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andyburton72

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    andyburton72 reacted to Leicester Ram in Warne Out Out   
    Don’t think Clowes was ever sacking him this week, would be too much of a Mel Morris move.
    He’s done the right thing by standing up to the Warne Out mob - even if that is now the majority of the fanbase, it still would have sent the wrong message if he’d buckled to fan pressure.
    Clowes is the one that saved the club, knows 95% more about what’s going on at the club than we do and knows what the financial implication of turfing out Warne would be
    It sounds like he’s giving him an unspecified amount of time to turn it around and treating Warne how we’d all want to be treated if we were in his shoes.
    Like Warne or not, this is the right way of doing things. You don’t discard managers after fan backlash - as much as we should be doing so much better than we are.
    As far as the football goes, Warne needs to win both of the fixtures this week if he’s ever going to win the lions share of the fans back. As much as I’ve preached patience, I expected we would improve after the international break and a managers job will always be in trouble at DCFC if we’re outside the top six of League One by December
    Warne in or Warne out, creating an inhospitable environment for a manager who has just been backed by Clowes would be very disappointing and I hope PP stays positive tonight.
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    andyburton72 reacted to Miggins in Derby County vs Stevenage (A) Match Thread   
    I think he has given this club the very best shot he could.
    If it's not enough, then fair play. He has done his best.
    But he is not a 'clown'. He certainly is not.
    I really hate seeing this term leveled at him.
    Whatever your opinions of him, please think before you post unkind comments.
    Yours, Prissy Miggins
     
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    andyburton72 reacted to ossieram in The mighty fallen   
    No it shows that some forum members can't stand him and when one posts,  the rest jump in.
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    andyburton72 reacted to The_Sheriff in Warne Out Out   
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    andyburton72 reacted to Leicester Ram in Pro Warne   
    Sure this won’t be popular but I think Warne should have until Xmas to have us in the top six. I would call myself pro-stability rather than pro-Warne and I understand why so many of the fans have turned - we haven’t improved as quickly as any of us would want and we’re currently not good enough going forward.
    But I’d say he deserves longer to fix that than it looks like he’s going to get.
    My concern is that the fanbase seems to think that a change of manager could get us into the top two and speed up our promotion, I think that’s wrong - the top two is gone already imo and having another new manager coming in isn’t going to speed up our timeline. 
    How many times this past decade have we sacked a manager because we thought it would get us promotion quicker? Look where we are now. I think that the fanbases expectations have been damaged by that and we’re now turning on managers quicker than we should.
    If people are being real with themselves, how many of you are Warne out because you’re panicking that we’ll be in League One again next season? It’s short-termism. As much as Ipswich spent a few seasons more than they’d like in League One, they get promoted the right way and are reaping the benefits now.
    Sacking another manager early into the season isn’t doing things the right way. Said this before but the day after the Villa playoff final, we had a squad made up of seven managers different signings. Whereas in 13/14, McClaren inherited a unified, hungry dressing room all signed by one manager.
    Chopping and changing is what got us into this mess, we’ve just let a manager shape our squad and now we’re going to get rid of him before the halfway point of the season?
    I see a lot of people talking about the top two - I thought that was unlikely after the first five games, it was an overhauled squad which was still adding players who were going to be in the starting XI (Fornah, John-Jules, Nyambe). It didn’t look cohesive and I didn’t think we’d have a good enough start to put together an automatics push. So far, that looks like an accurate assessment. 
    Part of why I’ve had patience with Warne is that I think we were closer to starting from scratch than it looked on paper. I agree that the 5 at the back fiasco isn’t a good look but I don’t think the transition from this season to last season is as straightforward as some people make it out. That is partly Warne’s fault as he tried to change our system but I didn’t see many people on here this summer disagreeing with him switching to the back five/signing Sonny Bradley - it you were one of the five or so posters on here doing that, don’t quote this letting me know; I don’t give a toss
    However, I think there is now a legitimate argument as to whether he sees out the season as I don’t think we’ve improved as quickly as anyone would like after that slow start. I would have said he has until the end of the season a month back so I’ve now sped that up to an assessment at Xmas
    I’m personally disappointed with how quickly the fans have turned on Warne. Warne certainly deserves until Xmas to try to turn this around but the fans may drive him out; I don’t think that’s the sign of a healthy club, that decision should lie with Clowes and he shouldn’t be pressured into creating more turbulence at an already very turbulent club to satisfy the mob.
    I will always be anti-booing the team/manager, our role at games should be as supporters and I think booing/chanting at Warne is more akin to acting like a customer.
    And when people’s complaint is the football isn’t entertaining enough, you are definitely a customer rather than a supporter.
    I don’t buy into this idea that we need to see entertaining football but what we do need is effective football.
