DC-1975 reacted to angieram in Keogh Sacked
I have felt too emotional about the whole situation to offer my view up to now.
My heart is broken for a good captain and warrior for DCFC. To be sacked from the club you have given 100% to on the pitch over seven gruelling seasons must be humiliating and make you feel dreadful.
However, my head now questions how much of Keogh's passion for Derby is real. The least favourable offer he turned down from the club, if accurate, of £3,000 per week, is more than the prime minister's salary and only slightly less than the chief police constable of Derbyshire who has responsibility for a huge budget and staff team who do a tremendously difficult job every day at work.
He was also being offered free state of the art rehabilitation facilities, could start to work on his coaching badges if he wished and presumably would also be free to supplement his income with appearances on Sky ("like you say") or other options if that is his choice. Most importantly in all this he was being offered an opportunity to retain his status as a good servant of the club and the adoration and support of the fans.
He has chosen to reject all this for what? More money. Not much of a swap in my opinion.
His action will now by actively costing the club too as they will have been taking expensive legal advice and will have to continue to do so over the appeal and possible tribunal.
People are wondering why no official statement from Derby. I wonder whether the 'statement' we are reading is actually the dismissal letter to Keogh as the wording in it, including the 14 days' appeal time, reads like a letter from HR.
I don't know if I am being overly supportive of my club, but the whole way this story has broken makes me think it has come from Keogh's side. He clearly feels very aggrieved about the way he is being treated.
I also think this will have been going back and forward for some time, that this is just the latest play from the club and that they might have been hoping for a response from Keogh that would have allowed him a successful appeal, rather than a messy, public and prolonged visit to an industrial tribunal.
All this is huge speculation on my part, for which I hold my hands up. It is coloured by my huge love for our club, rather than for any individual player, no matter how good a servant he has been to DCFC.
What I do know is that while Keogh still has my sympathy, he's lost my respect.
DC-1975 reacted to WilkoRam in Keogh Sacked
30 pages of conjecture. People have become experts on misconduct proceedings, law, and clearly have access to the collision report as well as any internal fact finding the club conducted because there’s so much stated on here about what should and shouldn’t have happened.
it’s bound to happen as we know he’s been sacked and we have only a few “club statement” lines. Therefore as fans we want/need to discuss it but a lot of people are coming up with verdicts with less information than the club has and chastising the club for what has happened. Hopefully in 14 days time we will hear more and can take a better standpoint on the situation. Until then I’ll reserve judgement.
It’s like a conversation I had with my brother in law when the drink drive story came out. He called them a disgrace and that they should be sacked, he’s a spurs fan. I asked him if Lloris was sacked? He laughed and said he was barely drunk and these two we next level drunk and are a lot worse. After the court hearing it transpires that neither of them blew near Lloris’s reading which was over twice the limit. Point is people judge from bits of information when they should wait for more facts.
DC-1975 reacted to jono in Investment Close
So right. I’m sure he’ll play ok and add some cheer to some dark nights but it’s what he brings in terms of aura. Come on, you’re Jayden Bogle or Jason Knight ? lining up with England’s highest goal scorer, and multiple medal winner. no way they aren’t going to strut their stuff, bust guts ... huge and exciting challenge for youngsters.
this is off topic but he is an archetypal street footballer - I think the championship might just suit his battling qualities down to the ground, despite aging legs.
DC-1975 reacted to Ramslad1992 in New parents
So whilst I have my lovely step daughter who I met when she was 2, me and my fiancé have recently found out we are expecting. Whilst I’ve learnt on the job per say and feel I’ve mastered toddlers I was wondering if anyone has any hints/tips when it comes to Babies that they’d be willing to share? The baby book says to look for ‘online dad forums’ but as they’re going to be a future ram I’d rather trust you lot! 🐏
thanks in advance!
DC-1975 reacted to DarkFruitsRam7 in Ronnie Ronalde's Story
Just thought I'd post this here for anyone interested. It's @ronnieronalde's Brian Clough story, written by a journalist working for The Athletic. The forum even gets a little mention. You can get a free 7-day trial that can be cancelled anytime if you don't fancy subscribing.
DC-1975 reacted to Paul71 in Depression, anxiety, stress and other related issues
Thanks everyone for the comments. I do feel better, to be honest I was so tired, coming off the meds, i had a sickness bug that still getting over. Think my head just imploded.
@David please cancel my request if possible to delete my account.
DC-1975 reacted to Paul71 in Depression, anxiety, stress and other related issues
You rarely hear about what people go through when they come off their medication. I recently came off mine.
