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    BucksRam got a reaction from jono in Keogh Sacked   
    Really don't get this - he goes out, he gets hammered, gets into a car with another hammered player, and gets injured such that he can't play for the rest of the season.  Ignored Derby's offer of transport.  Ignored all common sense.  All his fault.  My only thought here is there must not have been some conduct style clause in his contract that Derby could enforce to sack him, hence the compensation award.  If that's true someone needs shooting.  If I turned up for work drunk, looked at p0rn or several other such misdemeanours then I'd be sacked, with no recompense.  World's gone mad. 
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    BucksRam got a reaction from ramit in mo55y's Prediction League updates, 2020/21 season.   
    Thanks @mozza for running this.  Great sidebar to the stresses of the actual league. Sure I'd have bettered 21 points if I hadn't been so pig-headed in my general refusal to predict a Derby loss. On to next season. 
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    BucksRam got a reaction from EtoileSportiveDeDerby in EFL appeal   
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    BucksRam got a reaction from Rammy03 in Keogh Sacked   
    Really don't get this - he goes out, he gets hammered, gets into a car with another hammered player, and gets injured such that he can't play for the rest of the season.  Ignored Derby's offer of transport.  Ignored all common sense.  All his fault.  My only thought here is there must not have been some conduct style clause in his contract that Derby could enforce to sack him, hence the compensation award.  If that's true someone needs shooting.  If I turned up for work drunk, looked at p0rn or several other such misdemeanours then I'd be sacked, with no recompense.  World's gone mad. 
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    BucksRam got a reaction from Ken Tram in EFL appeal   
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    BucksRam got a reaction from Gee SCREAMER !! in Keogh Sacked   
    Really don't get this - he goes out, he gets hammered, gets into a car with another hammered player, and gets injured such that he can't play for the rest of the season.  Ignored Derby's offer of transport.  Ignored all common sense.  All his fault.  My only thought here is there must not have been some conduct style clause in his contract that Derby could enforce to sack him, hence the compensation award.  If that's true someone needs shooting.  If I turned up for work drunk, looked at p0rn or several other such misdemeanours then I'd be sacked, with no recompense.  World's gone mad. 
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    BucksRam got a reaction from archram in mo55y's Prediction League updates, 2020/21 season.   
    Thanks @mozza for running this.  Great sidebar to the stresses of the actual league. Sure I'd have bettered 21 points if I hadn't been so pig-headed in my general refusal to predict a Derby loss. On to next season. 
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    BucksRam got a reaction from Coconut in Keogh Sacked   
    Yeah get that - all employees should be treated fairly, but not necessarily the same IF their contracts and/or roles (and therefore responsibilities) are different.  Clearly there's stuff we don't know but there must have been some reason Derby felt obliged to sack him and not Lawrence and Bennett. That said, the fact he's vindicated shows whatever rationale Derby used was wrong.  They cocked up (again).  Take the hit, move on. 
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    BucksRam got a reaction from Angry Ram in Keogh Sacked   
    Yeah, I get you.  My point, not well made (I'm multi-tasking whilst working) was that he really ought have had something in his contract that would give Derby the right to sack him.  The fact he's won says to me Derby were in the wrong in some way.  Like you allude, we've not had a good track record. 
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    BucksRam got a reaction from Arsene Titman in EFL appeal   
    Feel this needs a separate thread.  Ar-mond or All-mond anyone? Pri-vacy or Prai-vacy?  I could go (rant) on. Too many Americanisms in our language 😃
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    BucksRam reacted to JfR in EFL appeal   
    In Birmingham's case, they broke the P&S rules by overspending, and admitted straight away to having knowingly done so. It was a rule break that they knowingly made, but thought the punishment was worth taking. Seeing as they've not been relegated since, it seems to have been the smart call on their part.
