone and bring someone in to look at getting us promoted next year, playing actual football in the process.
Hilariously depressing to hear Washington is potentially out until the end of the season with a knee issue. An issue he’d had operated on in the summer, and we still chose to sign him knowing our budgets were limited. 
Who in their right mind would sign a 31 year old striker who has just had a knee op. I’m not sure what’s more amateur, Warnes tactics or his transfer decisions. 

Dont bother - i tried also but was just called blinkered etc by other posters. But I dont actually give a 💩 about any of it tonight as today my son got a medical school offer after 2 years of trying and I couldnt be prouder

How frustrating is it when Wildsmith catches the ball and just holds it for 30 seconds and then hoofs it long. Bowl it out quickly, get the play moving. It's so slow and ponderous.
Charlton in the first half were absolutely dreadful, and yet we created nothing. It can't go on like this. 
We haven't played well in months, we've just been going through the motions and scraping past poor sides. I'm fed up. Call me entitled, we deserve and should ask for better.

Didn’t Warne say we would be unrecognisable this season after a full pre season? Nothing has changed from this time last year when we played the likes of Fleetwood and Shrewsbury at home, after signing players to suit his style of play for the last two windows..
 
 
 

Sacking Rosenior is looking more ridiculous as days go by isn’t it 😢

It’s pretty crazy to think that we are second in the league table, heading for around 90 points which would be our best points tally in my lifetime at least, yet it’s just not enjoyable - I’d go as far as saying most weeks it’s a miserable watch.
Imagine if we were in Reading’s position?
I don’t see where we go under Warne. If he can’t make 2nd in the league and 90+ points enjoyable, how will he possibly win the fans over in the Championship? 
I reiterate, I think Warne gets us up. But if we stick with him, next season is going to be such a nightmare to watch as we won’t have the results to cover up the painful football. 

Define "decimated". In terms of players, we lost only Ryan, Eze (who joined us at the start of that season), and Kellyman from our academy sides during adminstration. Williams was a fringe first teamer by the time we sold him. In terms of staff, I beleive we no longer have any vacancies for academy roles.
Define "dreadful". Last season, the U18s finished 7th last season (2 points off 4th) and are currently 4th (3 points off 3rd) this season. Results for the U21s this season still aren't great, but if you'd watch them you'd know they aren't too far off the pace - evidenced by having lost by more than 1 goal only twice in all compettiions since September (a record which our first team also has).
It defeinitely won't take a "geenration" to get back to the levels we were at previously.
Warne has had a number of academy players participate in first team training. That doesn't mean he's willing to give them a go in the first team though. It also doesn't mean Warne is a good or bad judge of player. As I've stated many times before, there is also a difference between the ability of a squad/fringe player and a regular starter. Examples I gave in the past were Brown and O'Shea being good squad players at Man Utd, but less impressive as regulars for a struggling Sunderland side. You could also look at current PL sides and their use of academy players. For example, Liverpool have given Bobby Clark 6 appearances this season, but if they were to loan him out to a L1 side.
"If they're good enough" is only true if a manager is willing to give them a go. Thompson was good enough for 25 Championship games in the 21/22 season (1521 mins) but only good enough for 10 under Warne last season (159 minutes). Warne isn't the only manager guilty of it, but he absolutely is afraid of putting young players in incase they make mistakes.