While I am far from being in a bad place it has been a challenge. My moods have been up and down, more irritable and certainly some physical symptoms such as sickness, dizziness. I expected to be weened off for a while but it was pretty much an immediate stop which surprised me.
I really hope this is an effect of coming off the meds rather than how its going to be. I am better than i used to be, i practice my count to 10 when i get annoyed or someone says something and i try not to react.
One place i don't tend to take that approach is online. DCFCFans is really the only place I post, I don't bother with Facebook or Twitter. Of late I have found posting here a bit of a challenge too, I know its ridiculous as its just an online forum but I find myself being affected by what people say, and the things i can post at times.
Its stupid the times you have got into a 'discussion' with someone or something has been said to you that I can lie awake at night spinning it round in my head. I think the issue with a text response is it can be misinterpreted so easily , I am sure no one sets out to upset anyone but it does happen, I know i don't intend to but can think of numerous occasions where something I have said can be taken that way.
Last night was one of those for me, I said something to someone which was no way intended to be a slight on them but it was taken that way and i can see why. And without going into it the recent events have affected my love for the club, i will still attend games as the time i spend with my Dad is important to me, i hope my love has returned by the time renewal time comes up.
I have been thinking I need to leave this alone for a while, I have asked @David to remove my account which he is doing although I have a cool down period in case i change my mind which i might do i dont know.
For now I am going to log out on all my devices, I will still access the site to read whats going on but as a 'Lurker' only.
I wish I was and hope to have the calm head and sensible approach that @angieram has, hopefully I will one day soon.
Anyway I am just another poster amongst hundreds/thousands, as I said I will keep an eye on things especially @Van Cone De Head and @Mrs Cone as i genuinely have an interest in how Joel is getting on.
Anyway Au Revoir.....and good luck!
DC-1975 reacted to Van Cone De Head in Depression, anxiety, stress and other related issues
Please don’t remove your account mate.
Just have a break if you need it.
DC-1975 reacted to Dean (hick) Saunders in What’s your priority to strengthen the side?
Someone equivalent to Patrick Viera (powerful, pacy midfielder).
I know he was world class and equivalents would not play champ level, it it defines better the kind of player.
PS. New GK essential as well.
I think we have promising wingers in academy so don’t want to block pathway by any perm signings in this position. Loan if we have to.
DC-1975 reacted to uttoxram75 in Lawrence and Bennett Convicted of drink driving
There's no exact rule book on this particular sequence of events.
A club may have to deal with a single drink driving incident or a group behaving badly, getting drunk in public etc, gambling, sex related issues, drug use, whatever other problems occur when 20 young (ish) men are working together in such a closed environment as professional football, but rarely has something like this happened on a bloody Tuesday night in Quarndon!
So far, Derby have imo, handled it with the utmost class and honesty.
A fairly short but strong condemnation of the incident but an awareness that all the facts may not be known yet.
Its uncharted territory and whatever happens there will be many who gloat at our situation but as long as Mel Morris and Phillip Cocu continue to act with the utmost integrity and statesmanship they have shown so far, we should let the Courts deal with it, then let the Club deal with it internally and in the meantime get behind our football team and do the only thing we can do to help us get through this.
Some, like me, are old enough to remember the trials and tribulations we've been through at the Baseball Ground like the Clough and Taylor sackings, relegation to Division 3, being about 10 minutes from going out of business, Maxwell, The 3 Amigos, and the outright unbridled joy of winning the League, the Arthur Cox and Jim Smith years and for the younger fans, the recent ups and downs at our new home on the old railway works of Chaddesden sidings. Its been frustrating and brilliant in equal measures since 2013. Thats what it will always be like being a Derby fan.
We've been through worse poo than this and come out of it with our heads held high.
I hope that all in the South Stand, East, West and North, will join me in giving the loudest rendition of WE ARE Derby the stadium has ever heard, not for the players who've let us down, but for Mel and Phil and the ones who only want to give their best for Derby County Football Club.
And for us, for the lads and lasses who turn up week after week, home and away, for us to have that feeling of belonging, that feeling of pride that we support and love our football club, through thick and thin.
Players, Managers and owners come and go, we don't, we're here to stay.
DC-1975 reacted to TomBustler1884 in Lawrence and Bennett Convicted of drink driving
So I was at the Derby County Community Trust Awards Evening last night. If ever there was an event to restore faith in DCFC and the positive impact football can have on this city it was that one.
Mel, Stephen Pearce and Curtis Davies were there. I spoke to Mel and he just seemed really, really disappointed. Hes a passionate guy and I thought he would be fuming, but I think hes just gutted that hes been let down.
From his perspective, it's happened now, the club will deal with it and move on, but we both agreed that perhaps now everyone can give Cocu time and space to restart this team.