    In Wednesday's case, the biggest factor in their punishment was the timeline that decisions were made by the club. Effectively, at the time of the end of the financial window, the club believed that they had broken the spending rules. The stadium sale was actioned after the window had closed, and retroactively applied to the window. Their punishment was applied because the stadium sale was made to "undo" an overspend that they had already anticipated. I believe their panel found that they had been misinformed by the EFL, but it was ultimately irrelevant, because had the EFL informed them correctly prior to the stadium sale, it wouldn't have made a difference: Wednesday would have already have made the financial breach, and they would not have been able to have taken alternative measures to correct this. This resulted in the club having no punishment for misconduct, solely for the overspend.
    If it is the case that the original panel still believes the club acted honestly and in good faith, I would be very surprised to see a particularly substantial punishment handed down by them.
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    BucksRam got a reaction from Steve How Hard? in EFL appeal   
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    BucksRam got a reaction from EranioIsGod in Keogh Sacked   
    Really don't get this - he goes out, he gets hammered, gets into a car with another hammered player, and gets injured such that he can't play for the rest of the season.  Ignored Derby's offer of transport.  Ignored all common sense.  All his fault.  My only thought here is there must not have been some conduct style clause in his contract that Derby could enforce to sack him, hence the compensation award.  If that's true someone needs shooting.  If I turned up for work drunk, looked at p0rn or several other such misdemeanours then I'd be sacked, with no recompense.  World's gone mad. 
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    BucksRam got a reaction from Kathcairns in EFL appeal   
    This!  There's not much I get on my soap box about but this is the one that lights my touch paper.  Relegated teams not only often come down with the core of their PL squad still intact, but then get given millions to aid their cause. It's no wonder they'll invariably either get promoted straight away (aka Norwich / Watford) or at least be fighting for the play offs (aka Bournemouth / Swansea).  Whilst the rest of the clubs, Derby in this case break the bank to try and compete.  
    By regaining immediate promotion the PL recoup something like £83 million for Norwich and Watford.  Add to that what Bournemouth / Swansea would have got and you're looking at over £100 million.  I know the EFL are supposedly looking to ask for this "back" but it's not the policy so is unlikely to wash.  Distributing that money across the EFL clubs instead of back into the already overflowing PL coffers would provide a huge lifeline for many clubs.  Whilst I know it's money that originates from the PL pot, so they'd see it as just keeping "what's ours", as it would have been paid into the EFL, why not still do so - it'd be a massive step in helping to keep the 69? EFL clubs afloat.  Grrrrr
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    BucksRam got a reaction from I am Ram in EFL appeal   
    This!  There's not much I get on my soap box about but this is the one that lights my touch paper.  Relegated teams not only often come down with the core of their PL squad still intact, but then get given millions to aid their cause. It's no wonder they'll invariably either get promoted straight away (aka Norwich / Watford) or at least be fighting for the play offs (aka Bournemouth / Swansea).  Whilst the rest of the clubs, Derby in this case break the bank to try and compete.  
    By regaining immediate promotion the PL recoup something like £83 million for Norwich and Watford.  Add to that what Bournemouth / Swansea would have got and you're looking at over £100 million.  I know the EFL are supposedly looking to ask for this "back" but it's not the policy so is unlikely to wash.  Distributing that money across the EFL clubs instead of back into the already overflowing PL coffers would provide a huge lifeline for many clubs.  Whilst I know it's money that originates from the PL pot, so they'd see it as just keeping "what's ours", as it would have been paid into the EFL, why not still do so - it'd be a massive step in helping to keep the 69? EFL clubs afloat.  Grrrrr
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    BucksRam got a reaction from angieram in EFL appeal   
    This!  There's not much I get on my soap box about but this is the one that lights my touch paper.  Relegated teams not only often come down with the core of their PL squad still intact, but then get given millions to aid their cause. It's no wonder they'll invariably either get promoted straight away (aka Norwich / Watford) or at least be fighting for the play offs (aka Bournemouth / Swansea).  Whilst the rest of the clubs, Derby in this case break the bank to try and compete.  
