andyburton72

Well the pejorative nature of the word might be a clue?
...unpleasantly proud and behaving as if you are more important than, or know more than, other people
It's not a trait we like in other fans and so perhaps some introspection would in fact be in order.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I have never noticed a Warne team playing hoofball, other than in desperation in the final five minutes. IMO, Warne's aim is to use movement and one/two touch passing to get the ball forward as quickly as possible. It's direct, but not exactly 1980s Wimbledon and Watford.

What a post!
I have no stats to back it up but under warne we always look like scoring i would imagine our xg proves this in comparison to rosenior or rooney or cocu? 
I know i am in the minority but i am happy to be more direct instead of passing sideways and backwards. 
Too many fans dont know the difference between possession and domination/control of a game

Not sure I can get get through a season of this ,,,,,, Warne s football ? Erm no ,these bloody match day threads 
reading how it’s beyond belief Bolton are so much better than us ,, really ? Really ? They fiddle arsed around ,created hardly anything and only scored with the help of a gift wrapped homer ref giving a disputed penalty and a flukey deflection and that’s against a ten man derby who had at least two real pens not given , one of which could have seen they’re player sent off and countless odd decisions, won’t be rushing to swap my season ticket for one at Bolton so I can watch that superior football 😂😂😂,
we wernt great and we lost 2/1 away at a promotion rival , it’s a long season in div 3 and it’s going to be even longer given that there’s some spewing so much bile to our manager win or lose

Nowhere near as bad as most are making out. 
 
 

I'll make this easy. 
@IlsonDerby  @Justa @8Leeds  @oodledoodle
I literally couldn't care either way with Paul Warne.
If you want to put the whole 90 last week down to luck and a purple patch, that's your prerogative. Miserable but it's your opinion. My opinion is you've absolutely sucked the life out of this thread with post after post of unbalanced, negative crap. But that's just me.
Enjoy the (likely) defeat. 

Today does count, but seemingly for some the mitigation around today is irrelevant? 
I get that Warne is seemingly limited and there are growing concerns on that basis, but surely some of the circumstances around todays game in isolation should be considered? A changed lineup due to injury and transfer speculation. A nasty injury early on changing things further. Poor officiating. A red card early in the second half meaning we play pretty much half the match against one of the better sides in the division with 10 men. And yet for all the misery it’s not been a complete hammering on the scoreline. 
Yes there’s a lot to be worked on, but for me today is just one of those rubbish days and it’s onto the next. 

I’m all for critical comments, but aren’t we playing away against a probable top six side with 10 men?

Apart from last week where we tore a promotion rival to shreds. 
 

I’ve always thought he was ‘pretty alright’. At Rotherham I liked his attitude, style and demeanour. There’s a pint of Ossett White Rat always waiting for PW. Our manager or not 🐏

Everything is fine again. HMS piss the league is back afloat.

Living on borrowed time, season over etc etc

Paul Warne out, he's not good enough etc etc.

I like Paul Warne and his staff, as people. 
 
From what I can tell, they're a decent, honest and principled bunch. 
 
I believe that's what attracted David Clowes to them in the first instance, alongside their record of success in League One. 
 
I'll also add that they saw those principles reflected in David Clowes, hence their decision to come on board.
 
From the start it was referenced by all parties the entire ethos of the club needed changing, and rebuilding work was needed from top to bottom, which is not the work of a moment, or indeed a few months. 
 
The backroom staff had been hollowed out to the bare minimum, across multiple departments. 
 
A review of the remaining staff saw several leave, and a new round of recruitment has taken place, building the club back up to operating strength across the board, from the casual staff,offices and the football support and academy roles, a process that is still ongoing.
 
That's not a normal issue that an incoming manager has to grapple with, rebuilding the back room to what it should be, while ensuring his requirements are met. We've seen a level of churn across the Academy management in that time, which must have demanded Warnes attention at various stages, in addition to the normal commitments management brings.
 
We've an owner learning about operating a football club, having taken over in sheer desperation, leaning on the manager he's appointed I presume, there seems to be no other football experts within his team we know of.
 
None of this is normal for a first team football manager, especially in his first job away from a much smaller club with different expectations, so mistakes and stumbles will inevitably happen. 

 
We got close enough last season that there were few grumbles about his position, yet after only two games, one in the league, there's a sizable minority calling for change, and a notable shift in how he's perceived. 
 
I'm not a natural defender of Warne, but will stand up for his work so far.
 
 I'm a self confessed football snob, and don't see him as the man to lead us back to the promised land of the Premier League, probably based around pre conceptions of his football philosophy rather than any evidence, but he's Clowes choice to launch that journey, and some of the criticism on here recently is well out of kilter with the job he's done so far.



 

I can remember the great bald Eagle having a terrible start to the season, I was at Tranmere away, Stimac debut, he scored we lost 5-1, I think we won 1, drew 1 and lost 3 of our first 5 games that season thats 4 points from 15 , fans screaming for Jimbo to do one, then come May we are promoted, we move to PP, and played some of the best football for years, lets all get behind our club, it's to early to panic, but after what Mel did to us, we must give our club time to recover, and we will. Once A Ram Always A Ram. 

Last season we came close
 
Close to playoffs
Close to top 2? Questionably. Had we been able to hold onto leads we would have gone up.
Warne sacked? After two games this season. Get real guys some of these threads just show the entitlement culture of current UK society. It’s going to be a hard slog to get promoted following administration. No matter what division you’ve just come down from.
 
defensively we’ve always been frail. I can’t remember many seasons where I was confident we’d not concede when noses in front. Even in promotion seasons. 
 
I know we need goals, but we also need to stop gifting chances to the opposition. 
 
 

Come on there’s thinking he’s not the right manager for derby , there’s wanting him out , fair do s , everybody has an opinion but the above  is just bull crap bile , he’s had three promotions at a club with not much budget , he’s made and is making a living from football management at a decent level not on a computer game , 
there’s levels and your way over the top ,verging on the kind of fan that chants the kind of stuff aimed at billy sharp

I am. Wigan are a good side who have only just come down. Their goal was a gift. We'd have been 1-0 up if the ref wasn't a div and the only man in the ground who missed that pen. We've had other chances, NML close, Collins close, thought Bradley's header was in too.
This is nowhere near as bad as some people are making out, against a decent Wigan side.

45 mins into the season ffs… give it a rest 
10 games then see whats occurring before dummys start being thrown out of prams 

at half time in the first game of the season, it shouldn't be difficult to hold your nerve

important to listen carefully to the long RD warne interview. He confirms that our owner’s caution and not the EFL is the reason for our lack of ambition in the window. DC has a duty to his wider family as custodian of their assets and we should expect nothing different. Fair play to him 

Appreciate he might not be as exciting as some of the names rumoured, but perhaps he could be what we need? Everyone lost their mind when Colin Kazim Richards signed but he was exactly what that team needed.
Just saying, if he signs then why not wait and see before writing him off...

Honestly wouldn’t mind him, he scores goals and that’s something we’re desperately missing right now. 1 year deal I don’t think is an awful bit of business. Person aside he’d be a quality signing for league 1

Well actually there was an uplift wasnt there…. Quite an epic one which at one point had us all dreaming of catching the running away with it top 2 
but then the toils of having the smallest squad in the league took its toll
funny what people chose to ignore and remember