He also said a few words at the start, apologising to everyone for the last 48 hrs, saying that "we have let you down". It was quite emotional to be honest, he seemed a bit choked up.
I didnt speak to Curtis, what's he going to say, didnt think it was fair.
If you're feeling low about DCFC, get yourself on the DCCT website. This club makes a huge difference to people's lives.
DC-1975 reacted to Carnero in England Cricket summer 2019
They say the best 2 young openers in the country are Dominic Sibley & Zak Crawley.
I'd like to see us pick both, one to open with Burns and the other to bat 3.
Root 4, Stokes 5, Pope 6, Bairstow 7.
At least that way we're developing 3 players under the age of 23 in Sibley, Crawley & Pope rather than a 32 year old Denly.
Leave Roy & Buttler to concentrate on pyjamas cricket.
DC-1975 reacted to Mostyn6 in Children’s TV
grew up in the 80s. so it was:-
Happy Days, Batman and Green Hornet in the morning on Good Morning Britain
After school was:-
Dogtanian, Little Green Man, Bananaman, SuperTed, He Man, She-Ra, Chocky, Grange Hill, Newsround, Grotbags (Rod and Emu), Rainbow, Sooty and Sweep Show, Art Attack, Tony Hart (Morph), Number 73, Press Gang, Fireball XL5, Star Fleet, Danger Mouse, T Bag (had Mi Jule in it), Inspector Gadget (cartoon), Byker Grove.
DC-1975 reacted to Steve Bloomer's Washing in SBW Meets: Paulo Wanchope
Morning all, something for the (international) weekend:
Derby County's cult hero Costa Rican joined us for a nostalgic chat in our latest interview special. Wanchope, who scored 28 Rams goals in all competitions, explained how he nearly became a pro basketball player before coming to England, his fiery relationship with Jim Smith, his favourite Derby teammate, and ofcourse *that* Old Trafford debut goal.
DC-1975 reacted to sage in Derbyshire...National Cricket Champions
My foster lad plays for Derbyshire in Disability Cricket (mixture of physical and learning difficulties) and yesterday they beat Yorkshire in the national final. The teams ages range from 18 to 72.
Chasing 194 in 35 overs they were 20 for 4 but recovered to win by 4 wickets with 2 overs to spare. To add to the accomplishment the lad who was verbally abused on camera at Nottm train station last year by a Forest idiot scored 43 not out off around 36 balls to win us the game.
Sometimes sport comes good in the end.
DC-1975 reacted to angieram in v WBA (H) Match Thread
There's quite a lot of negativity today. Strangely, I thought we were a bit better. It helped that WBA had come to give it a go, helped create a fairly exciting match and the backing from our fans was much louder today.
I was pleased to see the inclusion of two more youngsters as they brought effort and legs to the team. Although initially disappointed to see Huddlestone in there again I thought he had a better game, as did Dowell in patches but I wish he'd be there for the full 90 minutes - hopefully that will come. My pick of the three midfielders would be Knight - he's going to be a star for us.
Waghorn was much more involved in the game on the right. I know about his penalties but he won the first one by driving in to the area (Lawrence please take note! ) and I thought he interacted well with Lowe.
Watching Marriott today you can see the thankless task that any centre forward has in our system but I thought he worked really hard and am pleased he lasted 70 minutes. I said when Bennett replaced him, watch the one golden chance fall to his replacement and it did. Jack would have buried that for the win.
We are creating so few chances now we do need to be taking them.
I've left Lowe until last because he deserves most praise. Such an improvement since last season. Playing on the wrong side he still has the composure on the ball and now mostly in the tackle well beyond his years. So sad that the penalty was given against him (wrongly as it happened ) but I trust him to learn from that.
When Bogle and Holmes are back we should be more of a threat - looking forward to it.
DC-1975 reacted to Steve Bloomer's Washing in SBW podcast, Ep 58: Wayne's World
Morning, latest SBW podcast below - cheers!
Derby County are off and running for the 19/20 campaign, as Chris, Tom and Anton look back on the Rams' unbeaten start against Huddersfield and Swansea. There's also analysis of Derby's new signing, Wayne Rooney (!), as we ask where he'll fit into the side and chat to MLS reporter Steven Goff from the Washington Post.
DC-1975 reacted to TuffLuff in Four new signings before the window closes
I think if you stop believing the football experts and the ITKers then bringing in two squad players is a sensible option.
Been a good window, we have seemingly got in a top defender, a highly rated DM, competition in midfield (a strong Scottish Cm and a promotion winner) and Wayne BLOODY Rooney! This is added to an already very good squad and youth set up.
Stop overthinking and enjoy the ride!