    By regaining immediate promotion the PL recoup something like £83 million for Norwich and Watford.  Add to that what Bournemouth / Swansea would have got and you're looking at over £100 million.  I know the EFL are supposedly looking to ask for this "back" but it's not the policy so is unlikely to wash.  Distributing that money across the EFL clubs instead of back into the already overflowing PL coffers would provide a huge lifeline for many clubs.  Whilst I know it's money that originates from the PL pot, so they'd see it as just keeping "what's ours", as it would have been paid into the EFL, why not still do so - it'd be a massive step in helping to keep the 69? EFL clubs afloat.  Grrrrr
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    BucksRam got a reaction from Andicis in EFL appeal   
    This!  There's not much I get on my soap box about but this is the one that lights my touch paper.  Relegated teams not only often come down with the core of their PL squad still intact, but then get given millions to aid their cause. It's no wonder they'll invariably either get promoted straight away (aka Norwich / Watford) or at least be fighting for the play offs (aka Bournemouth / Swansea).  Whilst the rest of the clubs, Derby in this case break the bank to try and compete.  
    By regaining immediate promotion the PL recoup something like £83 million for Norwich and Watford.  Add to that what Bournemouth / Swansea would have got and you're looking at over £100 million.  I know the EFL are supposedly looking to ask for this "back" but it's not the policy so is unlikely to wash.  Distributing that money across the EFL clubs instead of back into the already overflowing PL coffers would provide a huge lifeline for many clubs.  Whilst I know it's money that originates from the PL pot, so they'd see it as just keeping "what's ours", as it would have been paid into the EFL, why not still do so - it'd be a massive step in helping to keep the 69? EFL clubs afloat.  Grrrrr
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    BucksRam got a reaction from cstand in EFL appeal   
    This!  There's not much I get on my soap box about but this is the one that lights my touch paper.  Relegated teams not only often come down with the core of their PL squad still intact, but then get given millions to aid their cause. It's no wonder they'll invariably either get promoted straight away (aka Norwich / Watford) or at least be fighting for the play offs (aka Bournemouth / Swansea).  Whilst the rest of the clubs, Derby in this case break the bank to try and compete.  
    By regaining immediate promotion the PL recoup something like £83 million for Norwich and Watford.  Add to that what Bournemouth / Swansea would have got and you're looking at over £100 million.  I know the EFL are supposedly looking to ask for this "back" but it's not the policy so is unlikely to wash.  Distributing that money across the EFL clubs instead of back into the already overflowing PL coffers would provide a huge lifeline for many clubs.  Whilst I know it's money that originates from the PL pot, so they'd see it as just keeping "what's ours", as it would have been paid into the EFL, why not still do so - it'd be a massive step in helping to keep the 69? EFL clubs afloat.  Grrrrr
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    BucksRam got a reaction from Deej in EFL appeal   
    This!  There's not much I get on my soap box about but this is the one that lights my touch paper.  Relegated teams not only often come down with the core of their PL squad still intact, but then get given millions to aid their cause. It's no wonder they'll invariably either get promoted straight away (aka Norwich / Watford) or at least be fighting for the play offs (aka Bournemouth / Swansea).  Whilst the rest of the clubs, Derby in this case break the bank to try and compete.  
    By regaining immediate promotion the PL recoup something like £83 million for Norwich and Watford.  Add to that what Bournemouth / Swansea would have got and you're looking at over £100 million.  I know the EFL are supposedly looking to ask for this "back" but it's not the policy so is unlikely to wash.  Distributing that money across the EFL clubs instead of back into the already overflowing PL coffers would provide a huge lifeline for many clubs.  Whilst I know it's money that originates from the PL pot, so they'd see it as just keeping "what's ours", as it would have been paid into the EFL, why not still do so - it'd be a massive step in helping to keep the 69? EFL clubs afloat.  Grrrrr
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    BucksRam got a reaction from Mick Brolly in EFL appeal   
    This!  There's not much I get on my soap box about but this is the one that lights my touch paper.  Relegated teams not only often come down with the core of their PL squad still intact, but then get given millions to aid their cause. It's no wonder they'll invariably either get promoted straight away (aka Norwich / Watford) or at least be fighting for the play offs (aka Bournemouth / Swansea).  Whilst the rest of the clubs, Derby in this case break the bank to try and compete.  