    My concern with Warne is I don’t think he knows how to get this team scoring 2+ goals per game regularly - as far as I’m concerned, the football can be as ugly as a sunburnt Susan Boyle as long as we’re scoring goals and winning games.
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    andyburton72 reacted to TuffLuff in Pro Warne   
    I’m still pro-Warne, as much as I was at the start of the season. I think the players as a collective have a lot to answer for, and I don’t mean it as they aren’t trying or good enough, I just find them characterless and especially the ones Rosenior signed up. I think there’s a group of players there who have obviously not been resigned by other clubs because they were decent squad players but don’t consistently put in enough good dominating performances over a season. Ultimately I would put the likes of Bird and Sibley in a similar boat. Like last season, how much did we rely on McGoldricks goals? Yes, Warne has had a couple of transfer windows but they are players who are also taking up his budget and are difficult to shift. I said a few weeks ago but I’m reminded of the early Clough years in that he has players he needs shift but can’t until contracts run out, I still think that’s the case and if Clowes gets rid of Warne now I doubt we’d see a quick fix (and even if there was I’m not convinced we are in a position to compete in the championship just yet).
    Thats not to say Warne hasn’t made mistakes, he had and continues to do so. The biggest was making Hourihane captain and the process he proudly told everyone about. I don’t think it helped the mentality and gave the players too much power in that moment when he’d presumably lined up the captaincy for Sonny Bradley. When I saw the video of Hourihane with the fans, I get the impression he’s I’m essentially saying ‘it’s not our fault’ as players and it didn’t fill me with confidence as a captain that the players fully behind what Warne is trying to do. It’s a lot to take from that video after a loss, but I’m just going on his body language and what he’s saying. I don’t think it’s a good look
    I think he needed to bring Bradley into his 11 before now, which is a difficult decision due to the form of the defence but I think he needed his players with a fresh mentality in his 11. I don’t think he’s put enough of his stamp onto the squad just yet. Some of that has been because of the injuries to Ward and Elder as well, but I think the big thing is he’s missing is his leader on the pitch. Do we have anyone who’s really pointing fingers, getting others riled up or wanting to win? I don’t see it at the minute and I haven’t for a good while. 
    It’s ultimately the mentality of the players to me, and Warne has to take the brunt of that. Tomorrow is huge for Warne’s future and I’ll be really interested to see what team he puts out, but I hope he is willing to have a bit of a reset rather than this wishy washy approach of having his style of play but having a formation that is trying to keep everyone happy. I think it’s time for Warne to set out a side and formation that he wants to work and bypass the players it doesn’t suit
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    andyburton72 reacted to G STAR RAM in Warne Out Out   
    It will carry on just the same as it has for the last 40 years, regardless of division or results.
    We've had many ups and downs during that period and I assume we will continue to have in the future.
    I've just started taking my kids and I'm actually quite happy they are starting out watching us in the third tier (as I did) as in my opinion it makes you enjoy the highs, which will inevitably come in time, even more.
    Its sad to see how quickly fans have turned on Warne and it appears are starting to turn on Clowes. I certainly wouldn't want them lot in the trenches with me.
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    andyburton72 reacted to Topram in Anyone else had enough?   
    Properly get pelters for this as 80% seem to have made their mind up over Warne, but anyone else just had enough with the constant negativity towards the players and staff? It’s relentless.
    Even after last nights win I’m seeing people try and twist it negatively, overall last night we played faster tempo had chances and won end off, so why the negativity?
    Warnes come out and said last night about blocking outside noise out, really think knocking them will help? It’ll only make it worse, 5 in 11 for Collins decent return, what’s booing him and giving him stick going to do? Why can’t we get behind them? We’re in league 1 we won’t have world beaters that will do everything so perfectly. 
     
    1 defeat in 10 due to some terrible refereeing it’s not anywhere near as bad as people are making out, it’s as if we’ve won 1 in 10.
    I can be as negative as anyone and as annoyed as anyone when we drop points etc but it’s the bigger picture move on we go again, It’s not an easy league like people expect, Sunderland sheff united Ipswich Bolton etc all got stuck for time, and probably only Bolton started in a worse rebuild situation as us… 
    it’s absolutely draining all the constant ‘get him gone’ ‘whose next’ ‘he’s just a P.E teacher’ I’ve missed 1 away game and 1 home and it’s honestly making me not want to go, Blackpool people singing ‘warne your football is sh*t’ then 5 minutes later singing his name, honestly think if people stop over reacting and seemingly wanting Warne to fail we could get out of this league this year. Rant over roll on the draining stick that’ll come…
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    andyburton72 reacted to Foreveram in Derby v Notts County (A) Match Thread   
    No, we had over 3,100 fans that went to see us win at a local rivals ground, we won, sorry to disappoint you.
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    andyburton72 reacted to Foreveram in Derby v Notts County (A) Match Thread   
    Well I was at the game last night but after reading through the match day thread I had to check the result to confirm that we did actually win.
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    andyburton72 reacted to MadAmster in James Collins   
    Some fans really are desperate to prove their point. Over on FB, a chap posted a couple of seconds of video from last night to "prove" how crap Collo is. In the video, he's central inside the 6 yard box and the pass goes behind him, he manages to reach back with his left foot but, obviously, can't get it on target. This is proof, said the poster, of how crap Collo is. 
    Half a second later the ball is in the air around the right hand post, gets nodded back across goal by, possibly, Bird (?), Collo executes a decent overhead kick, keeper sticks out a hand and knocks it away... straight to Sibs' left foot and he gets his, and our, 2nd of the night.
    How the bloke took no more from what happened than "Collo is crap" is a total mystery.
    Do I think Collo works hard, does his defensive duties well and has a great work rate? Yes.
    Do I think his control could be better, he should foul less, jump more often for high balls and spend more time in the opposition box than he does? Yes.
    Do I think he's possibly the best player we currently have for the wat PW wants us to play? Yes.
    He's not Coldplay. He doesn't have the hold up game CM has. He does have the likes of NML, Bird, Barks, Sibs who could do the "running on to the ball" that the likes of Hughes, Hendrick and Bryson did when playing together with CM. Unfortunately Collo isn't a CM playalike. Of the #9s we have, I think he's better in the role, as required by PW, than Wash or Waggy. I've not seen enough of Dajaune Brown to make a call on him.
    Does Collo frustrate? Yes. However, IMO, and some will disagree and that's fine, he's the best we have for the role PW wants his #9 to play.
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    andyburton72 reacted to G STAR RAM in Derby v Cheltenham (A) Match Thread   
    I cant speak for them I'm afraid.
    Personally, I see last season as a team where he did not have his own players in. Think we should have made the play offs but lost out on the last day so not a major disaster.
    This season, due to injuries, I don't think he's been able to put out his strongest line up. We're currently on a 6 match unbeaten run and will be in the play off positions and 7 points off top spot if we win our game in hand.
    I see very little point in bringing in a new manager at this point.
    Not really enjoying the football but think Warne will get us promoted this season.
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    andyburton72 reacted to DerbyAleMan in Derby v Blackpool (A) Match Thread   
    Warne has deffo improved our defence this season with the additions of Nelson and Nyambe, both looked excellent again tonight, Nelson is a man mountain of a man, and is looking a great partner for Cashin , also Nyambe looks solid ,is quick and reads the game so well, they say all good managers build from the back, and our defence is looking very good this season, best in the division for me. 
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    andyburton72 reacted to David in Derby v Blackpool (A) Match Thread   
    I don't mind it to be honest, same with players that get dogs abuse and cup their ears when they score.
    Sounds like frustration with the stick he's been getting across social media which will no doubt be fed back to him.
    He's a heart on his sleeve kinda guy, just giving some back.
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    andyburton72 reacted to Mick Brolly in Derby v Blackpool (A) Match Thread   
    Can't you just enjoy the win instead of bitching about the manager 
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    andyburton72 reacted to Mick Brolly in Derby v Blackpool (A) Match Thread   
    Right though isn't he 
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    andyburton72 reacted to WystonRam in Can anyone actually name a single improvement Warne has done since arriving?   
    Thought i would bump this.
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    andyburton72 reacted to MarsdenRam in Derby v Blackpool (A) Match Thread   
    Where's your bloody poll now haters?
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    andyburton72 reacted to jono in Derby v Blackpool (A) Match Thread   
    To point out that there are some pathetic doomsayers amongst us. Those who predict disaster at every turn and seem to enjoy doing it.
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    andyburton72 reacted to YouRams in Derby v Blackpool (A) Match Thread   
    You saw what it means to him and the lads and how close they all are at the fulltime whistle, I for one am glad we're sticking with him, and with a fully fit squad the football will keep on improving.
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    andyburton72 reacted to Simmo’s left foot in Derby v Blackpool (A) Match Thread   
    Good all round performance. Nice one. That shut the wingers, moaners and boo boys up.
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    andyburton72 reacted to Jimbo Ram in Derby v Blackpool (A) Match Thread   
    Warney in 🕺🥳🥂🪅
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    andyburton72 reacted to cstand in Derby v Blackpool (A) Match Thread   
    Great result, Corey Smith MOTM for me brilliant performance. 
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    andyburton72 reacted to Eatonram in Derby v Blackpool (A) Match Thread   
    Well a few of the pre match whining hysterics look a bit stupid again 
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    andyburton72 reacted to Loughborough Ram in Derby v Blackpool (A) Match Thread   
    Surely there's nothing to moan about tonight.
    Oh hang on, there's always Paul Warne, maybe he stood in the wrong place when making some of the substitutions, or had a really ugly water bottle.
    God Paul Warne, eh, can't understand how he keeps his job
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