    By regaining immediate promotion the PL recoup something like £83 million for Norwich and Watford.  Add to that what Bournemouth / Swansea would have got and you're looking at over £100 million.  I know the EFL are supposedly looking to ask for this "back" but it's not the policy so is unlikely to wash.  Distributing that money across the EFL clubs instead of back into the already overflowing PL coffers would provide a huge lifeline for many clubs.  Whilst I know it's money that originates from the PL pot, so they'd see it as just keeping "what's ours", as it would have been paid into the EFL, why not still do so - it'd be a massive step in helping to keep the 69? EFL clubs afloat.  Grrrrr
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    BucksRam got a reaction from Richard Dastard Lee in EFL appeal   
    This!  There's not much I get on my soap box about but this is the one that lights my touch paper.  Relegated teams not only often come down with the core of their PL squad still intact, but then get given millions to aid their cause. It's no wonder they'll invariably either get promoted straight away (aka Norwich / Watford) or at least be fighting for the play offs (aka Bournemouth / Swansea).  Whilst the rest of the clubs, Derby in this case break the bank to try and compete.  
    By regaining immediate promotion the PL recoup something like £83 million for Norwich and Watford.  Add to that what Bournemouth / Swansea would have got and you're looking at over £100 million.  I know the EFL are supposedly looking to ask for this "back" but it's not the policy so is unlikely to wash.  Distributing that money across the EFL clubs instead of back into the already overflowing PL coffers would provide a huge lifeline for many clubs.  Whilst I know it's money that originates from the PL pot, so they'd see it as just keeping "what's ours", as it would have been paid into the EFL, why not still do so - it'd be a massive step in helping to keep the 69? EFL clubs afloat.  Grrrrr
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    BucksRam got a reaction from Reggie Greenwood in EFL appeal   
    This!  There's not much I get on my soap box about but this is the one that lights my touch paper.  Relegated teams not only often come down with the core of their PL squad still intact, but then get given millions to aid their cause. It's no wonder they'll invariably either get promoted straight away (aka Norwich / Watford) or at least be fighting for the play offs (aka Bournemouth / Swansea).  Whilst the rest of the clubs, Derby in this case break the bank to try and compete.  
    By regaining immediate promotion the PL recoup something like £83 million for Norwich and Watford.  Add to that what Bournemouth / Swansea would have got and you're looking at over £100 million.  I know the EFL are supposedly looking to ask for this "back" but it's not the policy so is unlikely to wash.  Distributing that money across the EFL clubs instead of back into the already overflowing PL coffers would provide a huge lifeline for many clubs.  Whilst I know it's money that originates from the PL pot, so they'd see it as just keeping "what's ours", as it would have been paid into the EFL, why not still do so - it'd be a massive step in helping to keep the 69? EFL clubs afloat.  Grrrrr
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    BucksRam reacted to Ghost of Clough in EFL appeal   
    A reminder of what the EFL are appealing...
    The second charge (amortisation) was split up into 5 particulars.

    1. The EFL withdraw the first particular,  so nothing to look into.
    2. This is not in contradiction to the financial standard FRS102
    3. As per the 2nd particular
    4. Unreliability in estimating a player's value does not mean the policy contradicts FRS102. 
    5. Inadequate disclosure is punishable. As it doesn't impact passing/failing P&S, it is impossible to receive a points penalty against this particular.
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    BucksRam got a reaction from Topram in EFL appeal   
    Just when I was starting to relax and look forward to the summer rebuild............
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    BucksRam got a reaction from Rammy03 in EFL appeal   
    Just when I was starting to relax and look forward to the summer rebuild............
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